"Thats illegal!!!"

midnight flyer said:
Comparing notes isn't necessarily complaining. But this case, I could see that from me. I have mentioned that I am tired (and inferred annoyed) at show boating. I can see I am not alone.

Actually, I am at the center of nothing! You give me waaayyyy too much credit. I am guessing by your quote points that you don't agree with my perception or don't understand it. Regardless, I am not my brother's keeper in these instances and something I have been clear on throughout (even apologized to BigBlades if I came on too strong) is that I am tired of what I consider poor behavior.

Teaching full grown men how to act the way I think they should not only isn't my responsibility, but not my business. I don't condone drunken behavior, but haven't taken it on myself to lecture a drunk when I see one. I don't approve of people that lie to their spouses, but I don't lecture or try to educate them on the evils of bad behavior. Full grown men aren't likely to change, and most likely an educational mini class trying to sway them to think like me won't be successful.

Robert
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That's just it, I do understand. I also understand that certain things have always happened and will continue to happen. Allowing it to affect your disposition to the point of complaining about it, and then never actually doing anything about it seems... rather futile.

I also understand for every fool there is a significantly larger number of people not being a fool. And anyone who decides to become fearful over a fool, hasn't put the thought into just how many are not fools.

Good day.

Chris
 
These threads come up pretty often around here...Anyway, here's my two cents: I carry a knife, usually daily, and it is a big help at work. (plumbing) I also live in a state (NY) whose gun and knife laws are overdone and ridiculous. That said, I have never been in a situation where somebody even *saw* my knife, let alone got scared or concerned by its presence. I have not had to "explain the difference between a tool and a weapon" or "educate" anyone. Maybe my experience is unique...

It has a lot to do with how you conduct yourself. Personally, whether folder or fixed, my knife is either in my pocket, or on my belt sheathed and covered by a shirt, hoodie, etc. When I need to cut something, I do so, and put the knife away. I'm not overly showy with it, I don't brandish it; I simply cut what needs to be cut and that's that. Never had a problem.

I have found that when you don't go around looking for a reaction, you will usually not get one. Enjoy your knife, and be sensible with it. It really is that simple.
 
I have never really had a negative experience while carrying/using my knives, aside from my friends occasionally giving me crap for spending "so much money" on them. To which I respond: "Your fishing pole alone cost over a hundred bucks, and your reel was at least two-hundred, not to mention you have six different rod and reel setups each for a specific lure or type of fishing, so don't give me lip on how much I spend on a knife."
I have grown up in rural Illinois my whole life and carried a knife every day, even through out high school (graduated in 2015). Most of my teachers didn't notice because I wasn't a jackass flaunting the fact that I had a blade on me, the ones who did notice found it quite useful when they needed to cut something. Not to mention they knew me and understood that I was a responsible kid. I have found that in most cases it boils down to how you act, and how you carry yourself. Because of an internship for one of my college classes I got to ride along with most of the local LE departments, and I would always ask the officers about knives and if they have ever had any issues with people carrying/using "illegal knives" or otherwise. The general consensus pretty much boiled down to whether or not someone was acting like a fool and/or threatening others, if not most of the officers do not really care what knife you have and most of them appreciate a cool blade!
--Ben
 
I am usually the one who knows the most about knife law in my friend group (VA here, so it’s VERY lenient). The only legal advice that I ever give them would be, “yes you can carry that, but please be careful. I don’t want to see you behind bars”. And then I just drone on about knife upgrade they can buy because I totally love hearing myself talk haha.
TLDR: make sure your friends are safe
 
Murindo said:
Fortunately here in Texas all the ancient draconia knife laws were abolished over the last three years and everything is legal with the exception in certain restricted areas where blade length is restricted to 5.5 inches.

Prior to that the local laws in San Antonio and Austin weren't much different than NYC. They now have to conform with the everything is legal state laws.
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Yep about 10 years ago I was attending a parade on a float, and after it a young Texas cop wanted to take me to task over the 14 inch Bowie on my belt! His Sgt! Came over and told him to take a seat! He excused himself and starting explaining that I was a CW reenactor and it was legal for me to have it.
 
deltaboy said:
Yep about 10 years ago I was attending a parade on a float, and after it a young Texas cop wanted to take me to task over the 14 inch Bowie on my belt! His Sgt! Came over and told him to take a seat! He excused himself and starting explaining that I was a CW reenactor and it was legal for me to have it.
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Yup, hoping this comes to California Murindo so the whole State will have to obide. I'm retiring in Northern AZ someday where I can carry what I want but its just frustrating where I'm at now where all these asinine restrictions are.
Doug at KnifeRights said they are picking the low hanging fruit first before coming out here. Makes sense.
 
New York State prohibits possession of gravity knives, and defines the term to include locking knives that can be opened by application of centrifugal force. That is, if you can hold the exposed part of the closed blade and "flick" your hand so the blade opens and locks, it is considered a gravity knife. Same for a knife the blade drop open if you turn it over so the blade is on the bottom. The New York City Police and one of the NYC District Attorneys are very aggressive in arresting and prosecuting people with Buck 110s, Gerber EZOuts, etc. During the last two years the NYS Legislature has passed a law to make it clear that flicking a knife like a Buck 110 did not make it a gravity knife. Governor Andrew Cuomo has vetoed the law each time. Please remember that when he tries to run for President.
 
Glenn Goodlett said:
I don't know. In California the bong is legal and the knife is not.
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All the landscapers use machetes here in Southern California. Open carry of fixed blades is legal in CA. Watch out for the sneaky fellow concealing his 24” machete in a leg sheath inside his trousers. He’s easy to spot by his peculiar gait.
 
Planterz said:
I used to get that comment, even in Arizona. Not very recently though - maybe people have caught on. Autos/balisongs/fixed blades used to be iffy to carry concealed without a permit (because it's a deadly weapon, but not an "ordinary pocket knife"). Now though, the only law in Arizona regarding knives is that there is no law in Arizona regarding knives. More specifically, there was a knife "amnesty" law passed in the state that disallows counties and municipalities (anything but the state) to make laws about knives, giving "amnesty" to those that travel across invisible lines. For example, Phoenix (or Maricopa county, I forget) had a 3" limit. No more, so you can't get in trouble driving through point B with an illegal knife when going from A to C. The state itself has no laws, so everything with a blade is legal. It's also a Class III state. Literally the ONLY weapon apart from a WMD that's illegal in AZ is nunchaku. Go figre.

But yeah, I used to get the "isn't that illegal?" and related remarks, but not for a long time. Maybe it's just the company I keep.
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I live in Arizona too. Anytime I open my knife in public I’m sure to open it in a very discreet manner and I still get people looking at me like a pulled a rifle out. Usually followed up with why do you need to carry that? Most of the time I explain nicely and no issues.
 
Murindo said:
Fortunately here in Texas all the ancient draconia knife laws were abolished over the last three years and everything is legal with the exception in certain restricted areas where blade length is restricted to 5.5 inches.

Prior to that the local laws in San Antonio and Austin weren't much different than NYC. They now have to conform with the everything is legal state laws.
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One little correction here - it was San Antonio and Corpus with restrictions, NOT Austin. Austin just followed state law. They had zero restrictions on knife carry beyond hat was specified by state law. Before the most recent changes, I would visit Austin 3 to 6 times a week. Except when going to a court house, federal building, I am carrying my standard EDC of 4 in the pockets and a pair of Kabar shorties at 4 & 8.

When I need to go to a court house or federal building, I'l pull the pocket cutlery out and the fixed blades from their sheaths and leave then in the vehicle, but leave the sheaths on. I refuse to take my belt off to remove the sheaths. Besides, the signs say "No guns or weapons". Last I heard, neither leather nor plastic sheaths are weapons.

I occasionally get the uninformed question

"Aren't those illegal?" or "Isn't that illegal?"

I then take the opportunity to explain Texas knife law. It is SO much easier now.

All I have to say is

"The only knife law in Texas is the one that says you can't take a knife with a blade longer than 5-1/2" the same places you can't take a concealed handgun."

The only questions I ever get from LEOs are -

"What are they?"

and

"Why 2? (fixed blades)

Then they get the story here....

https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/what-was-your-first-knife.1397763/page-3#post-16115344
 
Crashnburk said:
I live in Arizona too. Anytime I open my knife in public I’m sure to open it in a very discreet manner and I still get people looking at me like a pulled a rifle out. Usually followed up with why do you need to carry that? Most of the time I explain nicely and no issues.
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I can't speak for elsewhere in the state, but in Tucson, particularly the area I live and stick close to, it's common to see people open carrying handguns. Even moreso to see knife clips sticking out of pockets. Once in a while I'll see someone with a belt knife, but have yet to see anyone with a good belt knife. Occasionally I'll spot someone carrying a firearm concealed.

The "why do you need to carry that" question always bemused because it's always asked while I'm using it to cut something.
 
explorer13421 said:
New York State prohibits possession of gravity knives, and defines the term to include locking knives that can be opened by application of centrifugal force. That is, if you can hold the exposed part of the closed blade and "flick" your hand so the blade opens and locks, it is considered a gravity knife. Same for a knife the blade drop open if you turn it over so the blade is on the bottom. The New York City Police and one of the NYC District Attorneys are very aggressive in arresting and prosecuting people with Buck 110s, Gerber EZOuts, etc. During the last two years the NYS Legislature has passed a law to make it clear that flicking a knife like a Buck 110 did not make it a gravity knife. Governor Andrew Cuomo has vetoed the law each time. Please remember that when he tries to run for President.
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That bit about Cuomo is appreciated. I didnt know that.
Yet another reason to hate him.
 
I open carry a fixed blade daily and never hear anything other than the occasional ....can I see it comment

This is in and out of meetings in banks ,office buildings , Twsp buildings and even my kids schools

I also carry a concealed firearm and when I have my jacket off in restaurants etc it is in view

No one ever com,ents on that either
 
That's pretty ballsy, I would not feel comfortable carrying a fixed blade openly in a school or bank or any government building. It is illegal in some of those places here in Michigan as well. I feel like someone would call the police or complain and make a scene.
 
shinyedges said:
That's pretty ballsy, I would not feel comfortable carrying a fixed blade openly in a school or bank or any government building. It is illegal in some of those places here in Michigan as well. I feel like someone would call the police or complain and make a scene.
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It’s a no issue if going into court room I have to leave in car or check in at front desk

I’m sitting in a Volleyball tournament right now with this on my belt and a 357

 
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