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Strider PT. 30 disappointing minutes.
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Before you support Strider knives, read this....
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453852&highlight=strider
Personally, I don't support frauds who lie about their military service.
I also will not support anyone who tells a paying customer to "lick my sack loser".
Read this thread and check out post #84...
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367175&page=3
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453852&highlight=strider
Personally, I don't support frauds who lie about their military service.
I also will not support anyone who tells a paying customer to "lick my sack loser".
Read this thread and check out post #84...
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367175&page=3
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WOW, the guy sounds like a charming individual, why would anybody even want to buy anything from him after reading all that.
amazing
ivan
This is why all Strider threads go astray. There's always someone who wants to start a fight about something they had no part in. There may be three people altogther who were directly addressed. Anybody else who took it personally has to think it's true for them, too. Ok, if the shoe fits . . .
I responded to the OP by pointing out that - in my opinion, and as a SnG owner - the Strider operating philosophy is to sell to knowledgeable buyers who will use them on duty.
It's neither here nor there that inexperienced wannabee's buy them. They buy completely tricked out semi-auto M-4's to show off to their buddies, too. How many of them can justify the use of a adjustable stock? Do they own body armor and practice stacking in an entry team for their living? NO. But they buy stuff they are unqualified to use.
It's the American theme in life - adorn yourself with bling to show off a pretension of self worth.
As a older worker who's spent decades in retail sales, I learned long ago that the customer always thinks he's right. There are plenty of knife makers who cater to those with wallets thicker than their skin with pretty bologna cutters for $100 an inch. Strider does not presently cater to that crowd much. Those who may get their expectations of gratuitous service abused are well advised to go elsewhere. It's what I relish about the company. Should I ever benchmake knives, I would do the same.
Those who demand that a maker must obey their concept of fit and finish and cater to them without fail are not living in the real world. They were probably raised in a mall.
Strider doesn't have to do anything more than make great knives and sell them. Those who demand more aren't gonna get it, haven't been getting it for years, and never will get it. So, if there are more empty chip bags laying around the computer than empty magazines in your range bag, I'll expect another posting here.
I responded to the OP by pointing out that - in my opinion, and as a SnG owner - the Strider operating philosophy is to sell to knowledgeable buyers who will use them on duty.
It's neither here nor there that inexperienced wannabee's buy them. They buy completely tricked out semi-auto M-4's to show off to their buddies, too. How many of them can justify the use of a adjustable stock? Do they own body armor and practice stacking in an entry team for their living? NO. But they buy stuff they are unqualified to use.
It's the American theme in life - adorn yourself with bling to show off a pretension of self worth.
As a older worker who's spent decades in retail sales, I learned long ago that the customer always thinks he's right. There are plenty of knife makers who cater to those with wallets thicker than their skin with pretty bologna cutters for $100 an inch. Strider does not presently cater to that crowd much. Those who may get their expectations of gratuitous service abused are well advised to go elsewhere. It's what I relish about the company. Should I ever benchmake knives, I would do the same.
Those who demand that a maker must obey their concept of fit and finish and cater to them without fail are not living in the real world. They were probably raised in a mall.
Strider doesn't have to do anything more than make great knives and sell them. Those who demand more aren't gonna get it, haven't been getting it for years, and never will get it. So, if there are more empty chip bags laying around the computer than empty magazines in your range bag, I'll expect another posting here.
The knives are solid, if not a great value. The warranty is solid, too.
I've owned a few, and still wouldn't mind a SnG.
The superior, condescending, smartass attitude from the ass-kissing wannabe fanboys who live in a fantasy world and think they're tough, and making some kind of statement of that by buying a knife, but also think they have to walk on eggshells around the makers(interesting paradox) is an even bigger turn off to me than the makers' shenanigans. You can't talk about Striders on here without having to deal with hearing from or about either, but neither has much to do with the knives. Those things do tend to attach a negative stigma to an inanimate object for some people, though.
There is a long and storied history here with strider and bladeforums, that did not end on a good note. It sickens me to see that people still can't burry the hatchet and move one.
Who in the heck really cares if he served or if he didn't!
The knives that strider builds are extremely heavy duty and reliable- thats been a proven fact.
this has gone on long enough I say CLOSE THIS THREAD DOWN!!!
Who in the heck really cares if he served or if he didn't!
The knives that strider builds are extremely heavy duty and reliable- thats been a proven fact.
this has gone on long enough I say CLOSE THIS THREAD DOWN!!!
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thank you for the perspective with out the veiled insults
appreciated and my apologies for aiding in the derailment of the thread
ivan
What's your point? Each one of us had to be called names personally, by Strider, so we could make our judgment? It's not an indicator of anything that three people were called names and there was a post basically telling the customer to shut up about Strider delays?
Which absolutely is not the case today, and never was. Majority of Strider users are still civilians. If Strider knows those knives can only be used by LEO and Mil then perhaps he shouldn't sell to civilians?
Not even lifetime warranty? Besides selling I think maker is responsible for his product, no? Strider is an exception again, normal business rules don't apply?
Matter of trust. That alleged service was heavily used to promote Strider knives for a long period of time. If one can lie for years about that, what is a guarantee that other claims about his product and services are true?
Does Strider make a good knife? Yes. Are they for everyone? No. I think the advice here is before spending a large sum of money on a knife, make sure you've handeled a few. Don't just order one on the internet because other people like them, or they look good in pictures. If you do so, you are likely to be disappointed.
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After reading all of this, as someone who didn't know very much about strider before I came here, they sound very much like the Heckler and Koch of the knife world.
A little bit of rabid fandom going "these knives are the best knife ever" versus another group of haters going "not worth my time or money" balanced with a few stories about how great/horrible their experiences are.
A little bit of rabid fandom going "these knives are the best knife ever" versus another group of haters going "not worth my time or money" balanced with a few stories about how great/horrible their experiences are.
No one DOES care if he served or not... What people do care about is that he is a fraud and a liar..
Why close the thread. ? The OP made a statement, and a valid one...
If I ordered a 300 + dollar knife and it showed up in a baggie, I would wonder too.
This thread IMO has been very civilized so far, so if you are afraid that people are going to start pointing out facts again, than don't read it...
Granted, it really does not need to be started again as there is plenty written about it in the past. However, there are always new people joining BF and may not have been here when all this went on. No reason for them to not be aware of the facts before they decide to drop some coin on a knife thinking that Strider is some kind of military superman.
I would wonder what the heck anyone is doing dropping $300 on a knife that they clearly know NOTHING about.
Anyone who takes even a few minutes to research Striders on the various forums would learn that they are different from Benchmade, MOD, Microtech, Chris Reeve, etc. and should NOT expect pretty packaging and a frilly bow on top.
Proof??
When someone finds DIFINITIVE proof or Mick lying or not being who he said he is/was then well talk. So far the only thing I've seen is that grown men are acting like a buch of 3 yr olds that didn't get their way and because they have a vendetta against a person they feel it necessary to run every thread mentioing said product or person into a virtual abyss.
What we have here is a bunch of mall ninjaery and a whole lot a hear say!
Civilized, ha, I think not!!
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I don't know crap about their personal history. I'm no longer on active duty with the Corps and I'm just a stay at home dad doing everyday crap but I do have several sng's and can confirm: (a) the lock WILL break-in very nicely and (b) they are solid-as-a rock pocketknives. I carried a sebenza my last few years in the Crotch and it too held up fine and the strider is every bit the knife it was (and I loved my sebi) for everyday cutting tasks. P.S. All of mine didn't come in fancy packaging either, so what, the knife itself is what counts! Chill guys, it's all good.
Each one of us had to be called names personally, by Strider, so we could make our judgment? I note a lot of negative posters feel they can sit in judgement. I also note, none of them take the time to explain what part they played in it - or even if they served, too. All they care to do is spout off about it.
Majority of Strider users are still civilians. And the majority of AR owners are civilians, too, as are 1911 owners. Like I said, no real justification for ownership more than pimping their superhero costume. Still, it's a free country. You can't buy either in Great Britian, Canada, or Australia now.
Not even lifetime warranty? Of course - and it transfers with the knife no matter what. MOST makers DON'T do that.
As for Mick and Duane's record of service, I leave it to those with an open mind whether a lie exists. Service WAS served. I DID mine. Did you do YOURS?
Majority of Strider users are still civilians. And the majority of AR owners are civilians, too, as are 1911 owners. Like I said, no real justification for ownership more than pimping their superhero costume. Still, it's a free country. You can't buy either in Great Britian, Canada, or Australia now.
Not even lifetime warranty? Of course - and it transfers with the knife no matter what. MOST makers DON'T do that.
As for Mick and Duane's record of service, I leave it to those with an open mind whether a lie exists. Service WAS served. I DID mine. Did you do YOURS?
Proof??
When someone finds DIFINITIVE proof or Mick lying or not being who he said he is/was then well talk. So far the only thing I've seen is that grown men are acting like a buch of 3 yr olds that didn't get their way and because they have a vendetta against a person they feel it necessary to run every thread mentioing said product or person into a virtual abyss.
What we have here is a bunch of mall ninjaery and a whole lot a hear say!
Civilized, ha, I think not!!
Definitive proof ? Your a little late for that. I guess maybe YOU haven't done your research...
I hope your not to disappointed with what you find.
FYI - the linked threads are from 4 years ago, the poster who prompted the LMS comment insisted that any $325 knife he bought should be perfect! no matter what.
LOOK at the posts and READ about 50 pages, you get the idea another spoiled brat mall princess spoke up about a subject that didn't concern them at all - they weren't the OP. (BTW, I bought my SnG from the OP.) The mall princess hasn't used the login name since 2006. Old History.
Lots of assumptions made in the posts by a lot of people with no clue exactly what happened. As usual.
Thanks for the links - perhaps wading through 4-5 hours of background reading will keep some other clueless icommando from spouting off about stuff they don't know about, like making knives, serving their country, or what a makers policies are.
You give respect, you get respect. What I see is an anonymous mob with no credibility poking at old wounds. I guess it's the annual reenactment of dragging the dead through the streets. I'm sure you feel proud of your valiant keypounding.
LOOK at the posts and READ about 50 pages, you get the idea another spoiled brat mall princess spoke up about a subject that didn't concern them at all - they weren't the OP. (BTW, I bought my SnG from the OP.) The mall princess hasn't used the login name since 2006. Old History.
Lots of assumptions made in the posts by a lot of people with no clue exactly what happened. As usual.
Thanks for the links - perhaps wading through 4-5 hours of background reading will keep some other clueless icommando from spouting off about stuff they don't know about, like making knives, serving their country, or what a makers policies are.
You give respect, you get respect. What I see is an anonymous mob with no credibility poking at old wounds. I guess it's the annual reenactment of dragging the dead through the streets. I'm sure you feel proud of your valiant keypounding.