survival gun thread

[RescueRiley]

Rock
Awesome collection
how much accuracy d you get out of that 22 bore insert?
if you ever want to sell your 24 hit a brother up.

 

[ROCK6]

Dang ROCK6, that's a lot of firepower.

I have wanted one of those M6 Scouts ever since I saw you post about one a long while back, but they are really hard to find.

We may have to schedule a Georgia WSS shooting event in the future...I only have two trigger fingers

I really wish Springfield/CZ would bring the M6 Scouts back. Even though they are a niche rifle, they are quite effective and well built.

ROCK6

 

[Runs With Scissors]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Firearms/DSC0

For a larger caliber, I really like the Savage Scout .308, topped with a Burris Scout Scope and a couple of 10 round Sharp Shooter Supply magazines:

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/ROCK-6/Firearms/DSC04214.jpg


ROCK6

Thanks for that pic and info!! I've had a Savage Scout I've shot and hunted for six or seven years, and I've always wanted to have the option of higher cap mags for it. It looks like the Acme conversions are a high quality option.


As for my survival guns? Hmmm...When playing in the woods here in Alaska, I usually carry my Freedom Arms model 83 in .454 Casull. Not real good for long term survival, or supplementing meals with small, furry woodland critters, but it'll help me survive an encounter with a pissed off bear, or let me poach a moose, coyote, or whatever if need be.

I've also got a Ruger 22/45 and a Browning Buckmark with the Pac-lite uppers, but I never get around to carrying them. If I ever carry something besides my Freedom Arms or a 1911 in the woods, it's because I'm actively hunting. (Those two rifles would be either my Savage Scout, or my Finnish M-39 Mosin Nagant)

 

[ROCK6]

Rock
Awesome collection
how much accuracy d you get out of that 22 bore insert?
if you ever want to sell your 24 hit a brother up.

I've only done the backyard test and need to really see what it's capable of. I don't expect much, but the insert is rifled which suprised me. I'm hoping to test it out next week.

The model 24 Camper is a sweet piece...what a combo should be and nothing like the newer Savage combo guns. I do need to have a good gunsmith check the front stock grip...it's a quick detach, but doesn't have the most secure attachment. It's great on from the bench, but I need to get it fixed before taking it deeper into the woods.

ROCK6

 

[erik the red]

Trying to narrow it down between a Henry U.S. Survival Rifle, a Marlin Model 70PSS Papoose, a Grade I Browning Semi-Auto .22 SA-22 or a Stevens Model 30 Favorite.

Any advice?

 

[RescueRiley]

Personally I'd go with the stevens..but I like single shot guns.... THe papoose is a hell of a gun.. I 've had bad experiences with the Henry us Survival rifle though

 

[ROCK6]

Trying to narrow it down between a Henry U.S. Survival Rifle, a Marlin Model 70PSS Papoose, a Grade I Browning Semi-Auto .22 SA-22 or a Stevens Model 30 Favorite.

Any advice?

I'm just not a big fan of the Charter AR7/Henry Survival Rifle; just too many reliability issues from what I've experienced. There are some good ones out there, but I've fired three different ones and all had feeding issues.

The Marlin Papoose is a much better option for a comparable sized .22 rifle. It also has a nice bolt hold open and release. I've never had a jam with about a half-dozen different types of .22LR ammo. I would highly recommend it over the Henry AR7 version.

The Browning SA-22 would probably be the most refined and accurate. Price is a little high, but it's a very traditional and functional .22LR.

I just saw they are making new Stevens Favorite 30 .22LR single shots...those are just plain sweet! I could only imagine that would be a very good field .22LR for plinking and hunting.

Other than the Henry, I don't think you could go wrong with the other three...

ROCK6

 

[deepfry]

I have a Henry survival rifle and I like it for what its made for. It is very picky about what ammo it likes though.
I've never had any feeding issues using cci mini-mags but anything lower velocity almost invariably causes jams.

 

[Briarbrow]

I guess there's not what you'd really call a survival gun here either.

The t/c rifle barrel is 7-30 waters, the 10 inch; 44 mag. What I'd really like is a long octagon .22lr barrel but they never made those.

The Savage 22/410 bore is maybe an okay choice but is a bit heavy for what you get imho/ unless you want bombproof fool proof reliability-it's pretty close.

the other is a Springfield 22lr in rough shape. I think it might be something to chop on-further minimalize to as small as functionally legal . I dont know how well it shoots though

Edit: I thought I had that pic thing figured out

 

[CoyotePhysics]

There hasn't been much love for the side arms so far. Admittedly, I would rather have a rifle, but for something that can be strapped to a pack it is hard to beat a mk II or a 629.

 

[crossada]

There hasn't been much love for the side arms so far. Admittedly, I would rather have a rifle, but for something that can be strapped to a pack it is hard to beat a mk II or a 629.

I had one of those S&W chambered in .22 but traded it off for a Ruger Single Six. Much lighter package. No pic of it but have one saved of the Smith

 

[jarringjarred]

In response to Scottmans thread I just wanted start a post your survival gun thread
Here's a few pics of mine although admittedly it is more of a small game harvester than a survival gun
its a stainless Rossi matched pair in .22 lr and .410
Here's a pic of the assembled firearm with the .410 barre; in place

here's a close up of the butt stock shell holder

an small pouch on the front of the strap holds ammo for the .22 as well a as a smal knife for small game duty

Here's the disassembled Fire arm with a bk7 for size comparison

and here it is in the case again with a bk7 for size comparison

Let see yours..

I have youth version of that same rossi with the .410 barrel. I bought the youth version because its smaller and size and weight make it a great backpacking gun. Its small and light enough that it can easily be shot one handed and accuracy with the .410 seems to be acceptable. I've thought about getting the .22 barrel as well, but haven't yet convinced myself its worthwhile. Now I may have to get the other barrel.

 

[Bigdumplings]

I am pretty sure that is the youth model... as i have the same one just not stainless... Good little backpacking rifle (and at this point in time my only boomstick)

 

[jonnyt16]

ROCK6, very impressive. Nice Hi-Power I see there too...with VZ grips? Good stuff! Just curious, why all the low-capacity mags on your ARs?

Anwyay, I'm glad this thread came up because I'm actually picking up my Marlin Papoose on Friday! After a bit of research I really couldn't find any negative reviews on it (as opposed to the AR7) so it will be my new backpacking and under-the-seat-of-the-Jeep gun. I got the all-black version but will probably get it Duracoated in camo by Missionspeccamo.com (they do awesome work by the way at great prices--worth checking out)

As for home-defense and zombie control, here are a few of my rigs...

Bushmaster with SureFire and Eotech goodies

MSAR STG-556 (AUG clone)

 

[Les Snyder]

ROCK6.... is the squeeze trigger on the M6 hard to get used to?

 

[nate1714]

Rock you sure have the neighborhood stocked. I like the little (guessing 22) pump.

I have always preferred 20g over 410g. First its cheaper and second it seems to be more available.

 

[lukus]

Good timing on this thread. This is related.

I've been wanting the Bianchi speed strips for .22. I've looked, but Bianchi doesn't make them for .22. I know I've seen one in a picture, think it was in a thread on this forum about the S&W 317 revolvers. I have just found them, they are Tuff Products Quickstrips. Midway USA has them, but if you get them from Tuff Products web site, they have them in a bunch of colors including blaze orange.

Does anyone have these? Are they comparable to the Bianchi product?

lukus

 

[ivan51]

ROCK6.... is the squeeze trigger on the M6 hard to get used to?

I have 2 M6's one .22mag/.410 and .22/.410 the trigger is not bad at all.

 

[August West]

Just to change things up, actually I would more than likely pick my cz452, it is a one whole rifle at 50 yds, with subsonics it sounds suppressed and I have killed too much small game with it at 100 yards plus for it to be an accident. I will not confirm nor deny that it may or may not have taken a couple of large game as well. I don't have a pic of it and it is about 7000 miles away from me but a google search will bring up lots of pics.

I have zombie killers as well but for getting chow and staying under the radar my cz and probably my glock 19 would get the nod, although my 22/45 ruger with a tactical solutions upper might find it's way into my pack as well.

 

[ROCK6]

ROCK6, very impressive. Nice Hi-Power I see there too...with VZ grips? Good stuff! Just curious, why all the low-capacity mags on your ARs?

Anyway, I'm glad this thread came up because I'm actually picking up my Marlin Papoose on Friday! After a bit of research I really couldn't find any negative reviews on it (as opposed to the AR7) so it will be my new backpacking and under-the-seat-of-the-Jeep gun. I got the all-black version but will probably get it Duracoated in camo by Missionspeccamo.com (they do awesome work by the way at great prices--worth checking out)

Actually the BHP has G10 grips from Mil-Tac. The G10 is very thin, but really make the BHP grip melt into my hand...good eye though; I've got VZ grips on my Kimber 45 and really like them as well.

Nice looking AR and MSAR. I've always like the AUG after shooting one with some Aussies we did an exercise with several years ago. As to the 20 round mags...they just fit better in the safe; plenty of USGI and Mag Puls to go around if needed

ROCK6.... is the squeeze trigger on the M6 hard to get used to?

As ivan51 mentioned, the trigger isn't hard to get use to. I still use my trigger finger and instead of pulling straight back, you just pull up and back a little.

Rock you sure have the neighborhood stocked. I like the little (guessing 22) pump.

I have always preferred 20g over 410g. First its cheaper and second it seems to be more available.

That little .22 Pump is pretty neat. Taurus did a rendition of the old Model 62 pump .22. They are unfortunately discontinued, but I originally picked it up for my son (it's the youth model). It's well built and breaks down...a neat feature.

I agree, I think 20ga is more versatile than .410, but (despite the cost for shells), the diminutive .410 is a fun little shot round and easier to carry extra shells. I really don't care for the slugs (very inaccurate in my M6), but I like the buckshot, #4 and #6 shot rounds for small game.

Good timing on this thread. This is related.

I've been wanting the Bianchi speed strips for .22. I've looked, but Bianchi doesn't make them for .22. I know I've seen one in a picture, think it was in a thread on this forum about the S&W 317 revolvers. I have just found them, they are Tuff Products Quickstrips. Midway USA has them, but if you get them from Tuff Products web site, they have them in a bunch of colors including blaze orange.

Does anyone have these? Are they comparable to the Bianchi product?

lukus

I recently picked up some of the .22LR Tuff Quick-strips. I've been using them for .38/.357 (5, 6 and 7 round versions) and .44SPL rounds (which also can be used to carry .410 rounds). They are very well built and comparable if not better than the Bianchi speed strips. I picked up the .22LR versions for my S&W 317 and they work like a charm. I really like to pack them like this so they're not rattling in a box or loose in the pocket. Give them a shot, I'm pretty sure you'll be quite satisfied.

ROCK6