Strongest folding knife !

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FFK said:
The longer blade FFK version is relevant....just like a large fixed blade is relevant. Personally I prefer that no blade protrude when folded. But that is my opinion.
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FFK,

Why are you planning to make a version the protrudes from the handle when folded if even you, the maker, prefer that no blade protrude?

I agree with Quiet, Marcinek and others, you'll get a lot of people who are not knife enthusiasts buying what was the original design. But even the non-knife community is unlikely to buy a folding knife that doesn't really fold, in my opinion.
 
You guys remember the Benchmade LFK-Large Folding Knife? In that design the handle was shorter than the blade, but an extra piece popped out when folded so that it didn't have to be carried with a sheath. Never owned one of those, but at least with that design, you could have longer blade-to-handle ratio without really sacrificing folding blade capabilities. Still a clunky design in my opinion. But better than a folding knife that needs a sheath... it's one of the primary reasons I buy folding knives, personally.

Admin: Red, what's that on your belt?
Me: This? Don't worry sir, just my trusty folding knife, which I use for utility work?
Admin: A folding knife you say? Why carry it in a sheath like that?
Me: Well sir, it folds, but it also needs a sheath because some of the blade sticks out.
Admin: So it doesn't really fold all the way?
Me: Come to think of it sir, I guess you're right. When you're right, you're right.
Admin: I don't mind you carrying your pocket knives here, but this sort of highly visible, blade sticking out of the handle knife seems like it will cause a lot of problems for you here at work.
Me: You're right, but it's just so damned convenient. When I fold it up I just have to also put it in this sheath, and I'm good to go. It's really simple.
Admin: Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a folding knife? Excuse my ignorance, I'm not a knife person like you. I often rely on you for knife knowledge.
Me: It does seem sort of superfluous, I admit that.
Admin: Thanks to your level-headed nature, I feel much more comfortable around big, scary slipjoints than I used to... but now I just don't know.
Me: I completely understand. Excuse me, I have a loose thread on my trousers. Watch me cut it without opening the knife. Check it out.

(FFK, no reflection on your design personally, I've just seen blade longer than handle designs on the market before. Having a bit of fun at their expense in general.)
 
Hawkings said:
So far he has gotten the memberships that have been asked for, even though he did not need to do so, as he is not selling anything.
He has come up with a timeframe for the video that Marcinek asked for in post 89. The OP said "2 weeks or so...." yesterday. That seems more then reasonable for person who has a life other then posting on this board.
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Buying a membership doesn't make him right. When you make claims like: "I made the STRONGEST folding knife," people are gonna ask "Why is it the strongest?" This is simple logic.

I'm beginning to think that the OP is operating under the "Any publicity is good publicity" notion. Maybe he thinks that the more he keeps people yapping about his inflammatory/abrasive marketing the better. Really it's annoying and makes me want to go out of my way NOT to do business with him.
 
creature7 said:
Buying a membership doesn't make him right. When you make claims like: "I made the STRONGEST folding knife," people are gonna ask "Why is it the strongest?" This is simple logic.

I'm beginning to think that the OP is operating under the "Any publicity is good publicity" notion. Maybe he thinks that the more he keeps people yapping about his inflammatory/abrasive marketing the better. Really it's annoying and makes me want to go out of my way NOT to do business with him.
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To be honest, his repeated marketing attempts aren't even what's concerning. It's his responses to peoples' design critiques. I'm starting to think we're being played.

"Well, the blade shape is wrong." His response: "You're right, it really should be more of this other shape." Wait, what? YOU'RE THE DESIGNER. Why isn't this blade shape the proper shape for the desired use-case already then? Why wasn't the blade shape what you actually wanted in the first place?! This means one of two things. 1. This guy didn't actually design the knife at all, and he's reacting to that fact by agreeing that had he actually designed it, then it would have a different blade shape. Or 2. He doesn't know anything about how different blade shapes are made for different uses. Not sure which is the more concerning.

Then in response to how this knife, which is supposed to be made for really hard work (capabilities of a fixed blade!!1!) is disappointingly small for that task, he states (and I quote):

FFK said:
Laurence,
7 inch tactical blade would work. When it's folded some blade would stick out. Carried tip down in kydex or leather sheath with recces for blade end. Then if you needed to cut twine or rope you pull it out and use only blade protruding from end of handle. Then if you use requirements are more, deploy the full knife
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Wait, WHAT? It "would work", and then FFK goes on to display a thought process that says "Eh, we'll just make the blade longer without doing anything else to the design such as lengthening the handle to go with it, because I'm just kneejerk reacting to the question of blade length". That's what I took from this response of his. It's a knee jerk reaction that wasn't thought through. "You could just use the end of the blade sticking out to cut twine or rope!" What?! That is frankly, crap design.

Then the icing on the cake, this response:

FFK said:
The longer blade FFK version is relevant....just like a large fixed blade is relevant. Personally I prefer that no blade protrude when folded. But that is my opinion.
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So, you have a design, that you've gone so far as to pay for prototypes for, and when questioned by a few members on some knife forum, you instantly respond (as stated above) with a knee-jerk reaction concerning blade length, even going as far as suggesting a use for the huge design flaw your knee-jerk reaction has created...and then you state moments later "Well, personally, I'd prefer not to have this element in my design, an element I just suggested creating my own product to have."

This whole thing with this user is just starting to be clownshoes. You got a guy in here who obviously doesn't articulate in English very well, poorly explaining his ideas, and responding in a way that makes it clear that he doesn't completely understand what he's being asked, and then showing a thought process that suggests elements of his design can just be changed on the fly (opening up large product flaws in the process), and then makes comments that suggest that those product flaws aren't a choice he'd make personally. Like, what? Are multiple people using this account to post?

This whole thing is starting to reek, if you ask me.
 
^^ If it weren't a semi-believable train wreck it say it reeks of trolling by a band member?
 
The FFK is my design/solution to increase lateral strength in a folding knife approaching that of a fixed blade. I believe it comes very close. If you have a better idea that increases lateral strength in a folding knfe,... I am interested in hearing it.
 
FFK said:
The FFK is my design/solution to increase lateral strength in a folding knife approaching that of a fixed blade. I believe it comes very close. If you have a better idea that increases lateral strength in a folding knfe,... I am interested in hearing it.
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I'm actually interested in seeing your claim in action. I keep reading this over and over and over again. I mean, it sounds great and all, but let's actually see this concept of yours in action. As suggested before, a video is necessary to provide evidence of that, without that you are just claiming something and not putting your money where your mouth is. Otherwise, it's still just an idea in theory.

How much more discussion can be had after 15+ pages and over 300 posts? Either the wrong types of questions are being asked or the answers that are being provided are not exactly what someone wants to hear. This is what we call "Beating a Dead Horse". It seems we've discovered a solution to a virtually nonexistent problem.
 
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A Large folding knife should be strong in all directions.....ie....pushing down on spine.....up on cutting edge.....against both sides of the blade.
 
FFK said:
A Large folding knife should be strong in all directions.....ie....pushing down on spine.....up on cutting edge.....against both sides of the blade.
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Most large folding knives are this already, to be honest. Large folding knives are my favorite knife type, I have a lot of experience with quite a variety of them.
 
FFK said:
The FFK is my design/solution to increase lateral strength in a folding knife approaching that of a fixed blade. I believe it comes very close. If you have a better idea that increases lateral strength in a folding knfe,... I am interested in hearing it.
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Mike,
Well, Hmmm? You have heard my better ideas as far as taking your baby of this locking system into a useable knife that your locking system would apply to.
1) Trash that uncomfortable handle and make one that not only is comfortable but is the same length as your blade.
2) Give the knife a Bowie type blade profile of 7-9" because you said you want this to be a hard use field/Camp knife.
3) Do some real world vids of putting this knife and locking system to work!

I do have one other question, many hear seem to think that you are a knife maker.

Have you ever made a knife from start to finish with your own two hands? Or have you just done some puter work and then paid to have some lab build it for you?
 
FFK said:
The FFK is my design/solution to increase lateral strength in a folding knife approaching that of a fixed blade. I believe it comes very close. If you have a better idea that increases lateral strength in a folding knfe,... I am interested in hearing it.
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Oh for Scagel's sake. You are the "knife maker" making all these claims. We aren't.

This is the craziest thread I have ever seen. I've been chided for claiming someone who has shown no evidence has no evidence, and have been asked to show evidence that he has no evidence. Now FFK is replying to the feedback that he asked for with "Well...you got a better idea?"

This is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs crazy.

I'm starting to think the same thing Rhinoknives is thinking. And I'll even go a step further. I'm not seeing any real evidence that FFK has actually used his prototype to do anything other than gingerly stick it in a deck.

Bizarre.

I'm making a final statement and bailing out before I bust a blood vessel in my brain.

To me, the fact that FFK came in here in Part 1 extoling this cockamamie contraption while pretending it wasn't his, is my takeaway from this whole mishegas. That part might easily be forgotten.
 
marcinek said:
Oh for Scagel's sake. You are the "knife maker" making all these claims. We aren't.

This is the craziest thread I have ever seen. I've been chided for claiming someone who has shown no evidence has no evidence, and have been asked to show evidence that he has no evidence. Now FFK is replying to the feedback that he asked for with "Well...you got a better idea?"

This is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs crazy.

I'm starting to think the same thing Rhinoknives is thinking. And I'll even go a step further. I'm not seeing any real evidence that FFK has actually used his prototype to do anything other than gingerly stick it in a deck.

Bizarre.

I'm making a final statement and bailing out before I bust a blood vessel in my brain.

To me, the fact that FFK came in here in Part 1 extoling this cockamamie contraption while pretending it wasn't his, is my takeaway from this whole mishegas. That part might easily be forgotten.
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That's another factor that kind of supports my growing theory that there are multiple people using the FFK account to post. :thumbup:
 
ASBOB said:
Strictly on the question of a folding knife in a belt sheath, the Buck 110 (and its innumerable clones) was often carried in a belt sheath.

http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_store.html?ttl=Knifecenter Belt Sheaths&a=sheath&b=belt&


Chris Reeve also posts belt sheaths on his web site.

http://www.chrisreeve.com/Extras
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Some of my favorite folding knives are Bucks and Kershaws carried in belt sheaths honestly... but I don't need to carry them in a belt pouch because the blade is still sticking out the handle.... so that's the difference I see and why I felt like commenting on it... I feel those are two very different things. That's just me though.
 
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