Bad Survive! Deserves A Permanent Post In The Hall Of Shame

No YouTube updates since 7/13.
for once, I’m disappointed the propaganda machine isn’t doing anything.

I guess it’s hard to spin his current predicament. It’s been a decade in the making, so I guess I should be patient.
 
EngrSorenson said:
No YouTube updates since 7/13.
for once, I’m disappointed the propaganda machine isn’t doing anything.

I guess it’s hard to spin his current predicament. It’s been a decade in the making, so I guess I should be patient.
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You'll have more by Christmas
 
EngrSorenson said:
No YouTube updates since 7/13.
for once, I’m disappointed the propaganda machine isn’t doing anything.

I guess it’s hard to spin his current predicament. It’s been a decade in the making, so I guess I should be patient.
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He is exactly delusional enough to try.

The last video of him I saw he mentioned finding some subs to finish the blanks. The only way that could go is him selling them all as seconds, which I would not put past him. If they fill preorders for money that is already gone he'd never be able to pay for the service and no one in the industry would do it on credit.

He better hurry up though.
 
EngrSorenson said:
No YouTube updates since 7/13.
for once, I’m disappointed the propaganda machine isn’t doing anything.

I guess it’s hard to spin his current predicament. It’s been a decade in the making, so I guess I should be patient.
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Someone in the facebook group supposedly talked to him. I can share the reply here if that’s okay.
 
From George Cook via Facebook Survive Fan group. I make no claims about the truthfulness of this statement.

I talk to Guy from time to time and I spoke with him today. He told me what was going on with him and I asked if I can share some of what he said here, which he gave his permission.

1. He's currently in bankruptcy proceedings.

2. He has no equipment or means to do anything with the remaining stock he has. And since he's going through bankruptcy, the court will decide what will be done with that. As many of you have surmised, finishing what's left is out of the question.

3. He is currently working with the PA Attorney General's office to come up with an agreement that prevents him from doing business in the state as a knife manufacturer in exchange they do not pursue any legal action against him. He wanted to emphasize he has been in frequent contact with the AG's office, complying with all of their requests. He says he has provided thorough explanations to them and they have not found any criminal intent in his actions.

4. As far as what he plans to do after this is over, he doesn't know. He's just putting one foot in front of the other right now.

The reason I'm posting this here is I know many of you are fans of the knives he designed and manufactured. I've read on here about various theories about what he may be doing or not doing and I wanted to relay what I know from what he told me. I also understand it's not going to change any minds about how Guy is seen. I'm providing the information for you to consider and judge according to how you see fit.
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He is currently working with the PA Attorney General's office to come up with an agreement that prevents him from doing business in the state as a knife manufacturer in exchange they do not pursue any legal action against him.
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1 state out of 50 would prohibit him from doing business as a knife manufacturer and he gets out of prosecution?
man, what a great deal for Guy, especially since there's no way he'll ever manufacture a knife ever again.
I hope he gives refunds for everyone waiting for a knife!
He says he has provided thorough explanations to them and they have not found any criminal intent in his actions.
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I understand this is like... 4th hand information at this point, but I was afraid that'd be the case.
I would think it's rather easy to interpret the whole saga as a dumbass running a company drives the whole thing tits up.
I'm preparing myself for the possible outcome where, morally bankrupt or not, what Guy did legally was not egregious enough to get the book thrown at him.

He's destitute, filing for bankruptcy, his wife left him, he's blown up his friendships, gave away his dog, and his career as a knife maker is completely shot.
I'm sure that won't completely heal the wounds of those who've lost money, but I'm sure that's some kind of justice.
 
EngrSorenson said:
I understand this is like... 4th hand information at this point, but I was afraid that'd be the case.
I would think it's rather easy to interpret the whole saga as a dumbass running a company drives the whole thing tits up.
I'm preparing myself for the possible outcome where, morally bankrupt or not, what Guy did legally was not egregious enough to get the book thrown at him.

He's destitute, filing for bankruptcy, his wife left him, he's blown up his friendships, gave away his dog, and his career as a knife maker is completely shot.
I'm sure that won't completely heal the wounds of those who've lost money, but I'm sure that's some kind of justice.
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That's the problem. The state isn't going to look into it very much since he's not driving around in a Bentley. They'll just take his explanations at face value that he mismanaged things and was screwed over by suppliers and partners. The silver lining (if you can call it that) is that the average person is probably out a few hundred dollars. A smaller number is out a few thousand. At least it's not like the Bernie Madoff situation where people lost their life savings.
 
EngrSorenson said:
BK’s? What are those?
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Bankruptcies. They are formal legal proceeding filed in federal court. There are a few different kinds. The point here is that no one would ever say they are "in bankruptcy proceedings" unless they formally filed or were being deliberately deceptive (e.g., trying to trick creditors into not pursuing debts).
 
SCTorrero said:
Bankruptcies. They are formal legal proceeding filed in federal court. There are a few different kinds. The point here is that no one would ever say they are "in bankruptcy proceedings" unless they formally filed or were being deliberately deceptive (e.g., trying to trick creditors into not pursuing debts).
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Before this gets too far down the tracks, allow me to offer some clarification. I am the one who posted that to SK FB fan page. After seeing your original post, I checked on PACER and saw he had not filed yet; the only thing out there was a ch 7 bk from 2005. I contacted him and he reiterated what he told me. It was a simple misunderstanding on my part. I've since posted a correction to the fan page. I hope that clears things up.
 
El_Bribon said:
Before this gets too far down the tracks, allow me to offer some clarification. I am the one who posted that to SK FB fan page. After seeing your original post, I checked on PACER and saw he had not filed yet; the only thing out there was a ch 7 bk from 2005. I contacted him and he reiterated what he told me. It was a simple misunderstanding on my part. I've since posted a correction to the fan page. I hope that clears things up.
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Thanks for the clarification. I did not intend to impugn your integrity. FWIW, I wasn't questioning your reporting, I was questioning the source.

I've read "bankruptcy" murmurs a few places. IF Guy is representing that he has filed, it isn't true. IF Guy has indicated that he may file, it may or may not be true.
 
El_Bribon said:
Before this gets too far down the tracks…
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I think it’s too late for you. You’ve been consistently giving them the benefit of the doubt throughout a majority of your posts on the forum (since the majority of them are in this thread) and even recently, still posting misinformation, ie. bankruptcy.

If it comes out of Guy’s mouth or his fingers in the digital space, it’s misinformation! Thats literally been the point of this thread since the very damn beginning, Guy is a LIAR.
 
I remember once in a video Guy said that the reason they were moving away from delta protocol is premature dulling.
I wonder how Dan or Nathan would say about that.
 
If Guy have not wasted all the credit and reputation in the past decade by postponing orders, they might have gained enough support to get compensated by Crucible or NSM.
 
Laurarium said:
I remember once in a video Guy said that the reason they were moving away from delta protocol is premature dulling.
I wonder how Dan or Nathan would say about that.
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As a guy who's seen first hand Nathan's dV3, I can say definitively that Guy either screwed up somehow or he's lying to recover some additional costs.
dV3 is amazing stuff.
 
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