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Survival Situation: 3-$100 or 1-$300 knife
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grobe said:
Aren't we grasping at straws bringing up a $99.99 blade in a $100 knife limit scenario
How about a $50 blade.Another one with reading comprehension issues LMAO.
I said it wouldn't hold up to a Busse type products ability because its missing that companies heat treat not to mention grind etc...
Is it a beater type product? Yes
Will it hold up to a lot of abuse? Yes.
Will it outperform a Busse? No
Given the choice between a Ranger and a Busse I choose Busse any day any time.
Given a choice betweeen a ranger and a Becker I choose ranger every time.
Not syaing a Ranger wont do a job but there are better options out there but NON better for $99.99 exactly.
Skam
grobe said:the limit is $100 and the ranger falls into that category. sorry if you don't like it. the original poster said $100, not $50
So has the maturity. The limit is $100 so there. (In that little kids whiney voice)
It is entertaining tho LMAO
Skam
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i don't understand why you have to resort to "little kids whiney voice" and other sarcasm in your posts because people disagree with you.
part of forums like this is ones ability to explain and justify their preferences. when you use the "roll eyes" smilie and sarcastic posts it belittles us all.
3 for me.
thats all
i don't understand why you have to resort to "little kids whiney voice" and other sarcasm in your posts because people disagree with you.
part of forums like this is ones ability to explain and justify their preferences. when you use the "roll eyes" smilie and sarcastic posts it belittles us all.
3 for me.
thats all
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allenC said:
You had no problem calling him lots of other things :
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3283397&postcount=66
Kind of difficult to complain about lack of respect when you throw it away first.
skammer said:
Eight dollar mountain foundry have some at 75$, look solid, have never used them, but they did recieve some solid recommendations from people who I respect.
-Cliff
I would take 1 $300.00 forged carbon blade dif tempered over 3+ factory knives. Lifetime or no questions warranties mean little in the middle of nowhere, especially when the manufacturer is playing the numbers game. Take Ultimate Survival (U.S from now on)and their Blastmatch (BM from now on). U.S offer to replace the item free to whomsoever wears it out, a wear out guarantee if you like. I use my BM exclusively for fires and even starting a BBQ at home, I take the time to shave enough wood for a decent tinder and becasue of this my BM is about 50% worn out in less than a year. U.S are playing the odds game, they know 99.9999% of people will never use their BM to the point where it can be sent in for a replacement. I feel a lot of knife manufacturers do the same.
Weight as previously mentioned is also of concern, a well thought out size and shape can get rid of uneccessary material. Splitting logs can be started with a blade and finished with carved wedges. I honestly dont see a situation where you simply must split logs by prying. If you do then you have enough energy left that dying isnt imminent and if you dont then I dont think you would have enough energy to complete the job. You can always get a smaller fire going and dry out damp wood, You can always access the dryer stuff inside without putting a lumberjack to shame by making a canoe attack approach. You can then split off thinner pieces and dry them over the small fire you have going.
I'm not saying that a $100.00 knife will not do the job a $300+ will, what I am thinking of is the materials, time spent on the blade, the profit margin, the dealers cut the retail cut to bring you to $100. Essentially you are looking at a $20.00 knife.
just my 2 yen
Weight as previously mentioned is also of concern, a well thought out size and shape can get rid of uneccessary material. Splitting logs can be started with a blade and finished with carved wedges. I honestly dont see a situation where you simply must split logs by prying. If you do then you have enough energy left that dying isnt imminent and if you dont then I dont think you would have enough energy to complete the job. You can always get a smaller fire going and dry out damp wood, You can always access the dryer stuff inside without putting a lumberjack to shame by making a canoe attack approach. You can then split off thinner pieces and dry them over the small fire you have going.
I'm not saying that a $100.00 knife will not do the job a $300+ will, what I am thinking of is the materials, time spent on the blade, the profit margin, the dealers cut the retail cut to bring you to $100. Essentially you are looking at a $20.00 knife.
just my 2 yen
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Temper said:
I don't see this as where you decide to skimp either, it isn't like you have to buy more than one in a lifetime, your life could depend on it.
There are always alternatives, the mentioned direct prying approach is much faster than wedges.
In essense you can do everything that needs done with any knife, or even without a knife, the more knife you have the easier it gets.
For example if I had to break apart a stump to get pitchwood, it is trivial with a stout blade, if the knife can't do it you need to :
1) carve the wood out
2) carve out a notch and use a rock/stick to split
The first takes a *long* time, the second can be difficult in many conditions, think snowy winter.
The other alternative is to use another source of tinder, and there are usually alternatives, but now again you have limited yourself.
It isn't impossibly to find knives which can do these things and still cut and chop well.
It isn't like you are choosing between a club and a lightsabre.
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I think there should be a per thread limit on use of the "sarcastic" smiley.
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You guys crack me up :barf:
I am in amazement how the early settlers and the plains Indians got along for so long with out $300.00 knives. If you can spend the money good for you. I would be just fine with a $20.00 cold steel bushman. Know YOUR limitations, and your equipments, you will survive alot longer.
I am in amazement how the early settlers and the plains Indians got along for so long with out $300.00 knives. If you can spend the money good for you. I would be just fine with a $20.00 cold steel bushman. Know YOUR limitations, and your equipments, you will survive alot longer.
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I knew an ole boy once who claimed he was just "plain spoken." His favorite "plan speech" was to disagree with someone's point by calling it "stupid." (Actually, more like "stoooo'ped.")
But using language like "stupid" -- or "absurd," "bizarre," and "naive" -- does not impress nearly as well as facts and logic. (In fact, politely sticking to your guns can drive some nuts. Right?)
But it's true. It's a free country. Anyone can behave as they wish and be judged accordingly. Of course, "static" can get in the way of the message.
Sorting through the invective, there has been some good information exchanged here -- for those who bothered to read after the first "shots" were exchanged.
But using language like "stupid" -- or "absurd," "bizarre," and "naive" -- does not impress nearly as well as facts and logic. (In fact, politely sticking to your guns can drive some nuts. Right?)
But it's true. It's a free country. Anyone can behave as they wish and be judged accordingly. Of course, "static" can get in the way of the message.
Sorting through the invective, there has been some good information exchanged here -- for those who bothered to read after the first "shots" were exchanged.
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