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There is some weird shiit going on on the Bay... there are 4 different Survive knives being bid up pretty far, 3 of the 4 sold by the same entity. One of the knives, a 5.1 2nds in Magnacut is 37 bids in at 970$

What the actual fuq? :oops:
 
veritas said:
There is some weird shiit going on on the Bay... there are 4 different Survive knives being bid up pretty far, 3 of the 4 sold by the same entity. One of the knives, a 5.1 2nds in Magnacut is 37 bids in at 970$

What the actual fuq? :oops:
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People already spent money on a knife they never got, why not spend 2x to actually get one?
 
I have no proof that this is happening. That’s a disclaimer. I can imagine a sleazy person that had access to a bunch of blades putting them on eBay and trying to run up the price. It could be a quick way to generate a few dollars or a trip out of the country.
 
veritas said:
There is some weird shiit going on on the Bay... there are 4 different Survive knives being bid up pretty far, 3 of the 4 sold by the same entity. One of the knives, a 5.1 2nds in Magnacut is 37 bids in at 970$

What the actual fuq? :oops:
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I’m sure it’s the classic flipper logic. Scarcity driving up the cost and whatnot.
I expected this would happen. It’s stupid, but whatever.
 
EngrSorenson said:
I’m sure it’s the classic flipper logic. Scarcity driving up the cost and whatnot.
I expected this would happen. It’s stupid, but whatever.
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I think the same thing happened with Dan Koster (same scum, different bag) and his knives when his fraud op folded.
 
Quiet said:
I candidly feel you are giving Guy too much credit. There have been plenty of instances in the decade or so of this Scumbag!Knives debacle where it was clear that whenever he didn't want to work on a run of preordered knives, he'd head to the drawing table and come up with a new design to take a million plus in preorders against and make some of those instead. People were lefting waiting on knives he never had any intention of finishing, and as far as I can see, there's nothing to applaud. Perhaps years ago, back in his early days he actually made a sincere effort to try to make good knives, but I think the road to his ultimate downfall he's experiencing now happened the moment he still had unfinished knives on his bench but discovered that his idiot fanbase* would take him at his word and pony up hundreds of thousands more dollars for "preorders" just on his say so and some pics he put together.

Once he realized that all he REALLY had to do in order to keep the scam going was make some of the knives he owed people (so he could spend the huge majority of the cash he took in on his personal bills/purchases/etc.), while continuously running preorder after preorder, and even selling seconds which in actuality were knives that hadn't even been made yet (the purest example of fraud in this whole sordid mess, honestly), and when he realized how few people would actually challenge him for refunds, the grift became super easy for him. I do not feel bad for anyone who got rooked by the guy, sorry I just don't. The word was out about him years ago, and still a lot of people defended him right up until @shinyedges and a couple of others gathered all of the postings proving the fraud from their own sub here, presented it to Spark, the owner of the site, and got their sub shut down. Even then, in this very thread, we have had defenders still pop up to defend poor ole Guy who's just doing the best that he can, and if you'd just be patient, he's definitely going to get your kni....

LOL JAYKAY, his house of cards has finally burnt down since the fanbase of people he was able to scam effectively dried up. Guy is a fraudster and everything bad that happens to him from this point forward in his life is well deserved. Nothing he's done is worth applauding.

Also, as others have said, plenty of companies make great large fixed blades that can be used hard that don't have the issues Guy had. Guy's issues were because he doesn't know how to make knives. He never did. All he was good at was bolting parts together that were made by actual makers who were contracted to do that work. I mean, if he knew how to actually grind a blade, the whole Magnacut issue his dumb ass had been bleating about would never have been an issue! Hell, so many times he used the excuse of "We're still waiting for the sheathes for the GSO whatevers to come in, please be patient!". So really, Guy didn't have the issues that you describe having, because it sounds like you actually do the work. You're cooking at home, dude was Doordashing McDonalds, huge difference.



* Idiot too harsh a word? Not really sure what else can be said when from the beginning Guy made it clear that these knives were all being made by him personally (due to his incredibly high standards LAWL), and so even a moment of critical thinking being done when he released preorders for new knives would have had smart people wondering "Hmmmm....if dudebro is going to start work on those new model knives....who's making the knife he still owes me?". Folks missing this simple and glaring issue over and over and over again (which so many of his ardent defenders did)...whelp, if the shoe fits., you know?
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shinyedges said:
This. All of this. Hot damn.

100%. The "his knives were great" crowd kills me. Pick up a fixed blade from volunteer knife, cpk, worktuff, and a plethora of others and they are immaculate. I have gone through so many manufacturers blades in the last 12+ years it's insane. Fixed blades make the largest portion of my collection by a country mile, I'm a fixed blade guy, who has owned a survive! knife (before the shenanigans) and handled others, idk what people are seeing that cpk and the others don't have?

Guy and Ellie (she's guilty too) have known for 10 years that they were missing the dead lines posted on their website that stated 90 days. They continued to take orders KNOWING they were not going to fulfill them in the stated time. They took peoples money and then made 2nds and 3rds and sold them to other people while the paid in full customers sat with nothing. Still till this day people from 10 years ago are waiting on their knife. Think about that. You could have had a child the year you ordered your knife and now you kid is double digits and you still have no knife.


The knives were good, not amazing. Amazing is what happens when Ben Seward makes a knife. When Don Hanson makes a knife and many others.

Zero sympathy for Guy or Ellie, when I made the thread that got their forum closed look at the lies that were said. Ellie bold faced lied about what was happening. Neither are great characters in my book.

But for crying out loud, let's be real about their knives, they aren't in a league of their own. The market is rich with equal or better quality knives in the same exact price range for most of their blades.
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David Mary said:
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EngrSorenson said:
I’m sure it’s the classic flipper logic. Scarcity driving up the cost and whatnot.
I expected this would happen. It’s stupid, but whatever.
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I don't disagree and you're probably right. The only thing thats peculiar is that there have been other Survive knives that have been sitting (and still are) at roughly the same price for a while now. All of a sudden these are posted and the bids are almost immediately out of control. I mean I get double for crazy people that want something bad, but 970$ for a 5.1? And it's not done yet.
Thats a new level of coo coo.
 
ncrockclimb said:
I have no proof that this is happening. That’s a disclaimer. I can imagine a sleazy person that had access to a bunch of blades putting them on eBay and trying to run up the price. It could be a quick way to generate a few dollars or a trip out of the country.
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Def. a possibility
 
veritas said:
I don't disagree and you're probably right. The only thing thats peculiar is that there have been other Survive knives that have been sitting (and still are) at roughly the same price for a while now. All of a sudden these are posted and the bids are almost immediately out of control. I mean I get double for crazy people that want something bad, but 970$ for a 5.1? And it's not done yet.
Thats a new level of coo coo.
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I think it's one of those "You miss 100% of the shots you never take" kind of philosophies.
A clever flipper never underestimates the stupidity of people with money to spend.
The secondary market doesn't have to make sense, I'm afraid.
 
Just because this didn't age well, I just figured I'd post it. This is fresh off the S!K website. You can still find the production schedule page if you root around for it.
Looks like this chart never became obsolete... guess they didn't work hard enough ;)
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I wouldnt put it past Guy at all to finish a piece here and there or even a handful and then drop em on ebay, and have a few friends or fake accounts bid em up into the ridiculous range. According to HST He has enough blanks and sheaths and parts to finish almost everything hes just to lazy to do it. He has no morals so whats stopping him from cashing in on whats left. If he has someone doing it for him he can hide cash assets from forfeiture later.
 
Also, I never heard back from Ben Schwartz over at Knife News about my request for a follow up article on S!K after the "troubled past, bright future" bit they did back in 2021.
I sent that back on 5/21/2024, prior to Heavy Set Tactical departing and the big reveal of the doomed enterprise.
More like "Troubled Past, No Future", ammirite?
Still want to see that article!

ETA: notice that there's still 12% of their open orders from 2021... back when that bright future was projected. You can't make this stuff up.
 
If you look at the Facebook group there is talk of trading amongst themselves, retaining value, etc. The scam lives even after death!
 
Chefget said:
If you look at the Facebook group there is talk of trading amongst themselves, retaining value, etc. The scam lives even after death!
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Can't wait for that Facebook group to dry up once there's nothing left to talk about.
 
Guy just dropped a new video...in so confused.

He is trying to act like it is not over.

Talking about his finish and voids still...when we know he's lost over $1mil dollars.
 
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