Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

couldn't watch Jon's video. he started out saying its gonna be short and sweet then talking about his birthday knife and how great it is....and all over the place. saw it was 40 minutes so i gave up.
 
I watched that just because. HST is something else. Karma is a bitch. I really want to know who these paid trolls are? 🤣🤣 This is comical. I can’t believe it.
 
Can someone pay me to troll his YT channel? I'm saving up to get in to digital photography and lenses ain't cheap.
 
jbmonkey said:
couldn't watch Jon's video. he started out saying its gonna be short and sweet then talking about his birthday knife and how great it is....and all over the place. saw it was 40 minutes so i gave up.
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That is what I thought too, but honestly, it is worth the watch. He gets very detailed about a lot of stuff.

Apparently guy has all the materials. Jon put it as "boxes and boxes of sheaths and blanks as far as the eye can see." Guy has like 16k in sheaths just sitting, and he owes the plastic people thousands of dollars. At one point, Jon said guy has like a mil in product on hand but no money to show for it. Jon slaps his head wondering where all that money went.

It seems like guy is just your typical low level con man that bit off too much this time. He's really good about planning on how to get the money, and then getting the money, but not all that interested in keeping up the process until he needs money again. He's literally just living day to day on a con game. Not much different than a street beggar. This has all been a 10 year cycle of the same con over and over. Plan, get money, fail to deliver, new plan.....

It also sounds like guy almost pulled it off again but shot himself in the foot when he showed Jon that once some money starts coming in the door, guy has very little interest in doing any more work.

Remember all those times over the years ellie and guy would tell us that they were working night and day 7 days a week no time to answer the phone, in order to get stuff done? Well, as it turns out, guy was just doing enough to keep the con going, nothing more.

Jon wouldn't say but it seems like survive is in the millions with debt. They owe money to all sorts of materials and service providers. Guy tanked their rep with all his steel drama. No reputable organization will want to have anything to do with them. It really seems like it's done.

Unless guy finds another sucker to lend him a couple hundred thousand dollars.
 
Murphjd25 said:
I really want to know who these paid trolls are?
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The same lame excuse that the other YT shills are using when they’re getting negative comments about their involvement with this fiasco.

They definitely over value their self worth to the knife community if they think someone is being paid to troll their channels.

The accusations are nothing more than an attempt to distance themselves from SK! and salvage their reputation.
 
I can’t believe we’re finally seeing the end days of S!K. Out with a bang, then a whimper.
 
Boru13 said:
The same lame excuse that the other YT shills are using when they’re getting negative comments about their involvement with this fiasco.

They definitely over value their self worth to the knife community if they think someone is being paid to troll their channels.
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I guess it’s easier to invent a cabal and make themselves the target than it is to accept some negative feedback.
 
Boru13 said:
The same lame excuse that the other YT shills are using when they’re getting negative comments about their involvement with this fiasco.

They definitely over value their self worth to the knife community if they think someone is being paid to troll their channels.

The accusations are nothing more than an attempt to distance themselves from SK! and salvage their reputation.
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It's an occams razor situation. Could it be that individuals in the knife community are giving blow back on the demise of a sham company that spent a decade blowing smoke and stealing money, which has culminated in attacks blaming many reputable knife industry leaders with outlandish crackpot theories spun by said company and various influencers?

Nope. Gotta be paid trolls.
 
craytab said:
It's an occams razor situation. Could it be that the knife community is giving blow back on the demise of a sham company that spent a decade blowing smoke and stealing money, of which culminated in the attacks on many reputable knife industry leaders with outlandish crackpot theories spun by said company and various influencers?

Nope. Gotta be paid trolls.
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“Like”

Also where’s all this money coming from, and how do I apply?
 
🤣 I mean, it’s heartless for me to say this, because there’s a bunch of people getting screwed, but at least this has been entertaining.
 
Yes now with SK flailing and dead or about dead who is the new target and how do I become one of these paid covert agents to bring down these feeble upstarts encroaching on this prized industry.
 
Doing work with the HST video in the background. Sounds like the people in this thread were 100% spot on with almost every theory on what was happening over at Survive.

Also, if anyone finds out how to get paid to troll YouTube influencers, let me know how must they pay. It much be a lucrative offer since these guys think all the negative comments are from paid trolls.

If they make as much as the mods on BF, then I'll pass.
 
craytab said:
That is what I thought too, but honestly, it is worth the watch. He gets very detailed about a lot of stuff.

Apparently guy has all the materials. Jon put it as "boxes and boxes of sheaths and blanks as far as the eye can see." Guy has like 16k in sheaths just sitting, and he owes the plastic people thousands of dollars. At one point, Jon said guy has like a mil in product on hand but no money to show for it. Jon slaps his head wondering where all that money went.

It seems like guy is just your typical low level con man that bit off too much this time. He's really good about planning on how to get the money, and then getting the money, but not all that interested in keeping up the process until he needs money again. He's literally just living day to day on a con game. Not much different than a street beggar. This has all been a 10 year cycle of the same con over and over. Plan, get money, fail to deliver, new plan.....

It also sounds like guy almost pulled it off again but shot himself in the foot when he showed Jon that once some money starts coming in the door, guy has very little interest in doing any more work.

Remember all those times over the years ellie and guy would tell us that they were working night and day 7 days a week no time to answer the phone, in order to get stuff done? Well, as it turns out, guy was just doing enough to keep the con going, nothing more.

Jon wouldn't say but it seems like survive is in the millions with debt. They owe money to all sorts of materials and service providers. Guy tanked their rep with all his steel drama. No reputable organization will want to have anything to do with them. It really seems like it's done.

Unless guy finds another sucker to lend him a couple hundred thousand dollars.
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Yeah that pisses me off even more. My knife and thousands of others are just sitting there waiting to be finished up. Fuck me I guess. It still blows my mind how the business side could be run so poorly. It's not like he came up with something that didn't work. They had lots of people that wanted to buy their product...and paid up front. They must have taken on some really bad loans. It sure doesn't sound like they have anything to show for the last10 years. When you give your dog away, things are bad.
 
kane22 said:
Yeah that pisses me off even more. My knife and thousands of others are just sitting there waiting to be finished up. Fuck me I guess. It still blows my mind how the business side could be run so poorly. It's not like he came up with something that didn't work. They had lots of people that wanted to buy their product...and paid up front. They must have taken on some really bad loans. It sure doesn't sound like they have anything to show for the last10 years. When you give your dog away, things are bad.
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That got me too. He says there are pallets of all the parts needed to complete knives, but Guy has to touch the knife at the beginning of the process to do something, again in the middle of the process, and then at the end to sharpen it. No one else is allowed and Guy would work 2 days and then go off on social media or take a walk and just not do the work. So all these knives could have been finished years ago if Guy would have just done his part, but he flaked out like he is bipolar or something.
 
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