Survive! knives

Here's the video for the "moving sale". Check out the first line in the video description:

"Get ready for some HUGE, once in a lifetime savings."

[video=youtube_share;1j15DjOlzyI]http://youtu.be/1j15DjOlzyI[/video]

I'm not crying or tryin to come off as a complainer here, but surely you would admit that 5%, or in some cases $5 after you order a sheath separately, isn't exactly "HUGE, once in a lifetime savings"? Yeah?
The term "drastic discount" was also used.

Again, not a big deal. I am eagerly anticipating my tracking number email.
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Are you sure? I mean, that is exactly what it sounds like to be quite honest. You don't agree with the pricing, you don't agree with the shipping notification, you don't agree with the savings, but you don't want to complain? The fact you continue bringing it up sounds like it is a big deal.
 
Are you sure? I mean, that is exactly what it sounds like to be quite honest. You don't agree with the pricing, you don't agree with the shipping notification, you don't agree with the savings, but you don't want to complain? The fact you continue bringing it up sounds like it is a big deal.

Not really. I'm excited to have a 4.1 (hopefully) on it's way to me shortly. I admit, I would like the knife to arrive sooner rather than later. I am spoiled by online retailers who usually get you your knife within 3 days.
I was just responding to people who were questioning the validity of what I was saying re: the savings. I just wanted to point out that there's actually not that much savings here, once you buy a separate sheath, and I think that fact stands.
Not a complaint, just a statement. I still jumped on the deal. Just saying, it's not a "HUGE, once in a lifetime savings". Let's be real here.
 
Just keep in mind, it's a small operation and they more than likely have to operate within tighter margins than say Busse or BRKT. I'll pick up a 3.5 one of these days, if they roll around in 20CV again, I'm also going to get a sheath.
 
If i like my 4.1 as much as I like my GSO10, I'm sure I'll eventually want one of those $100 fancy leather sheaths.
I'm already looking at them...
Really hoping mine goes out sometime this week, as it seems people are starting to get theirs
 
I am really a folder fanatic but recently it became apparent to me that I have a need for a fixed blade compelling me to learn what I need to know in order to make a wise purchasing decision. That learning curve is steep and it includes sheaths.
I’m really glad that I found this thread – never heard of Survive Knives but after reading about 90% of this long thread and checking out several of the better known competition, it looks like a GSO-3.5 or 4.1 will become my first fixed blade. That decision of which, is yet to be made.
I would like some information about Kiah’s Kydex sheaths which can be purchased on site along with the knives. Please chime in Kiah with any helpful comments or suggestions. I’m left handed and would prefer horizontal cross draw (stupid?). Is a Tek-Lok needed for my application? Is that even doable with an overall length of 8-9 inches? I have two cross draw leather sheaths but they are for folders. Remember…I’m fixed blade and Kydex stupid. Also, thank you Guy and Ellie for your input to this thread. Good to get a feel for the company.
 
Stand Straight...

Keep in mind, S!K normally sells new production knives one way, WITH sheaths. The talk on here for the last several pages is about blemished knives they have laying around that they're trying to sell off because they're moving to a different state. Even the normally listed factory 2nds have sheaths, mine did.

The price of these mystery blemished knives reflect not having a sheath, because more than likely, they don't have any to include with the sale.

In other words, last I heard, with or without sheath is not a normal factory option. Ellie can elaborate or correct me if I'm mistaken.
 
UffDa
Thanks for the reply. I just attempted to send you a copy of my invoice. Maybe that will help..................if you receive it.
I think I found it and replied to it this morning. If that wasn't you, Josh and I will be working on emails a bit today so someone will get back to you.

Lost Cosmonaut
I ordered a "thin" second recently. Is there any way I can get a sheath at the $15 price when they are available? Otherwise I don't mind paying the $20 on the site, just want to see if that will be available to previous orders.
We weren't planning on it, especially since the knives will be available with a sheath once they are in stock. As I mentioned before, we charge more for the items on their own because it costs us more. If we sold them for $15 we would be paying money to sell them.
If your order hasn't shipped we can combine the orders and refund the extra cost, but we will have to have an in house conversation about how much to refund. Usually we would only refund the shipping charge. With this situation there are a few factors to consider: the extra materials aren't being used, but it would be unfair to the people who may not get the handle they wanted because they chose to wait and order once sheaths are in stock, then there is the fact that a lot people already saved $5 on shipping. If this situation happens and we have requests for combining orders, the amount of the refund will most likely be considered on a case by case basis.

Rasco
So my point is, compared to buying a GSO 4.1 from BladeHQ, how much have I really saved?
It would be $209 for a GSO 4..1 (with custom handles, and sheath) shipped from BHQ to my door.
If I have to order the factory seconds 4.1 and the sheath separately directly from the site, and pay shipping twice, according to the math I've already done, that's gonna end up costing me $200.
No, BHQ and many other resellers don't charge shipping. That is a business practice that they have chosen to go with and so far we haven't made that choice so there are some savings there.

I did see a comment somewhere about the fact that they ship right away so in response to that: Where do you think BHQ gets those knives they send to you? They order them from us and then sell them to you once they are already built, sharpened and sitting on their shelf. I see that as trying to compare getting an SK-4 and a GSO-4.1. One is done and you choose among what is available, the other one is created to exactly what each individual orderer has specified. BHQ does the waiting for their order, instead of their customers waiting.

Stand Straight
I am really a folder fanatic but recently it became apparent to me that I have a need for a fixed blade compelling me to learn what I need to know in order to make a wise purchasing decision. That learning curve is steep and it includes sheaths.
I’m really glad that I found this thread – never heard of Survive Knives but after reading about 90% of this long thread and checking out several of the better known competition, it looks like a GSO-3.5 or 4.1 will become my first fixed blade. That decision of which, is yet to be made.
I would like some information about Kiah’s Kydex sheaths which can be purchased on site along with the knives. Please chime in Kiah with any helpful comments or suggestions. I’m left handed and would prefer horizontal cross draw (stupid?). Is a Tek-Lok needed for my application? Is that even doable with an overall length of 8-9 inches? I have two cross draw leather sheaths but they are for folders. Remember…I’m fixed blade and Kydex stupid. Also, thank you Guy and Ellie for your input to this thread. Good to get a feel for the company.
With the GSO-4.1 sheath you can actually turn the clip and put it in to get the horizontal carry, but it can be a bit handle heavy depending on how tight you wear your belt. I just checked and the same can't be said for the GSO-3.5, the holes do not line up so you would need an alternative method to horizontal carry that. The people on here will probably have some good input about how best to do that modification. Personally, I am waiting patiently for a Sagewood Gear Scout sheath for the GSO-3.5.

straitr

Stand Straight...

Keep in mind, S!K normally sells new production knives one way, WITH sheaths. The talk on here for the last several pages is about blemished knives they have laying around that they're trying to sell off because they're moving to a different state. Even the normally listed factory 2nds have sheaths, mine did.

The price of these mystery blemished knives reflect not having a sheath, because more than likely, they don't have any to include with the sale.

In other words, last I heard, with or without sheath is not a normal factory option. Ellie can elaborate or correct me if I'm mistaken.
Before we ever came up with the sale idea we were planning to change the way we sell sheaths. In the past, all orders came with a sheath with the customer picking out what color they wanted. But we were seeing so many people wanting leather or making their own sheaths, we figured it would be beneficial all around to give customers an option. We don't like senseless waste and if you get our knife and end up getting a different sheath then not only are you left with this extra wasted sheath, we've all wasted Kiah's valuable time and energy. We already run that guy pretty ragged. Then consider that some of the times when our knives are out of stock it is only because we don't have sheaths for them, so how many people aren't able to get a knife because someone else has a sheath that they didn't even want (but still paid extra for)? In the future our knives will be available with the option of sheath or no sheath. Of course if we get overwhelming amounts of questions and/or comments about the practice we will go back to making sheaths a required purchase.

We were going to wait and list models once we at least had sheaths to offer but decided to list them so people could take advantage of the tiered price discounts if they chose to order without the sheath. Perhaps we should have waited on listing those, but then people would complain that we didn't have enough in stock to justify the tiered discounts (as can be seen in earlier posts on this thread and facebook comments).


Well, I think I answered everything. I guess that teaches me for trying to take a sick day on a Sunday. :)
 
Thanks Ellie for all the work you have put into addressing customers' (potential and actual) questions and curiosities. I will keep spreading the word about Survive!
 
Thanks Ellie! I think I'll just order a sheath from you guys when they become available. Can't wait to get my factory 2nd GSO-4.1!
 
Well said Ellie!

@Rasco I feel ya! I'm on order for a 3.5, but that's well within the 5-15 business days (I'm at 10) their policy states, haven't seen a shipping email yet, but end of the day, I'd rather wait for the knife and not an email. :)
 
I think this thread needs to be closed and have a Survive! knives sub forum...there's just too much going on here.
 
So one of my buddies used my GSO 4.1 this past weekend and is in love with it. Is there any place with them still in stock? His only preference was for the bow drill divot and ferro notch.
 
Thanks Ellie. Got it. For some unknown reason, yahoo wants to put Survive! email in the SPAM folder even though I keep telling them that it is not SPAM.:confused:

Anyway, I am looking forward to getting the knife and thanks again for putting up with me. :D
 
... it looks like a GSO-3.5 or 4.1 will become my first fixed blade. That decision of which, is yet to be made.
...I’m left handed and would prefer horizontal cross draw (stupid?). Is a Tek-Lok needed for my application? Is that even doable with an overall length of 8-9 inches? I have two cross draw leather sheaths but they are for folders. Remember…I’m fixed blade and Kydex stupid.

You can absolutely mount the GSO-4.1 for horizontal cross-draw, i am surprised to hear that you cannot with the included clip for the 3.5 but YES a Tek-lok would make that viable. Another option is something like what is shown in this video (skip to 6:43 for crossdraw - this is a 5.1 mounted at an angle, but the piece works horizontal as well):

[video=youtube;COKvk-AcNzk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COKvk-AcNzk[/video]

IMHO horizontal cross-draw is a user-preference but I personally don't find it all that comfortable or convenient, and it certainly isn't concealable if that was your intention. Here are some images of a GSO-4.1 mounted horizontal with Kiah's clip:

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If you want a more convenient, concealable carry option, you could just clip it into your pocket (this will work better with the 3.5 than the 4.1 shown) or attach a dangler and slip it into your pocket (here i have it outside, again the 4.1 is a bit wider than the 3.5):

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I am really a folder fanatic but recently it became apparent to me that I have a need for a fixed blade compelling me to learn what I need to know in order to make a wise purchasing decision. That learning curve is steep and it includes sheaths.
I’m really glad that I found this thread – never heard of Survive Knives but after reading about 90% of this long thread and checking out several of the better known competition, it looks like a GSO-3.5 or 4.1 will become my first fixed blade. That decision of which, is yet to be made.
I would like some information about Kiah’s Kydex sheaths which can be purchased on site along with the knives. Please chime in Kiah with any helpful comments or suggestions. I’m left handed and would prefer horizontal cross draw (stupid?). Is a Tek-Lok needed for my application? Is that even doable with an overall length of 8-9 inches? I have two cross draw leather sheaths but they are for folders. Remember…I’m fixed blade and Kydex stupid. Also, thank you Guy and Ellie for your input to this thread. Good to get a feel for the company.

Like Ellie said, the 4.1s can be switched to horizontal carry. May require a bit of fiddling on some as they're hand drilled and it's kinda accidental in the first place. The 3.5 is narrower, so it couldn't work there without shortening the slots. The clips are kinda narrow for the job and do jut out though, so it's not really the idea setup on the 4.1 either. A Tek-Lok will work, but I still don't recommend it.

The sheaths being 2 piece are fairly wide, Kydex is pretty stiff, and the clip or a Tek-Lok plus the stiff wide sheath is gonna be pretty (probably very) uncomfortable in that position IME. If I wanted to carry cross-draw, I would pick the narrower 3.5 and have a deep foldover leather sheath made with a wide wraparound horizontal loop. That would be worlds more comfortable than any Kydex setup in that position.

As far as size, I've seen people cross-draw carry much bigger fixed blades. I don't like it at all myself, but everyone's different. Personally I'm probably in the minority as I don't care for drop loops and can't stand Kydex clips, Tek-Loks, ect. My personal sheaths get cordage loops (simple or braided). Tight to the belt, inverted, dangling, horizontal, strapped to my pack, whatever. In my opinion, Kydex has no better attachment system than a simple piece of rope (paracord, Amsteel, ect.)

As a general side note, Dwayne at Armorall Leather (Leatherman on the forum) has access to all my S!K blades for anyone interested.

ETA: Thanks, Chiral. :thumbup:
 
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So one of my buddies used my GSO 4.1 this past weekend and is in love with it. Is there any place with them still in stock? His only preference was for the bow drill divot and ferro notch.

I think your buddy has two choices... 1)check often on the major auction site or 2)be patient.
 
As a general side note, Dwayne at Armorall Leather (Leatherman on the forum) has access to all my S!K blades for anyone interested.

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That never would have occurred to me! Thanks for the info :thumbup:
 
So one of my buddies used my GSO 4.1 this past weekend and is in love with it. Is there any place with them still in stock? His only preference was for the bow drill divot and ferro notch.

Another option is the SK-4: a bit uglier, little heavier, not sure you can get the bow-drill divot but the spine sparks a ferro-rod just fine. The shop has some in stock, otherwise I might be able to help.

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