Strider PT. 30 disappointing minutes.

With a welcome statment like this (you should read it): http://striderknives.com/site/, what do you expect people to expect?
I love this part from Strider welcome page: We LISTEN to what our customers are saying.

After a welcome like that, Mick posted (here, on BF) a knife pic, with a dildo for a handle, because the users were complaining about handle ergonomics and usability of paracord. I assume that was hi-speed and hardcore.

Clearly listening part worked. Just the reply/result is really disconnected.
 
I have yet to handle a Strider folder that had any worse fit and finish than any high end folder I have seen. If they were snowflakes with regards to f&f then I would be wary but I have purchased 3 sight unseen and every one has been consistantly well made...again like any other high end folder I have seen, or owned.

boy i sure have.

in fact, a few of my customs are right near perfect in the F&F area, my darrel ralph talonite maxx to name one, both my crawfords, near perfect, all the emerson customs i have seen have been really good in that dept. my CQC6 is almost as good as the maxx, i have never yet seen a strider even near that level, every last one i have seen had an imperfection or 3, hey not that thats a bad thing (though some might disagree) they are meant to be tools and simply dont offer a high level of F&F. but to say that they are typical in that regard is simply not correct.

have all of mine been perfectly serviceable? yes. were they perfect or pretty close to it? of course not, they dont even claim to be perfect in that regard.
 
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its just a knife. At the end of the day it is simply a tool that has an edge, and that cuts things. Its not some magic bean that will end world hunger or stop wars.

its just a knife.

the sooner people grasp this concept, the better.

:thumbup::cool:

oh i know, i'm going to hell for making this statement, bla bla bla , bla bla bla, bla bla bla, bla bla bla, bla bla bla, bla bla bla, bla bla bla cry me a river.
 
Boo hoo cry cry, Some people don't like the same knife that I do. I think I'll throw a fit and sit in the corner pouting because everyone should agree with ME....
 
What pains me is that people have no morals

Well that seems to contain a lot of irony. :D

A more valid point might be:
What pains me are people who defend makers that exhibit poor morals.
 
These STRIDER Threads are extremely painful. :barf:

1. Hey guys I'm disappointed with my Strider knife
2. STFU! Strider don't need your money and they don't WANT your money. They are made for OPERATORS!
3. I like my Strider knife. I don't care about the politics behind the company, I like the tools.
4. I can't support a company where the owners are liars and have no morals
5. Sebenza!

repeat repeat repeat repeat
 
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I have read the whole backstory on Mick & Duane here, elsewhere, and heard their side of the story. I have met & talked with Mick Strider. I've watched the knife community bicker back & forth between Strider, & Cold Steel the last few years.

Pretty much tired of it.

I own 2 Strider knives and the fit & finish on them is as well as any other semi-custom knife I own.

Realized a while back that it's not worth argueing about it on Blade Forums. The long-term posters have pretty much chosen their sides & nothing will change their minds, so I respect their decision.

What is bad is when someone asks a question like the OP of this thread, is all the people that feel it's their moral obligation to turn them away from Strider knives. This of course brings out the members that like Strider knives and it's Game-On & 200 pages later. None of this addresses the OPs question & just serves to make those participating look like a bunch of gossiping schoolgirls. How about once the links have been posted to the Strider posts here we let the OP read it & form his own opinion, rather than instantly dogpiling the thread & sidetracking it away from the original question. And before someone mentions it, I agree this should also apply to Cold Steel threads.
 
The OP has bought the priviledge to have his own opinion. He has every right to either love, or be disappointed in his purchase.
 
Well that seems to contain a lot of irony. :D

A more valid point might be:
What pains me are people who defend makers that exhibit poor morals.

:yawn:
When you lower yourself to the standards of those that you criticise, you have lost your morals.

The only irony that I see is that people have gone way lower than Mick ever did; and still feel that they are better and have higher moral values!

Its real simple if you don't like the person or the product don't buy it but don't tell others they are wrong for doing such.
 
boy i sure have.

in fact, a few of my customs are right near perfect in the F&F area, my darrel ralph talonite maxx to name one, both my crawfords, near perfect, all the emerson customs i have seen have been really good in that dept. my CQC6 is almost as good as the maxx, i have never yet seen a strider even near that level, every last one i have seen had an imperfection or 3, hey not that thats a bad thing (though some might disagree) they are meant to be tools and simply dont offer a high level of F&F. but to say that they are typical in that regard is simply not correct.

have all of mine been perfectly serviceable? yes. were they perfect or pretty close to it? of course not, they dont even claim to be perfect in that regard.
I really still don't get it. The knives are Ti, G10, S30V, ie, very common materials for knives. They are fairly average in size, the locks on the folders are ubiquitous. If the materials are mundane, then what drives the price up? So many Strider enthusiasts (not detractors) say the F&F isn't the highest of the high end.

I mean, if BM, Kershaw, Spyderco, Buck, etc. used slightly thicker blade stock or a little bigger pivot pin, are you going to pay 2 or 3 times as much for one of their framelocks? Materials cost and labor would barely change.
 
The only irony that I see is that people have gone way lower than Mick ever did; and still feel that they are better and have higher moral values!


I have trouble believing that any sentient being (with opposable thumbs) can actually believe what is quoted above. Somehow, talking about an individual is worse than car jacking and lying about service?

I know that you think you are defending the Strider guys but, I promise, you really aren't helping. I suggest you read, or re-read, Spark's post.
 
The lock engagement sounds like a normal strider. It'll break in quick enough. As far as instructions and packaging I thought you were buying a knife....not a nice presentation of a knife. Stick it in your pocket and carry it, make sure you don't poke yourself with the pointy end or cut yourself with the sharp side. Oh, and remember to close it before putting it in your pocket. Those are the best instructions I was ever given.....as far as CS they're horrible at answering emails so don't count in getting an answer but are great at answering the phone or returning messages. Just remember that you're in another time zone. I dealt with them ftf since they're only 30 minutes north of me and they're great guys that back up their product. Doesn't sound like there's anything wrong with your knife though.
 
well if they market them towards military havent you heard good enough for government work. hehe:jerkit:
 
boy i sure have.

in fact, a few of my customs are right near perfect in the F&F area, my darrel ralph talonite maxx to name one, both my crawfords, near perfect, all the emerson customs i have seen have been really good in that dept. my CQC6 is almost as good as the maxx, i have never yet seen a strider even near that level, every last one i have seen had an imperfection or 3, hey not that thats a bad thing (though some might disagree) they are meant to be tools and simply dont offer a high level of F&F. but to say that they are typical in that regard is simply not correct.

have all of mine been perfectly serviceable? yes. were they perfect or pretty close to it? of course not, they dont even claim to be perfect in that regard.


What imperfections have you seen and which ones are the most pervasive?
 
Given the controversies, past *ehem* public relations and high school drama queen antics surrounding Strider knives I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would deal with them when there are plenty of other knife makers out there offering every bit as much quality and much better customer service with none of the superfluous crap. I cannot comment on how great Strider knives are other than to say they look like fantastic hard use knives. However, I can the same thing about a lot of other knives too and from companies with none of the excess baggage.
 
JRB, I agree that the drama is unpalatable, but I sure find myself reading every page of various drama threads (not just Strider, but Maxpedition, BRKT, etc). I don't have a dog in any of the fights, except that I appreciate good gear.

At least these threads (tired as they may be/become) provide a place for these issues to be discussed so that potential buyers can use the search function, do their homework, come to their own conclusions, and make informed purchases. It is clear from the pages/links above that some customers like Strider's CS and others do not. Laying out their reasons why only helps potential customers determine which group they belong to.

One person's "superfluous crap" is another's bread-and-butter. :shrug:
 
I mean, if BM, Kershaw, Spyderco, Buck, etc. used slightly thicker blade stock or a little bigger pivot pin, are you going to pay 2 or 3 times as much for one of their framelocks?
Because those companies don't yell at every corner how bada$$ they are and other hardcore stuff.

As far as I am concerned, in this, and many other threads it is Strider staunch fans who create the problem.
Just look at this very thread, OP made some complaints about FF and packaging and then we have strider fans piling up with whinny, fool and other "compliments". It's the tone that Strider set, and loyal fans are following very loyally on that.
Complaining about someone else's integrity and honesty while stating that whatever Strider doesn't matter. If you are ok with that, fine, but why call other people names, just because they have problems with your favorite product.
 
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