Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

brooksknives said:
What I don’t understand is why were they never charged with multiple thefts or fraud, and put in jail.
And considering the amount of people that they ripped off, I’m surprised that there was no class action lawsuit against them.
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Mostly because SO much fraud goes on daily from car insurance/home insurance/medical etc that state attorneys (or even local) have to be extremely selective about what they prosecute. I think its something like 2% of auto fraud ends up even getting prosecuted at the state level...and thats even when the insurance companies are doing most of the work for the prosecution.
 
just curious if anyone knows what happened to Guy and Ellie. I see Jon / HST is still active on YT, but cannot tell if he has actually started selling his S!K knockoffs.
 
Trying to following the linking rules…look up “heavy set knife company dot com”. I couldn’t believe how much he started selling his first lot for.
 
Jabrni said:
Trying to following the linking rules…look up “heavy set knife company dot com”. I couldn’t believe how much he started selling his first lot for.
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According to some makers who have chimed in on S!K, one of Guy’s downfalls was charging too little for his product, sending him into the death spiral that he perpetually denied until the very end. I know there’s a lot of theories that he was just criminal from the get go, but I can’t help believe that incompetence got him on his thieving road to ruin.

Objectively, HST might be doing the best thing by offering product at a higher price, which may better support him when he has setbacks.

Unrelated note…
I wonder how that beach guy is doing after eating his hat (regarding S!K) and getting tossed from BF?
 
I always come here with some popcorn in hand ready for a show when I see new post to this thread.

Yeah Guy was either in denial and incompetent of purposefully misleading we won't likely know fully the truth of it but I am always curious as to what all is happening with this story it never really feels over with others picking up to an extent what SK was trying to do or supposed to be doing.

I am curious about that other one that came in here talking about getting the equipment and iirc the dog.
 
Trust no one. (At least insofar as this pathetic saga is concerned.)
 
Blues said:
Trust no one. (At least insofar as this pathetic saga is concerned.)
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Truer words could not be said, and apparently those of us with common sense are apparently the equivalent of prophets these days. This saga is the gift that just keeps on giving unfortunately. It seems that those of us who pointed out none of the people shilling for Guy were even remotely acting in good faith were correct, but there are always people trying to justify the behavior of con artists for some reason. I remember when people tried to defend the videos from the heavyset idiot, well now it looks like he fully graduated from the Guy Seiferd school of economics:
 
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Don't think I care enough to look at the video, but the rest of the post gets a thumbs up.
 
Perfect time for Guy to slither out from under the floor boards and finish those orders. Just you wait and see.
 
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I actually have one of the HVYSET branded knives, they are a nice, however after this I don’t know if I want to own it anymore.
 
EasternShore said:
Truer words could not be said, and apparently those of us with common sense are apparently the equivalent of prophets these days. This saga is the gift that just keeps on giving unfortunately. It seems that those of us who pointed out none of the people shilling for Guy were even remotely acting in good faith were correct, but there are always people trying to justify the behavior of con artists for some reason. I remember when people tried to defend the videos from the heavyset idiot, well now it looks like he fully graduated from the Guy Seiferd school of economics:
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This surprises me not one single bit.
 
I saw the writing on the wall from day one. It always seemed like there was something fishy going on. Maybe this new company had all the right intentions, but something in the back of my mind urged caution. They really needed to have move as far away as possible to Survive! knives and its scam reputation. Guy burned way too many people for far, far too long a time, and the sad truth is he's probably going to get away with it. Everything about that brand needs to just die, needs to be deeply buried and never, ever again resurrected. If there's one thing I learned from this tragedy, is never, ever order a knife at full price (a small deposit is fine), especially from a manufacturer or maker with a reputation of super long (sometimes indefinate) wait times.
 
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