STRIDER vs Emerson

Now I'm not putting Spyderco down in anyway, but... I have a brand ndew Manix 2 Tan G10/ M4, a standard para2 and a like new CQC-10 in front of me. The para2 has been my edc for a while now. Only complaint is that the S30V loves to chip. The sprint manix has alot of closed blade play, alot. It is quite rugged feeling though. The CQC-10 is the closest to center, came with the best bevel eveness. Otherwise, the para2 and CQC-10 are equal in f&f. The manix has a touch better f&f other than the closed blade play issue which is just a factor in the design.

I have never owned a Strider but in all the Emersons I have owned they were right there with or a touch better than the Spydercos in my eyes. Except a delica I git a while back, I think Frost cutlery's QC would have rejected that jnife. Every company will put out a bad one that QC missed here and there.

Not being a fan boy either but out of Spydercp. Emerson and Strider, the Emersons generally spend less time on the shelf and good luck picking one out and finding it in a store online that day.

All brands have haters. Personally, I hate Benchmade. I don't like their business practices, the horrible bevels and I wouldn't take 10 of them for either of these 3 knives.
 
If I were to choose the most tacticool blades based on what I see clipped to pockets and worn on sheaths here in Afg, then I guess Gerber and CRKT are miles ahead of BM, which is ahead of Kershaw, which is ahead of Spyderco. Busse, Emerson, Crusader Forge, Mercworx, Strider, Extrema Ratio, Bark River, Fallkniven, et al may as well not exist as far as I can tell.
 
hardheart said:
If I were to choose the most tacticool blades based on what I see clipped to pockets and worn on sheaths here in Afg, then I guess Gerber and CRKT are miles ahead of BM, which is ahead of Kershaw, which is ahead of Spyderco. Busse, Emerson, Crusader Forge, Mercworx, Strider, Extrema Ratio, Bark River, Fallkniven, et al may as well not exist as far as I can tell.
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Very interesting post. Thank you!

Just wondering which Gerbers and CRKTs you're seeing over there.
 
hardheart said:
If I were to choose the most tacticool blades based on what I see clipped to pockets and worn on sheaths here in Afg, then I guess Gerber and CRKT are miles ahead of BM, which is ahead of Kershaw, which is ahead of Spyderco. Busse, Emerson, Crusader Forge, Mercworx, Strider, Extrema Ratio, Bark River, Fallkniven, et al may as well not exist as far as I can tell.
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Basically, you said everyone carries what the exchange has, IME.
 
hardheart said:
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I would ask a service member for knife advice about as often as I would ask them for relationship advice, about as much research and thought goes into both choices it seems.
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Totally agree. Just wondering what they tend to use. I've heard KaBars are very popular, with good reason.
 
Just wondering, what do Seal Team Six prefer?

I know Seals liked to use the CQC-6 and CQC-7. But Dick Marcinko worked with Strider to develope the RW series specifically for Seals. Anyone know what they use?
 
Burdan said:
Just wondering, what do Seal Team Six prefer?

I know Seals liked to use the CQC-6 and CQC-7. But Dick Marcinko worked with Strider to develope the RW series specifically for Seals. Anyone know what they use?
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I am sure they carry pretty much whatever they want and each one is likely different.
 
scouter27 said:
In my experience, Mick is very open with his military history, and exactly how it came about that he was discharged. With 25 years in the Corps, I find it hard to believe that you never came across an enlisted guy that became a scape goat for a bunch of screw ups (his included) all the way up the chain. It happened to me, though not to the extreme as Mick's situation. It was my fault, but not solely and the situation was more complicated that anyone gave it credit for and the whole thing came down on me and no one else.

Mick may have been convicted, but IMO, he is not a criminal, in the common use of the word.

For the record, the Corps was able to overlook Mick's past to bring a couple Strider knives into the inventory, the SMF and DB-L. That aught to tell you something.
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Scooter, I saw a lot of things during my career. The vast majority of those with whom I had the privilege of serving with were fine Americans who were able to maintain their integrity in the face of many circimstances. Nobody is perfect and I certainly appreciate the concept of paying for passed errors and moving on. I also understand how events can morph in the re-telling, however there is a line between minor embellishment of what is essentially true and the claiming of honors for which one has no right to. Ultimately, it is an individual decision as to what is acceptable.
 
I think Mick knew exactly what he was doing when he misrepresented his military career. He did it for the marketing and street cred and he got it in spades, consequences be damned. Yeah-- you can go back and say that he's a good guy regardless, but in terms of business ethics he has the integrity of a bag of wet leaves. This is not to say I don't think his knives are cool (if very overpriced), and I'm also not saying I'd never buy a Strider (in fact, I've come quite close at times). But I have exactly zero respect for him or his brand, for whatever that is worth.

On some level I give him credit for building a strong, appealing brand identity. Apart from Mick's shadiness the name "Strider" evokes a very specific aesthetic and lifestyle. So you could say he bought some tangible marketing wizardry with his credibility.
 
Appletz said:
I think Mick knew exactly what he was doing when he misrepresented his military career. He did it for the marketing and street cred and he got it in spades, consequences be damned. Yeah-- you can go back and say that he's a good guy regardless, but in terms of business ethics he has the integrity of a bag of wet leaves. This is not to say I don't think his knives are cool (if very overpriced), and I'm also not saying I'd never buy a Strider (in fact, I've come quite close at times). But I have exactly zero respect for him or his brand, for whatever that is worth.

On some level I give him credit for building a strong, appealing brand identity. Apart from Mick's shadiness the name "Strider" evokes a very specific aesthetic and lifestyle. So you could say he bought some tangible marketing wizardry with his credibility.
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I would agree with this. As I've said before. Follow the facts where they lead you. If you can't see it for what it is after doing that then you need to take off those rose colored glasses to remove your personal bias because when you read some of Mick's posts and then find out the truth you realize he was flat out telling tall tales that simply do not pan out as having any merit regarding combat and other services. Never happened. Still I'm all about live and let live and I certainly understand that being human we all stumble at times. My take on that is he could have been better about how he handled things and no one can tell me that it hasn't hurt them at Strider even if a little. The issue with Duane also had a negative draw but personally I think Duane has handled himself a little better than Mick did over the issue.

When it comes to knives I have to say the folders are great by Strider even if quality control did seem to go down hill a bit in recent years. I think they've fixed that though and it appears they are back to where they once were for that. I like the SnG and PT a lot and have had several of them. I got rid of them all at this point but seriously why is it necessary to like or even know the man behind the knives if the knives are great? Sometimes you're better off just not knowing a lot of the dirty laundry issues with folks. I don't really want to learn about Lynn Thompson or Mick Strider or anything about anyone else these days. Just show me the knife they make and let me judge the knife for what it is. Same way for these China made products that have stepped up in quality here in recent times. Just show me the knife. I don't need to know about all the crap regarding the company or anything else. The knife should speak for itself. The Strider folders do that loudly. They are among the best available in tactical folders and thats the simple fact of the matter. Regardless of your feelings of Mick or Duane you got to admit the guys can make some awesome knives!
STR
 
STR said:
I would agree with this. As I've said before. Follow the facts where they lead you. If you can't see it for what it is after doing that then you need to take off those rose colored glasses to remove your personal bias because when you read some of Mick's posts and then find out the truth you realize he was flat out telling tall tales that simply do not pan out as having any merit regarding combat and other services. Never happened. Still I'm all about live and let live and I certainly understand that being human we all stumble at times. My take on that is he could have been better about how he handled things and no one can tell me that it hasn't hurt them at Strider even if a little. The issue with Duane also had a negative draw but personally I think Duane has handled himself a little better than Mick did over the issue.

When it comes to knives I have to say the folders are great by Strider even if quality control did seem to go down hill a bit in recent years. I think they've fixed that though and it appears they are back to where they once were for that. I like the SnG and PT a lot and have had several of them. I got rid of them all at this point but seriously why is it necessary to like or even know the man behind the knives if the knives are great? Sometimes you're better off just not knowing a lot of the dirty laundry issues with folks. I don't really want to learn about Lynn Thompson or Mick Strider or anything about anyone else these days. Just show me the knife they make and let me judge the knife for what it is. Same way for these China made products that have stepped up in quality here in recent times. Just show me the knife. I don't need to know about all the crap regarding the company or anything else. The knife should speak for itself. The Strider folders do that loudly. They are among the best available in tactical folders and thats the simple fact of the matter. Regardless of your feelings of Mick or Duane you got to admit the guys can make some awesome knives!
STR
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Great Post STR. :thumbup:

I don't get into the politics in the knife industry and I also could care care less about peoples pasts, just show me the knives and let me make up my own mind about them.

There are some who get so carried away by the politics they really miss out of some high quality knives in the process.
 
I cant speak for Strider, but Ive heard nothing but good about them. Only negative is the price and thats not so much a real negative because you know that when you shell the money out.
I have one emerson, in fact I posted pics where I re-ground the blade profile to suit me..Its a good knife, with good steel but I wont put it even close to my ZT's..For the same or less money a ZT is real hard to beat. The liner lock on a ZT 0350 is as thick or thicker than many of my pocket knives blades,LOL..The ZT 0200 is as smooth as any knife Ive ever handled with G10 and 154cm steel. Super heavy duty, man I love it..
Recurve blades aint for everyone but for someone like me that skins and breaks down lots of animals they are great.
 
I have had a ton of knives from both brands. honestly, striders are overbuilt and are great knives, but I am in a stage where emersons are the "it" thing for me. Pocket friendly, scarey sharp out the box. If I go overseas, definitely Id have a strider, but for everyday use, or SD I use my emersons. I also like filed stripping my knives, and I can't stand the bull pivot
but flathead screws are fine by me.
 
Simple.... Strider. Some people think they are overpriced, those people have never had one. they are insanely tough and great quality!
 
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