Look at the DD214 posted on Pownetwork, The last name is all Caps as opposed to the rest of the name. The O also dosn't match any other typed capitol O's on the page. the rest of the letters are to fuzzy to tell. Maby the clerk was having a bad day and hit the 0 instead of O.
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Strider Knives, Game Over!
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The article in Tactical Knives states that the information was provided by directly interviewing Duane Dwyer. Many posts back I asked if someone could let me know if there was an issue of Tactical Knives in which the information provided in the article on Duane was retracted or corrected. No one came forward. So from what I can gather, it was Duane himself that made all the claims that were in that article.
I am neither Spark nor Bubba, but I will offer this conjecture:
I think what we are seeing here is the standard response of certain veteran groups who object to people making themselves out to be more than they are. I seriously suspect (but do not know) that this all started as a result of someone getting their knickers in a knot over Duane's supposedly false claims of sniperhood. Similarly, I suspect that the objective is almost certainly not the financial ruination of Strider Knives. The fact that certain anti-Strider partisans are crowing "we told you so" should not obscure the fact that this veterans' group believes that they have uncovered another fake.
So yes, I think it was a personal attack, but having nothing to do with his current profession. I suspect that his status as a knifemaker is secondary to the fact that he is relatively well-known. This type of publicity helps the anti-faker crowd with their mission, regardless of its merits as far as the knife industry goes.
I have to admit that I don't get too worked up over exaggerated claims of derring-do. It seems to be an integral part of human nature to want to embellish our past. My own military service was comprised of little that could be considered dangerous beyond consigning billions of U-235 atoms to their atomic deaths (i.e., I sat in a relatively air-conditioned control room and watched over the reactors on Enterprise). Nobody ever seems to want to make a false claim about being a Nuke.
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Uh, Yugoslavia didn't start breaking up until 1991. When does Duane claim to have left the military? There were no US Observers anywhere in the Balkans until 1991 at the earliest. Prior to that Yugoslavia and the Republics that were part of it were Communist countries.
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I am not aware of what is going on behind the scene but I am sure there is an agenda. There seems to be certain people who surface whenever one of the Strider guys is being flogged on one of the forums. There is always one or two that tell us that those that still have doubts have their heads up their butts and that they have all the facts BUT they cannot tell us just yet...DUH
We are told that they have all kinds of proof and we must take their words that [insert Duane or Mick's name here] is a wannabe phoney, period.
Why can't one of these guys just post all they know if what they know is the truth. In this country there are no legal ramifications if what's said/written is truthful.
Or maybe it's not a lawsuit they fear and worry about.....................
We are told that they have all kinds of proof and we must take their words that [insert Duane or Mick's name here] is a wannabe phoney, period.
Why can't one of these guys just post all they know if what they know is the truth. In this country there are no legal ramifications if what's said/written is truthful.
Or maybe it's not a lawsuit they fear and worry about.....................
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Probably the dreaded Ninja death touch that is most fearsome.
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I have followed this for a while and there have been to many comment buy the anti Strider ( aS) crowd to say the goal of this is not their business. One of the key players wives said something to the effect of" How will this affect your overseas business" and the title of this very tread is Strider Knives Game over". The aS types have made numerous comments like that over the years. The fact that they drag every person who has every stopped by the Strider booth into this shows its not just about Duane or Mick.
You can go on the POWnetwork and look up a guy named Tommy Taylor. You can look at the newspaper article and see how quickly his storey unraveled. The time line is like February to May and that is while waiting on his local agency. A bunch of knuckle draggers got that done in about four months with no help from anybody and you mean to tell me that a dark genius and a martial arts instructor/bodyguard cant get something done in going on 8 years. I will say it again, they got some good questions but the years of jealousy have ate them up enough that they just cant seem to get anything done. The huge post here that was deleted is an outstanding example. It was a big huge look at me look at me cry.
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Pardon. Mr. Strider formally admitted in court that his claims of combat and special ops experience were not accurate. This admission was consistent with his published military records.
This thread is about Mr. Dwyer. IF he is the Marine Poland whose record we have seen, he was not a sniper or combat vet of any sort UNLESS the record is fake OR his deeds and MOS are unrecorded on the record.
As for talk of suits for defamation (and consistent with your comment), in such a suit the burden of proving the falsity of the statements alleged to be defamatory is on the plaintiff -- the person claiming to have been defamed. So Mr. Dwyer would have to convince the jury that he was, in fact, a Marine sniper, combat vet, killer of multiple enemies of the U.S., and trainer of elite military units -- regardless of who made those claims.
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Well I must admit I didnt read through your whole post. I was rereading another part of the tread and just read your whole post.
I was not on SOCNET in 01 and even now I dont post there a bunch, but Sharky does post on the ArmRanger.com forum and I talk to him now and then on certain matters. So I got some questions sent his way about his take on this.
maybe you could design a knife for guys that sit in a/c'd rooms watching reactors on ships to carry.
we could market it as having been designed by an actual Nuke. that should draw the attention of all those Nukes sitting in the shadows waiting for someone to recognize that they, too, need a good knife.
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I canna' get more outta' 'em, Captain. They willna' take it!!
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You may want to let people know you are already posting on SOCNET and your post was edited by a MOD right off the bat. The mere mention of Lance Harris over there as you did almost got you banned instantly and got his name edited. I wouldn't bother with this but I believe you should at least be honest, maybe you guys "Horned Toad & Sharky" can get your stories straight in PMs before you post next time or does that imply conspiracy?
I already showed where Sharky was using Gary Lakis to prove people are the real deal, BEEN THERE, DONE THAT! It does seem to be a bizarre world they operate in or should I say moderate in? They are well known for very heavy moderation, deleting posts, chopping up threads to reflect whatever they want in order to prove they know it all, are the final answer on military questions. There is a undeniable connection between SOCNET and Lakis or should I say Gunny Lakis as Sharky liked to refer to him when he was the VP of the USMC Scout Sniper Association's and was getting VIP treatment as SOCNETs #1 verified sniper, but those threads are all deleted accept for the odd few and most likely will never be seen again by anyone.
By the way there are some good people on SOCNET, this is no disgrace for the users there as its a very large group of people, It just doesn't say much for the moderation or help prove they are the background experts they claim to be, more likely they are a close group of friends who don't want to admit when they are wrong so they edit and delete.
http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showthread.php?t=75137
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I'm left wondering who really has the agenda? My agenda is simple, get to the facts, the Who? What? Where? When? Why? If people are liars and use military fraud for financial gain they should be called on it. If you make claims and references in magazines, advertisements, and while drinking and you have people going all over the net claiming your Special Operations, or any number of high profile military specialties you should be able to back your shit up with verifiable DOD paperwork, not credentialed by other secret squirrels who tell others to go away if they ask the wrong questions.
The POW Network is the #1 resource on the internet for military frauds and phonies, anyone can contact them and dispute any of this but isn't that the point, the people in question have no comment, blah blah blah blah blah! Witchhunt, blah blah blah blah! Been There Done That, blah blah blah blah, hang out with people, blah blah blah!
If anyone has any valid documents to dispute anything thats been posted feel free to show everyone, I will be waiting, possibly for a very long time.
folks ususally lie about there background (military or otherwise) due to self esteem issues, or to try and advance there cause, whatever the cause may be.
the body armor issues lance speaks of imho are the issues mclung (mad dog knives) brought up about the new vests not performing as advertised on his forum tacticalforums.com, a few yrs. back IIRC, and i suppose mclung was in the right on that one (a clock which doesnt run is right 2X a day) but anyway i imagine thats what he is speaking of, mclung also has had issues with SKI for quite some time now, IIRC it all started about kerambits if ya can believe that lol (wow, am i in the know or what lol????).
somehow the fact that there are a lot of posers on the net doesnt suprise me.
i still dont know what to think about all this, "if it looks like a duck" does come to mind though.
like i have said before folks who lie/fabricate military exploits are the lowest scum imho, hell my dad was in italy in WW2 and i would wager he saw as much combat as anybody (88th inf div) and he rarely spoke of it other than about the few times they had fun times, its been my experience thats the way most real vets are, if someone is lieing here, shame on them, they really should consider getting some mental help with there issues imho.
still havent made up my mind on this issue 100%, but must say it dont look good, it doesnt help that i wonder what some folks agendas are on this matter.
i do think this whole thing is one helluva messy bunch of crap for the folks involved, imho anyway, and they should straighten things up ASAP if they can. if they cant?? i guess we'll see WTF if thats the case.
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And why should I tell everyone where I post on the internet. Before anyone takes what I said out of context. My main concern is not that they are looking at Duanes background but that if they do dont go trusting Lance and Kevin on anything they say. Are very own Spark knows what happens when you send a PM to Kevin. Happened in the last big thread, Kevin posted PMs all over the place about what they were talking about. So if Socnet wants to go digging great, but do it on their own. Same thing with the Tommy Taylor case, that get mentioned on tactical forums and Kevin is like" let me call POWNET" and he had what to do with that, nothing.
You also failed to mention that the thread on Duanes bio is still open and all they did was delete Lances bio.
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Just as a courtesy, please differentiate between myself, Kevin Schlossberg (Spark) and Kevin McClung (MadDog) - I haven't been posting private messages or emails, and don't want people to be confused as to who-is-who.
For that matter, don't trust me, or anyone else "just because" - VERIFY all information. Hard documentation from public & official records trumps any "trust me" or "I know this guy."
"My brother's sister's cousin's uncle's friend says he's good to go" is not a Class Date, or hard MOS or records from the NPRC. I haven't, and won't, ask anyone just to "take my word for it" on anything here; I'm not even going to speculate on things. Gather the facts, review the information, and make your own decision.
I don't understand this Body Armor tangent, honestly. What does that have to do with this? If nothing, then why is it being brought up? (In other words, stay on subject)
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Whats your point? Anybody can send a name to POW Network, (Maddog) Kevin is nobody special there and has nothing to do with who does or does not get listed as a phony. If your walking through the mall and some guy tries to sell you mop-n-glow and says he is a former Special Operations as part of the sales pitch you should check it out, trust but verify. This problem is going to get bigger and bigger with more Vets back home and looking for jobs to feed their kids.
Two guys want a job, one is a Combat Vet, one is not, who you going to hire? Now you find out the man is not a Combat Vet, who you gonna fire?
The problem here is people are taking it so personal, hey people lie, thats what people do sometimes, some people lie when there is no need to do it. If Buck Knives wants to advertise a knife made by former Special Operations personnel they damm sure will be checking DOD Paperwork in the future, this is the end of, "I saw them hanging out with BLAH BLAH BLAH! They are the real deal!" VERIFICATIONS!
Please remember that Gary Lakis himself at one time was who verified personnel over at SOCNET for Mick Strider and who knows how many other people. Gary Lakis was the man, now he is a known as a total fraud, The 66 million dollar phony! Maybe this will help some people remember something?
http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9480
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