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Discussion in 'FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly!' started by ncrockclimb, Sep 27, 2018.

  1. Sagemode

    Sagemode

    67
    Jul 10, 2017
    So they can't get the GSO out which is why the SK series were going to be made yet not a single one has shipped yet so now they are going to add another line of blades that "should ship" in 4 months time. Yea the SK series were suppose to ship withing 8 months and nearly 3 years later not a single one has. They also have add several new models to the line too. Oh and get this if you are tired of the GSO wait then sign up for the SK series which is the same thing but they are going to say when you transferred to it then you'll have to wait just a tad bit longer but not as long as for the GSO line. All models are in production but 3 years + for GSO 5.1 and others have not started. Yep keep sending them cash folks and someday when the sky is purple and the dragons from planet Guy comes by you'll get your blades.
     
  2. rxavage

    rxavage

    955
    Aug 16, 2014
    This will all be water under the bridge by the end of 2025...
     
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  3. ndmiller

    ndmiller Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Nov 30, 2015
    That feels like a pretty firm commitment on being 1/2 decade late.
     
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  4. Boru13

    Boru13 Super Moderator Staff Member Super Mod Moderator

    Apr 25, 2000
    :rolleyes:... That's code for "how to generate more income".
     
  5. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 29, 2010
    I think they are counting on getting deposits from people who were too young to remember when this started to be an issues.....there is a kid in day care right now who will one day pay his pre-order and turn up here asking where is knife is....
     
  6. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    ELP!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
    Survive.
    :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:
     
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  7. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    What an absolute embarrassment.
     
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  8. danbot

    danbot Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    Hahahahaha! "Re-evaluating our business model". :rolleyes:

    Whatever you do, DO NOT change any of the things that pissed off your customers and made your business look like a ponzie scheme! :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Dadpool

    Dadpool Gold Member Gold Member

    May 18, 2015
    If that 11/1 announcement was someone's first contact with Survive knives, with zero prior knowledge of all of their issues, it would look pretty good.

    It reads like a small company trying their best to meet unexpected demand, puts every negative in a positive light ("my only flaw is that I care too much," basically), and makes them sound like good guys -- all while neatly avoiding putting any delays into context, never mind mentioning how many years some folks have waited or how many false promises litter the company's history.

    I'm impressed and appalled by the level of PR craft this announcement displays. Impressed because it's really hard to gild a turd this massive, appalled because it seems likely to succeed at attracting new marks. :thumbsdown:
     
  10. ncrockclimb

    ncrockclimb

    Nov 20, 2014
    That has been one of the biggest issues I have with the S!K BS and the fanboi cult that supports them. Many objective observers agree that the S!K would quickly go out of business without the continued cash provided by new customers. However, most potential customers would NEVER give S!K any money if they understood Guy and Ellie's history. S!K does everything possible to obfuscate their past while the fanbois cheer them on, thus perpetuating and growing what appears to be an unsustainable business model that will not end well.
     
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  11. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Platinum Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    I have to confess that I don't understand how Millit even got involved with them. However, I know that their stock has taken a huge hit in my eyes. If they're willing to get in bed with a scumbag like Guy, then who knows what else they're willing to do to make a buck. Therefore, I DO enjoy that they're essentially being thrown under the bus in this garbage "newsletter". After all, they're going to become yet another excuse for S?K to make when they don't deliver. "Well, see, unfortunately Millit is pretty backed up right now, so we're just waiting for...." It's going to be great.

    The whole garbage newsletter is an absolute travesty, not to mention, it's absolutely identical to the "updates" they've been posting for years. They were saying these same things five years ago, then virtually annually up until their section got shut down. It isn't worth what it's printed on.

    "Well, I mean, it's on the internet, sooo..."

    Exactly. Now you're getting it.
     
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  12. Insipid Moniker

    Insipid Moniker Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 28, 2011
    It's a lesson about always being careful who you deal with. One of the few pieces of advice that's actually served me well is a two-parter 1. Everyone thinks they're a good judge of character. 2. NOBODY is a good judge of character. Folks that run scams, abuse and take advantage of people generally aren't who you think. Usually they come off as the nicest, most honest, salt of the Earth people imaginable, but Guy has shown us all who he really is with the way his business is run.
     
  13. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Agreed.

    The real problem becomes when other folks take up for scammers like survive. Even with the blatantly obvious information that survive is in fact a bad and scamming organization, people here defended them for years, enabling survive to scam more people.

    Those enablers either turned coat once the shit hit the fan or left.

    Fanaticism is a funny thing.
     
  14. ncrockclimb

    ncrockclimb

    Nov 20, 2014
    More S!K BS...

    From their 11/5/2019 email "Updating Our Recent Update":

    "The People Have Spoken....
    And what you're telling us is that you really, REALLY don't want the budget oriented Essential Series. Thankfully, by unveiling these new models early and offering preproduction ordering we were able to gauge interest (or lack thereof) and discontinue the now defunct series before it even begins. Instead we'll reallocate these materials to projects that people are genuinely interested in. A huge thanks to everyone who called and emailed in support of the SK and GSO Series knives, the feedback is most appreciated! As a small manufacturer, your input helped us to avoid disaster.

    So what now?!
    Instead of launching the Essential Series, it is now our intention to more aggressively scale up production of the SK Series. Additionally, we will be making investments to optimize the GSO Series production. Without the Essential Series to help pave the way toward increasing production, we will be offering SK Series Preordering, as well as some limited GSO Series Preordering to assist with this growth. We have the steel and materials already in house, so there will be no delay in getting production started.

    What's Available?
    From the SK Series, preordering is now available for the tried and true SK-4.1 as well as the freshly revised SK-2.7. Production is starting immediately for these two models.

    We are also offering GSO Series preordering for models currently in production. These are strictly limited to the number of orders that have been previously refunded and will be capped at the amount of slots originally allotted for those preorders.

    Additional GSO models will be available for preordering once we are a bit further along with fulfilling existing orders.

    See All Available Now
    SK-4.1
    SK-4.1
    $234.00
    View
    GSO-12
    GSO-12
    $429.00
    View
    GSO-6
    GSO-6
    $279.00
    View
    How long will I be waiting?
    As we stated in our previous newsletter, all of our older production issues are now solidly behind us and we're increasing capacity to better serve you. While one thing or another always comes up in manufacturing, we should no longer be facing any issues that will significantly delay production.

    With all major manufacturing processes now under one roof, we feel very confident saying all current GSO preorder models will be delivered by the end of 2020, at the very latest. The models furthest along in production right now will begin arriving the soonest but we're going to make every effort to get all preorders delivered as quickly as possible. As batches return from heat treat we will begin posting estimated completion windows for each model."
     
  15. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 29, 2010
    For F$#k Sakes....
     
  16. rxavage

    rxavage

    955
    Aug 16, 2014
    Wow. No one was interested in loaning them more money for nonexistent product so they decide to focus on more preorders of their previous commitments they haven’t met yet and were all too eager to wash their hands of? Am I reading this correctly?
     
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  17. Quiet

    Quiet "That guy" Platinum Member

    Oct 11, 2013
    Wait...what?! "we will be offering SK Series Preordering, as well as some limited GSO Series Preordering to assist with this growth."

    Ok, someone walk me through this. So, they've got a ton of people ALREADY (claps hands) EFFING (claps hands) WAITING (claps mothersmurfing hands) FOR KNIVES...for years, YEARS now....and yet, somehow taking MORE preorders will help with increasing production?!

    WAT.
     
  18. Andy the Aussie

    Andy the Aussie Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jan 29, 2010
    ......since his appearance on GoT the Sharpening Dragon has been asking for more $s....gotta fleece that of the gullible somehow....they may have to reconsider the virgins though.....they could change this to "only been around a bit"....that or they need to start using Teen Gamers....rumor has it they don't get out enough to get laid...
     
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  19. palonej

    palonej Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Aug 5, 2015
    There are no words.
     
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  20. Worldwatcher

    Worldwatcher Gold Member Gold Member

    657
    Dec 19, 2015
    Wow! Feel even better about selling my survive knives now.
     
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