Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

AbjectTestament said:
That's an incredibly disingenuous interpretation of what I said. Also what was the name of the plaintiff that took Survive! to court that you mentioned?


I wish. I just canceled my orders because it took too long.


:eek:

Sure they can. Survive! sends out an email/SM post that they currently have X number of blades in stock that are available.
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Only an idiot would believe anything from survive after reading this thread.
AbjectTestament said:
:eek:

The information about having knives in stock was accurate. I bought a few of them like this. Shipped fast too.

This is true.
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Again, survive lies. They do whatever they want, when they want, and only in the interest of self preservation. They might have what they say and you might get it, but they certainly don't do this regularly. Have you read about their history.
AbjectTestament said:
Like your repetitive posts droning on and on with the same recycled commentary. I feel your pain.
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Careful shill, you don't want to get into a pissing contest with anyone over who adds value.
 
MolokaiRider said:
Taking a company to court for 300 bucks is incredibly time consuming and stressful. I have had to fight for far more money and after fees and time lost it became a nightmare.

A far better solution is to don't do business with Ponzi schemes and share the word to unsuspecting potential customers.
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Indeed. And this is what the small time con-artists banks on. Each individual won't really do anything about survive ripping them off, legally. The only way to really fight the conman is to spread word about what they do. This is why the misinformation campaign survive constantly fights (look guys, we've turned it around!), including with our resident shill, is so important to bringing in new customers. The uninformed are the key to the con.
 
Will they allow cancelation of orders down the line? I'll give my orders six months maximum, then I will cancel if they aren't shipped by then.

I waited five years for my Randall 1-8" because I really wanted one, but that will probably be the last Randall that I order. I'm not waiting for a knife that long anymore.
 
AbjectTestament said:
That's an incredibly disingenuous interpretation of what I said. Also what was the name of the plaintiff that took Survive! to court that you mentioned?
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You’re calling me disingenuous … :eek:

Don’t hold your breath, I’m not doing your work for you. At least one individual is right here in this thread, which you’d know if you’d actually bothered to read it. But that’s not what you’re really here for, is it.
 
K Williams said:
Will they allow cancelation of orders down the line? I'll give my orders six months maximum, then I will cancel if they aren't shipped by then.

I waited five years for my Randall 1-8" because I really wanted one, but that will probably be the last Randall that I order. I'm not waiting for a knife that long anymore.
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They might. There have been times when they charged a fee and or banned you from ordering again. There have been times when it was impossible to get a refund. There have been times when it took months to get refunds. There was also the time paypal froze all their assets with them because of the amount of refund requests and paypal wanted to ensure there was money for all those and future requests.

It is a complete crap shoot and what happened in the past along with what is happening now, means nothing as to what will happen in the future. Survive lies and does what they want. They could also fold up tomorrow.

My advice is get a refund now and spend your money with decent hard working non-con-artists. Way to many good companies and makers out there than to lend these scammers your money.

Randall was up front about your wait time and didn't require full payment. Survive is not and they do. Huge difference.
 
AbjectTestament said:
Like your repetitive posts droning on and on with the same recycled commentary. I feel your pain.
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All my posts are relevant to what S!K is currently doing. I keep saying many of the same things because S!K is still providing inaccurate information regarding when orders will be filled, infrequently answering the phone or replying to emails (according to many MANY frustrated customers) and making it challenging for customers to get refunds. They also are still taking orders for knives that are not complete, despite saying multiple times that they were going to stop doing that. It has been almost a decade since S!K started their business, and they continue to have many of the same issues / do many of the same things.

You are a shill that is here to support Guy and Ellie.
 
ncrockclimb said:
All my posts are relevant to what S!K is currently doing. I keep saying many of the same things because S!K is still providing inaccurate information regarding when orders will be filled, infrequently answering the phone or replying to emails (according to many MANY frustrated customers) and making it challenging for customers to get refunds. They also are still taking orders for knives that are not complete, despite saying multiple times that they were going to stop doing that. It has been almost a decade since S!K started their business, and they continue to have many of the same issues / do many of the same things.

You are a shill that is here to support Guy and Ellie.
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We'll stop recycling the commentary if survive stops pulling the same con over and over and over again.
 
K Williams said:
Will they allow cancelation of orders down the line? I'll give my orders six months maximum, then I will cancel if they aren't shipped by then.
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They will yes. It sounds like they gave people a hard time in the past for canceling orders (including mentioning it in a video) but people canceling lately appear to have no major issues.
I would get a screen capture of the shipping timelines so you can reference if it you need to involve your credit card company. It probably wouldn't hurt to get something in writing to the credit card company too.

Danny Linguini said:
You’re calling me disingenuous …
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Pay attention to details Danny. I said you're making a disingenuous interpretation of what I said. I don't know you well enough to say whether or not you're a disingenuous person.
Danny Linguini said:
Don’t hold your breath, I’m not doing your work for you.
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The old make a claim then respond with "do your own research" when someone asks you to cite your sources. A real classic.
ncrockclimb said:
You are a shill that is here to support Guy and Ellie.
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You're a shill
Don't buy Survive Knives, call the police on them for theft, take them to court
You're a shill
Don't buy Survive Knives, call the police on them for theft, take them to court
You're a shill
 
AbjectTestament said:
They will yes. It sounds like they gave people a hard time in the past for canceling orders (including mentioning it in a video) but people canceling lately appear to have no major issues.
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How do you know they will allow cancellations down the line? Go ahead, explain that one.

By "give a hard time" you mean ignoring their request for a refund until financial institutions had to get involved and charging a "restocking" fee on knives that were years away from being made, if ever. And threatening to ban people who cancel from ever being allowed to order again. What a joke.

But go ahead shill, just keep on downplaying everything bad survive has done. Makes you look exactly like what we are calling you, shill.
 
AbjectTestament said:
They will yes. It sounds like they gave people a hard time in the past for canceling orders (including mentioning it in a video) but people canceling lately appear to have no major issues.
I would get a screen capture of the shipping timelines so you can reference if it you need to involve your credit card company. It probably wouldn't hurt to get something in writing to the credit card company too.
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You do not know this. There are numerous recent social media posts from customers that are having a difficult time canceling orders.

On 10/18 of this year on FB a customer posted "Since you won't answer my calls, tell Jasper to cancel my 10 month old order of a 2.7" and send me a refund. NOW!" I will not waste my time finding more, but there are other similar posts.

Again, you are a shill.
 
ncrockclimb said:
On 10/18 of this year on FB a customer posted "Since you won't answer my calls, tell Jasper to cancel my 10 month old order of a 2.7" and send me a refund. NOW!" I will not waste my time finding more, but there are other similar posts.
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Maybe I'm wrong and people are having a difficult time. What FB group/page did you see this on?
 
ncrockclimb said:
There's no "maybe" about it. You are a shill and cannot provide any evidence to support your assertion that S!K has improved their customer service / how they handle refunds.
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So in other words "do your own research" when you're asked to cite your source. I'm shocked ;)
Let me know if you ever discover emotional intelligence and feel like applying it to a discussion.
 
Foghorn Leghorn Fan said:
Absolutely, if 155 pages / 3000+ posts in this thread don't convince you of what Survive is up to, nothing ever will and no one should waste their time with your trolling nonsense.
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Straw man. I've commented multiple times in this thread about the appearance of shady and misleading business practices by Survive! including selling preorders then selling factory seconds before those per-orders are fulfilled. I've offered explanations such as Survive! gambling on the fact people who waited 6 years will wait 7 so they can sell new orders for more money while very slowly fulfilling the old orders.

Try again.
 
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