Strider PT. 30 disappointing minutes.

[Gator97]

Proof??
When someone finds DIFINITIVE proof or Mick lying or not being who he said he is/was then well talk.

There was a court order explicitly stating the proof you seek for. If you dig the linked threads it's there. Ironically enough, that involved slandering a real serviceman.

FYI - the linked threads are from 4 years ago,

It's pretty amazing, the shifts in logic
So, Strider customers are wrong if they buy their product without knowing those products well. However, Strider customers are also wrong if they look, research Strider related info, here or elsewhere?!
In the end makers reputation maters, a lot. How can one research and get info about the product, without getting info about its maker anyway?

You give respect, you get respect.

Completely agree, however that is the issue - lots of folks don't get much of respect form them, if any.

 

[TheFlash]

Just want to put in my two cents here:
4 years ago I purchased a Strider PT folder. I bought it not to collect or fondle or just to look at, but to use it and use it hard for household and yard chores.
The PT arrived in a baggie (don't recall if it had the ziplock 'upgrade' or not) and believe it or not, I actually knew what to do with it!
It was immediately clipped to my pocket after I pulled it out of the bag.

Over the last 4 years, it has been used and used hard. Not abused, but certainly not babied. There are some marks on the blade and one ding in the titanium near the front as well as a small ding in the G10 handle. Do I care? No...
That little PT cuts like a small chainsaw, I've used it to cut thick plastic and many other tough materials. Yet, in the last 4 years, I've only needed to sharpen it 3 times. That S30V steel is great, it was properly heat-treated, the lock-up is solid and it's been a reliable EDC folder for me on the weekends (don't carry it at my white-collar-type jobs).
Would I get another? Yes, in a New York second! Hopefully an SnG someday...

And, as a side comment, I also have a Buck-Strider 889 and 882BKX that also see hard use in the yard, garage, etc. Those also perform well, with a solid lock-up and hold an edge well - even the 420HC bladed 889.

Have I ever owned other knives like a CRK Sebenza? Yes, and I sold it soon after.
Why?
I prefer the blade hole for opening rather than a blade stud. Personal preference, but the PT was just more ergonomic for me.

If you want a hard-use knife, try a Strider knife!

Regards,
Mike

 

[3Guardsmen]

Proof??

When someone finds DIFINITIVE proof or Mick lying or not being who he said he is/was then well talk. So far the only thing I've seen is that grown men are acting like a buch of 3 yr olds that didn't get their way and because they have a vendetta against a person they feel it necessary to run every thread mentioing said product or person into a virtual abyss.

What we have here is a bunch of mall ninjaery and a whole lot a hear say!

Civilized, ha, I think not!!

First off, if you'd bother to do some research (really doesn't take much time at all), you wouldn't come off looking like a person without a clue as to what he's talking about. Secondly, if you're going to go 'ALL CAPS' on a word (it's definitive, not "difinitive"), make sure you spell it right, unless of course you REALLY want end up looking like a person without a clue as to what he's talking about.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450456

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453852

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518522

 

[stabman]

Those who demand that a maker must obey their concept of fit and finish and cater to them without fail are not living in the real world. They were probably raised in a mall.

No, they were probably raised with a quaint concept that you should get the value you pay for. What a WEIRD concept.
Why you are an apologist for liars with shoddy quality control escapes me. What's YOUR dog in the fight?

 

[Jos]

Hey look! A dead horse. Let's go beat it.

 

[akadave2]

Hmmmm....now I know why there isnt a Strider forum on this site.

 

[Bushman5]

I prefer the term King or Emperor.

POLLYANNA!

joking

 

[MORIMOTOM]

Hmmmm....now I know why there isnt a Strider forum on this site.

there was at one time.


already posted, but i like strider folders, and my experiences with their representatives and customer service have been only positive. i didn't know they discount for leo, but ive never dropped that info on them either.

i read all the threads about the military service records, or lack thereof, of strider and dwyer. i followed the trainwreck threads with some interest.

seems to me there are some complaints of qc and cs, but in general everyone who has owned a strider knife has said good things about it. whether or not it was a "keeper" boils down to personal preferences.

i have yet to find a company or maker that has not had complaints of quality control or customer service. they tend to be the vocal minority, relative to the number of products in the marketplace.

some refuse to support their company for ethical reasons. that is each individual's prerogative.


i have no real dog in the fight, and i was dissapointed to read some of those strider threads. dissapointed in a company from which i had been buying knives for several years.

but my appreciation for their products has resulted in my continued patronage.

im not here to defend the company, and never was. but they make a damn fine folder.

 

[3Guardsmen]

there was at one time.


already posted, but i like strider folders, and my experiences with their representatives and customer service have been only positive. i didn't know they discount for leo, but ive never dropped that info on them either.

i read all the threads about the military service records, or lack thereof, of strider and dwyer. i followed the trainwreck threads with some interest.

seems to me there are some complaints of qc and cs, but in general everyone who has owned a strider knife has said good things about it. whether or not it was a "keeper" boils down to personal preferences.

i have yet to find a company or maker that has not had complaints of quality control or customer service. they tend to be the vocal minority, relative to the number of products in the marketplace.

some refuse to support their company for ethical reasons. that is each individual's prerogative.


i have no real dog in the fight, and i was dissapointed to read some of those strider threads. dissapointed in a company to which i had been buying knives for several years.

but my appreciation for their products has resulted in my continued patronage.

im not here to defend the company, and never was. but they make a damn fine folder.

Well said!:thumbup:

Regards,
3G

 

[spidyman]

First off, if you'd bother to do some research (really doesn't take much time at all), you wouldn't come off looking like a person without a clue as to what he's talking about. Secondly, if you're going to go 'ALL CAPS' on a word (it's definitive, not "difinitive"), make sure you spell it right, unless of course you REALLY want end up looking like a person without a clue as to what he's talking about.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450456

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=453852

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518522

YOU KNOW I'VE GOT IN TROUBLE HERE BEFORE FOR VOCING MY OPINION SO I'M JUST GOING TO LET IT DROP; BUT JUST BEING RUDE ABOUT ONES SPELLING AND PROVIDING NOTHING POSITIVE TO THE DISCUSSION AND INSULTING ONE WHEN THEY VOICE THEIR OPINION JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE THE ONE WITH OUT A CLUE AS TO WHAT ONE IS TALKING ABOUT.

Most of what is posted in the above quoted threads is simply 'hear say' not fact as you make it out to be. Oh, whats to say that the DOD is being truthful, we all know that the Govt. NEVER lies.

Most of the people I've dealt with on here have been more than helpful; however when any topic regaring Strider Knives or some mention thereof out comes the trolls who have some agenda to run Strider and Mick into the ground.

I don't know Mick, have never dealt with strider; I do know that they make tough solid knives, those that I've handled and owned have been flawless and have performed lightyears above my expectations.

What pains me is that people have no morals, we all know why strider is no longer welcome here, but geesh give it a rest; pounding someone and or their company into the dirt when they have no chance for a rebutal is just plain rude and wrong. Doing so only makes you as bad or worse than those you accuse.

Again I'm not here to moonlight for Mick or Strider, I have no intrest in this.

 

[Sword and Shield]

Umm, Strider bids DOD contracts and provides equipment - knives - to specification for the Marines, the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, etc.

So what? You're telling me they can't slide a knife in a cardboard box to show a contact number for warranty work?

 

[3Guardsmen]

YOU KNOW I'VE GOT IN TROUBLE HERE BEFORE FOR VOCING MY OPINION SO I'M JUST GOING TO LET IT DROP; BUT JUST BEING RUDE ABOUT ONES SPELLING AND PROVIDING NOTHING POSITIVE TO THE DISCUSSION AND INSULTING ONE WHEN THEY VOICE THEIR OPINION JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE THE ONE WITH OUT A CLUE AS TO WHAT ONE IS TALKING ABOUT.

You asked for definitive proof, stating that it was lacking. I corrected you and provided you with links to the information. as far as the rest of your post goes.......If the shoe fits, buddy......

Most of what is posted in the above quoted threads is simply 'hear say' not fact as you make it out to be. Oh, whats to say that the DOD is being truthful, we all know that the Govt. NEVER lies.

I guess you didn't see the documentation attached to the threads, or the links to the information obtained from the Military through the FOIA, or the Court affidavits, or the posts on other forums, or.....

Most of the people I've dealt with on here have been more than helpful; however when any topic regaring Strider Knives or some mention thereof out comes the trolls who have some agenda to run Strider and Mick into the ground.

I fail to see the connection between people trying to make sure customers are well informed and "trolling."

I don't know Mick, have never dealt with strider;

Then why is it you feel you are in a position to say that all of the information that has been posted, including the documentation compiled by PowNet and Spark is "hear say?"

What pains me is that people have no morals, we all know why strider is no longer welcome here, but geesh give it a rest; pounding someone and or their company into the dirt when they have no chance for a rebutal is just plain rude and wrong. Doing so only makes you as bad or worse than those you accuse.

Again I'm not here to moonlight for Mick or Strider, I have no intrest in this.

Mick IS Strider.

 

[Spark]

Oh for the love of pete.

The only people making a "big deal" out of things is you mall ninja groupies. Y'all have it fixed into your heads that somehow $400+ knives aren't worthy of being finished properly, showing proper craftsmanship, or attention to detail simply because they have some 5 cents of string wrapped around the handle, or tiger stripes on the blade, and you got suckered by a couple fast talkers with a big line of horse crap and tall tales of derring do that aren't matched by the facts. The reason these threads come up over the years is because actual customers are surprised by actual problems that they actually experienced. It's not indicative of the entire product line, or even a majority; but stop acting like the customer is wrong for expecting the price to match the product. If the issues were not there, then people wouldn't be complaining about them.

I'm really sick of this "respect given" BS as well, it's amazing the new lows some of you hypocrites will go to, especially considering that the guys you are defending are the first ones to show their ass whenever there is a problem.

Give it a rest already, and save your excuses for other people. You want to believe that a couple wannabes are actually bona-fide operators, be my guest. Throw your money down wherever you want, you earned the right. Just like the guy who buys his knife and is disappointed with how it arrived has the right to complain about it. The only reason why these threads go past 5 pages into the 50+ range is because you suckers don't know when to admit that you got had, or aren't willing to admit that the guy paying $$$$$ for something might have a valid complaint when it arrives a condition that's less than what they're expecting.

I've seen thread after thread about how companies should be boycotted because they "knocked off" a design, yet none of you has the intestinal fortitude to level the same boycott at a couple guys that knocked off having a special operations resume that others paid for in blood, and actually died living out. You got lied to for years and there's still a number of you denying it. I'm getting pretty sick of you groupies and your attitudes. If any of you paid more than lip service to some of the crap you were spewing, you'd have shut up a long time ago.

 

[midnight flyer]

Oh for the love of pete.

The only people making a "big deal" out of things is you mall ninja groupies. Y'all have it fixed into your heads that somehow $400+ knives aren't worthy of being finished properly, showing proper craftsmanship, or attention to detail simply because they have some 5 cents of string wrapped around the handle, or tiger stripes on the blade, and you got suckered by a couple fast talkers with a big line of horse crap and tall tales of derring do that aren't matched by the facts. The reason these threads come up over the years is because actual customers are surprised by actual problems that they actually experienced. If the issues were not there, then people wouldn't be complaining about them.

Thank Gawd. Finally, a voice of reason.

New to this forum, it didn't take long to find out the sacred cows of the site. There are certain manufacturers, as in this instance, you aren't even allowed to question. And if you share a negative thought, the cluster screwing you get is amazing.

The blind dedication of the fanboys on this forum is simply amazing. Their instantaneous, sarcastic defense (not in just this instance) of a product is really something one has to witness to believe.

I haven't really seen a forum or newsgroup where you can ask a question about "what to expect" or "is this OK" and have yourself pilloried for being stupid, inexperienced, and then ridiculed. And the dogpiling.... sheesh.

Some real ringers around here.

Robert

 

[Kiah]

I'm really sick of this "respect given" BS as well, it's amazing the new lows some of you hypocrites will go to, especially considering that the guys you are defending are the first ones to show their ass whenever there is a problem.

WTF are ya talkin bout? Strider Rulz. They're just misunderstood. I mean really, who among us has never stolen a car at gunpoint or stretched the truth a little? Is saying you were a hardcore sniper when you were really a data technician really that much of a stretch? They're basically the same damn job. One just has a cooler title. You're just not high speed or hardcore enough. You may not be able to tell it but I'm typing hardcore right now. I have an SNG between my teeth and paracord wrapped tightly around my naughty parts as you read this. HARDCORE.

 

[Bushman5]

snort, hahahahaha, KIAHS ya owe me a beer, all mine sprayed out thru my nose and onto the desk. One might say High Speed too!

 

[Bushman5]

So what? You're telling me they can't slide a knife in a cardboard box to show a contact number for warranty work?

cardboard box, plastic bag, waxed paper, intestine of a sheep....all the same really........in the grande scheme of things do you use the knife or the packaging.........?



oh i cant resist, going to hell for this i'm sure......

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[3Guardsmen]

Those who demand that a maker must obey their concept of fit and finish and cater to them without fail are not living in the real world. They were probably raised in a mall.

One of the most ignorant statements I've seen on BF!:thumbdn:

With a welcome statment like this (you should read it): http://striderknives.com/site/, what do you expect people to expect?

With a statement made about their knives all being custom, like this: http://www.badlandsforums.com/faq/AreStriderknivesproductionorcustom.shtml, what do you expect people to expect?

Before anyone jumps on the "but it says it's an Unofficial FAQ' bandwagon, it is what you are redirected to when you click the 'Frequent Questions' button on the official StriderKnives.com site. Try it and see.

Regards,
3G

 

[SIFU1A]

as far as being SF or whatever i would have to say that the strider guys are guilty of at least embellishment if not out and out dishonesty there is no argueing with that, period end of story.

that said they do make a pretty good knife. is it worth the $$? as much as a lot of other knives are "worth" it, if ya like them they are well worth it.

FWIW i swapped off my last strider a while back and when it comes time to replace it i will be getting a hinderer '18, most ly due to the fact that imho they are more "worth it" than striders lol, they seem to have a lot better F&F, on a very similar style of knife, for just a tad more $$.

 

[akadave2]

I have yet to handle a Strider folder that had any worse fit and finish than any high end folder I have seen. If they were snowflakes with regards to f&f then I would be wary but I have purchased 3 sight unseen and every one has been consistantly well made...again like any other high end folder I have seen, or owned.