Strongest folding knife !

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Attache are CAD pics of FFK as I designed....notice thumb lever is stowed back along top of blade in folded position also. Thumb lever will be streamlined more. Think vanadium in the thumb lever will be important for long term wear. S30v or Elmax(4%).....what else is available ?BF FFK folded.jpgBF FFK open.jpg
 
I think you'd be a lot better received if you didn't make unsubstantiated claims. The majority of posts in your threads have been people calling you out. Not what I would want as a knifemaker...

As a potential buyer the claims you are making, specifically about it being the "strongest folding knife," is off putting. It makes me not want to buy the knife, even if it was badass. When you make statements that your knife is the "strongest" you're inferring that all other folders are weaker. It's the whole tearing other people down to build yourself up concept. It's borderline disrespectful and at least, abrasive.
 
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Attache are CAD pics of FFK as I designed....notice thumb lever is stowed back along top of blade in folded position also. Thumb lever will be streamlined more. Think vanadium in the thumb lever will be important for long term wear. S30v or Elmax(4%).....what else is available ?View attachment 445918View attachment 445919
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I have to say that for a knife that's supposed to be a hard worker, why would you have a design where it looks like the blade is trying to shy away from the work? You're making something that's supposedly able to chop down a stand of trees, right? Why not make the blade shape more forward? Like a Kukri, or even a Spyderco Gayle Bradley? Just not a fan of that shape, and plus, sharpening it will be annoying, which means I wouldn't consider it personally.
 
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Attache are CAD pics of FFK as I designed....notice thumb lever is stowed back along top of blade in folded position also. Thumb lever will be streamlined more. Think vanadium in the thumb lever will be important for long term wear. S30v or Elmax(4%).....what else is available ?View attachment 445918View attachment 445919
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Mike,
The blade profile is that of a drop point hunter, a knife intended to cut meat & hide. I also recommend that you use a blade pattern designed for the heavy chopping and other heavy work that you have said this knife is intended for.

Also I wouldn't worry that much about the lever material and i suggest you make your Lever engaged forward so the user could rest his thumb on it in a side grasp of the knife. Kinda like the thumb rest you have currently on this CAD.
 
The blade design was meant to increased cutting edge length. I have to agree though it should be designed for chopping also.
 
I too would like to see testing and a comparison to the Tri-Ad. If someone wants to substantiate a claim of the "strongest", they are going to need to show the lock has superior strength to the Tri-Ad lock by testing it using similar methods/conditions.

Demko's own testing has placed Cold Steel Knives with the Tri-Ad lock in a vice, and literally hung over 600lbs of weights from it without damage to the knife/mechanism. Independent tests have supported the findings that this lock is stupidly strong. One thing about this lock worth noting is that when the Tri-Ad lock is locked open, the lock itself is actually reinforcing the stop pin and transferring load. From a functional perspective, this makes the lock more useful given some super overbuilt locks neglect the fact that the stop pin is going to see more force than the lock itself with most normal types of strenuous usage. In other terms, someone looking to substantiate claims of having a stronger lock will need to show their knife is capable of withstanding both kinds of vertical force.

Additionally, I would like to see the knife used to baton multiple pieces of a harder wood, to see if this knife develops blade play after usage which exerts that type of vertical force & impact. The Tri-Ad lock is built to account for wear from hard usage without developing blade play. But many other folders with ridiculously strong locks do develop blade play from this usage because the knife is not designed to account for the shock and accelerated wear associated.

So let's see a few comparisons to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgOYBu9tvgM
 
FFK said:
The blade design was meant to increased cutting edge length. I have to agree though it should be designed for chopping also.
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Mike,Please don't tell me that you are having another prototype made that isn't what you want?

Mike,
I suggest you dump the drop point hunter and go for a 7-9" Bowie blade profile with a angled clip on appox, the first third of the knife and the height of the blade be no less than 1 3/4" and the steel be 1/4" to 3/8" in thickness at the spine with a Full Flat Grind. A true battle Bowie.

What say you?
 
I seen the first video you had posted awhile ago about this knife and thought it was a interesting design with the locking area. I bet with some refinement you could make this thing really light for some minimalist hiker applications maybe.

A little off topic, but i think it's hilarious for all the people jumping ur shit about the "folding fixed blade" slogan. C'mon guys i don't post much, but almost every hour there's a strongest folder thread with several pages of debate.:rolleyes:
 
rpnp said:
A little off topic, but i think it's hilarious for all the people jumping ur shit about the "folding fixed blade" slogan. C'mon guys i don't post much, but almost every hour there's a strongest folder thread with several pages of debate.:rolleyes:
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I may sound like a proverbial broken record, but it isn't so much the folding fixed blade part that's getting to people. It's that some would at least like to see some substantiation of these claims. Personally, I get it, it's in prototype stage, there might not be a lot of money to go around for testing (although testing lock strength doesn't need to be that expensive either). However, I think a lot of people would just prefer that before such a claim is made, some definitive proof can go along with it. I think if the OP had just waited a little bit til some testing was done, and then posted the claim with some video proof, it would have gone over a lot better. It's part of why Cold Steel calls their videos literally "Proof" videos.

Sure, OP is an up-and-coming maker and not a big, established company. But still, a little testing before the claims would have gone a long way. Just my two cents. I bear no ill will to the OP and I am sure that in terms of engineering he is far more creative than I could be.
 
Lock strength or not, that handle shape is going to ruin anyone's day after about 3 minutes of use.
 
People want knives that are easy to carry, easy to use, easy to keep working and that are made by a company or maker that actually knows what they are talking about. Your knife looks to be sacrificing all the things people want in a knife and all in the name of pandering to this new lock you have designed, IMO.

This proto needs to be finalised, as in made to the actaul specs you intend for the production piece. It needs to be carried and used for a number of months at least to find all those niggles and issues. It needs to get dirty, it needs to get wet, it needs to get sandy, dusty, dropped, dragged through a hedge row backwards, spat at and slapped. Then you will have something to present to an audience and have something real to talk about. :)
 
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It needs to get dirty, it needs to get wet, it needs to get sandy, dusty, dropped, dragged through a hedge row backwards, spat at and slapped.
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I really want to make some kind of non-knife joke here... ;)
 
"The last time I was dropped, dragged backwards through a hedgerow and spat upon, I woke up with an extra hundred dollars in my pocket." (rimshot please)
 
This is getting ridiculous. OP just refuses to post proof of his statements. He seems to just think that we should take his word for it. How long does it take to make and upload CS style "proof" vids?
 
singularity35 said:
This is getting ridiculous. OP just refuses to post proof of his statements. He seems to just think that we should take his word for it. How long does it take to make and upload CS style "proof" vids?
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And when/if he does, will you accept it as proof of his statements ?

Will you say ..........."wow, he was right all along, that folding knife really does have strong fixed blade capability."

I have a feeling that if the OP did indeed post such a video, more then likely it would be meet with a response along the lines of ............."Well that does not proof anything really, all of cold steel knives can do the same thing, you should take a sledgehammer and a hockey mask and destroy your prototype while filming it. And if you don't you are just making unsupported claims about your knife"

So far he has gotten the memberships that have been asked for, even though he did not need to do so, as he is not selling anything.
He has come up with a timeframe for the video that Marcinek asked for in post 89. The OP said "2 weeks or so...." yesterday. That seems more then reasonable for person who has a life other then posting on this board.

I look forward to the video to see if when the OP "puts up" marcinek will "Shut up"
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Been thinking FFK. You keep incessantly selling the idea that you make the strongest folder. So. It must be stronger than Cold Steels products. And you keep incessantly complaining about how expensive the testing would be to prove how strong it is.

Time for some Cold Steel type stabbing tests. Those are cheap. All we have seen is you gingerly stick the thing 1/32 of an inch into a wood deck.

Time to put up or shut up, if you ask me.
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I might be wrong, but I doubt it will settle things as well as implied in post 89 in this tread, what do you think ?
 
You say it's going to take 2 weeks to prove your knife is strong, why is that? You already have a few working prototypes from the sounds of it so is there any reason why your not going to use one of those to beat up right now? And what are you going to be doing to prove to us that your knife is as strong as you say?
 
@Hawkings: whether I accept it or not, it will show that the OP is serious about backing his claims up with more than words.
 
With two weeks, I would like to see this sort of test. Still get a good chuckle out of it… unfortunately the quest did not seem to continue after video #6.
Too bad, I was rooting for the guy. :D

[video=youtube;oNFGPicxxqM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNFGPicxxqM[/video]
 
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