Tactical Hawk Comparison Old vs New

Edwood7 said:
Yes, it’s a frightening few seconds when you can’t get your leg free. And the shit the other guys give you afterwards is not that good as well. :grumpy:
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I dunno, once that leg comes through the door, I think I would tend to freeze for a split second and give you the time you need to pull it back out.
Guess if I was really on the ball I might try shooting at it, but I'd probably be thinking more at that point about just getting the hell out.

pete
 
Glock26 said:
Enough with the arguments, edwood7 I was reading some of your responses is your main language spanish? Also where the hell can i buy a Winker knife?
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El español es mi lengua natal. But im practicing my inglish.
 
Do you have a link for that Jenny Warren tomahawk? My google-fu only brought me back to this thread...

@pete: If you kick in a door and the wood breaks, the splinters will bend in the direction of the kick. That way they will become an obstacle to pulling the foot back out. Thus, more than a split second might be necessary to free the leg, giving the BGs a chance to grab something and go to town on your leg or trying to shoot you through the door.


Ookami
 
Just go to rmjtactical.com . Click on products, tomahawks. It will be towards the bottom of the tactical hawks product section.
 
Edwood7 said:
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I got to handle his axes in person last October, at the Costa Mesa custom knife show; needless to say y bought one of his axes that day. Once you carry one for a few months you will learn that this things will be whit you all your life, its one of does things that your grate grand kids will probably look at when its hanging over the fireplace.
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I was quite surprised to see this photo. I first met Mr. Winkler and his knives at this show. I have no idea how I missed his work but this was the first time I'd seen them. I was impressed quite a bit. So impressed, in fact that the small Hunter's Hawk with wood grips (bottom row, second from the end) and the Sayoc with rubber grips (top row, end of the table) are now mine. I've used the Sayoc to chop firewood, blast through several doors, cut a hole in the sheet metal of a car (just playing on the last two) and have no doubt that it will do anything I ask it to do.

Mr. Winkler is great to do business with. I had him build me two sheaths for the axes because I'm left handed. He built them, shipped them to me and THEN asked for payment. Not many do business that way these days.


Take care, Lou
 



It was the first time I met Mr. Winkler as well. I had seen his work before and wished for one of his axes. I went through all the show floor at Costa Mesa, but I only really went to the show to buy an axe from Mr. Winkler. I got this Sayoc Baby Hawk at the show, it’s the first of its kind made, and it was small enough to fit in my old military map case I had whit me at the show. It now rest on a mantel behind my desk, my Winkler Combat Ax and Sayoc are my working axes now.
 
Edwood7 said:
It was the first time I met Mr. Winkler as well. I had seen his work before and wished for one of his axes. I went through all the show floor at Costa Mesa, but I only really went to the show to buy an axe from Mr. Winkler. I got this Sayoc Baby Hawk at the show, it’s the first of its kind made, and it was small enough to fit in my old military map case I had whit me at the show. It now rest on a mantel behind my desk, my Winkler Combat Ax and Sayoc are my working axes now.
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YOU F'IN BASTARD! You are the SOB that picked up that axe, when I put it down to look at another one (I already had one in my hand). And then you bought it right out from under me! I HATE YOU.

Seriously, beautiful axe. I'm jealous. Small World ain't it?


Lou
 
Seriously, beautiful axe. I'm jealous. Small World ain't it?
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Don't hate bud. Soon there will be more to come. Ah..that wonderful jungle camo..i wonder Mr. Winkler's into Flattern print?
 
Edwood,

It looks like that handle has cracked around the front pin. I'll be happy to replace it for you. No charge.

Daniel
 
DWinkler said:
Edwood,

It looks like that handle has cracked around the front pin. I'll be happy to replace it for you. No charge.

Daniel
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Mr. Winkler, my axe has been put through hell, it went whit me on a grueling 3 months in and around Juarez, and that dent is all it has to show for it. Does dents are earned. Thank you for the kind offer.
 
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Lou Castle said:
YOU F'IN BASTARD! You are the SOB that picked up that axe, when I put it down to look at another one (I already had one in my hand). And then you bought it right out from under me! I HATE YOU.

Seriously, beautiful axe. I'm jealous. Small World ain't it?


Lou
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Yes it was me, I even spoke to you briefly at that table, I remember you very well, I hope your no still mad at me, I’d like to shake your hand as a friend if you’re at the next Costa Mesa knife show.
If it makes you feel better that axe was whit me trough some of the most dangerous days of my life, saved my ass a few times. It has a place of honor in my office.
 
If it makes you feel better that axe was whit me trough some of the most dangerous days of my life, saved my ass a few times. It has a place of honor in my office.
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I would like to say that to my axe in the future....
 
I have made the same offer to several of the guy’s that are carrying my axes. So far no one has accepted. I guess it is like one of the Australian Operators told me, “Hey Mate, every one of those dings is a lead in to a story I can tell my grandchildren some day.”

Daniel
 
Dents and dings add character and tell a story. Once something has been damaged beyond use, it deserves an honorable retirement like Ed gave his (though his axe seems quite usable still).
 
It is very usable. I just want to keep this one out of the field now, I'd like to pass it on to the next team leader that comes along. Sort of a passing of the torch.

When they ask who is in charge they always say "the guy whit the axe".

I have two younger guys in line, its a running joke among my men. Who is going to take Edwood axe when he’s gone?

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I guess it is like one of the Australian Operators told me, “Hey Mate, every one of those dings is a lead in to a story I can tell my grandchildren some day.”
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Found this at Kayanan's blogspot; A war-ridden and stood up well Sayoc.
 
mistwalker said:
Only the Shrike models (large and small) are designed for breaching. The Talon, Kestrel, and Jenny Wrens are made for fighting, plus have good edge geometries for working with wood in a wilderness environment. The Winkler hawks are beautiful but, having put some RMJ hawks through some pretty serious tests, for that kind of money I'd have a Shrike for breaching and fighting when working in an urban environment and a Kestrel for fighting and chopping when in a wilderness environment. Actually since I already have a shrike I suppose I'd get a Kestrel and a Jenny Wren :)
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Actually the Talon and Kestrel are designed primarily for breaching as well. They do work better on wood than the Shrike because of different blade geometry. The Srike is newer than the Talon and Kestrel and better for some situations, like anything involving electricity because of the insulated handle. That being said, we have never heard of a Talon or Kestrel breaking or failing in the field, even though we know of several extremely heavy duty breaching jobs they have gone through. Such as, cutting a rocket pod off of a downed MIG fighter jet.
The Jenny Wren is our only tomahawk not created with breaching as it's main focus. It was designed for a Marine group primarily for CQC with light breaching capabilities.
 
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