The Bears' Den--Shirogorov Showcase

Hey, I dont see a stop pin on the 111, is the blade hitting the back spacer when closed? Im not sure i used the right terminology, im just trying to figure out what stops at the fully closed position?
 
Thanks, Ursa, I briefly had a 111 but never took it apart... or even used it...
 
Thorns said:
Hey, I dont see a stop pin on the 111, is the blade hitting the back spacer when closed? Im not sure i used the right terminology, im just trying to figure out what stops at the fully closed position?
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ursa08 said:
Not my images, but you can see how its working...
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Good pics of the stop pin, Vlad. That must be an older 111 in S35VN, eh?

If you go back to post #974 in this thread, Thorns, you can see my breakdown pics that also show the chase through which the stop pin travels, butting up against the liner that includes the lock bar. The opposite side of a 111 is linerless with reliefs cut for the pivot underlay washer/ball bearing cage as well as for the backspacer.
 
Thank you ursa08 ursa08 and ChazzyP ChazzyP !
I recently joined the club my self, got a 111 in Elmax and G10, really love the knife. Its not custom shop, but I love Elmax steel personally, G10 over carbon fiber, and I still get the password for the Russian Speak easy. Also for flat cuts and fillets I dint want the fuller, so it was the knife for me. This is legitimately my favorite folder ever. The proportions of blade to handle, and shape of both really appeal to me, and when I found it the search was over for my dream folder.
Thing is so sharp.
Kept closing is and being amazed it wasn't dulling, so im glad you pointed that out!
Really awesome knife. its my every day carry now. Id recommend them.
Mine doesnt drop shut like y'all talk about, but i prefer that actually. I need to find me one of the pens at a good price.
 
Gents,
Anyone ever swapped a blade between, say and F95 and an F95T? I'm thinking I would love the Vanax 37 in my turtle to be in my Ti/CF scaled F95.

Just curious if the tolerances would allow it and still be smooth/solid and centered... or would it be a jacked-up mess. Only a curiosity at this moment, and we all know what that got the Cat for his troubles, but I may actually attempt this.
 
From the Shiro thread at another forum answered by the company spokesman:

I have two Shirogorov knives of the same model. Can I swap blades between them?
We recommend against it, as each knife is assembled and, more importantly, fitted and finetuned individually. You may experience worse performance of both of your folders should you choose to swap the blades. Also, swapping the blades would void the warranty.
 
Tony, I would also recommend against blade swapping, specially in swapping between a MRBS and SRBS!
 
I'm not sure there's anything to be lost by carefully trying, TRfromMT TRfromMT . I think the key would be if the blades are identical, both for locations/sizes of features--pivot and detent holes as well as cut-outs for stop pin and lock ramp--and for thickness. Your knives are from two different series, one older and one R, so that's a consideration. My two 95s--older SRBS T and newer R--have different blade thicknesses (4 mm for the T and the fairly rare 3.5 mm on the R) so I'd not even attempt mine.

All other things being equal, I don't know that one knife being SRBS with the other MRBS would make a difference. Of course, as CPP CPP has indicated in his post, the blade swap would void the warranty, but, reading the Shiro warranty with Google Translate, it does not seem that dis-assembly voids it. Damaging components thusly does, however, so one would have to be careful not to cause any swapping and re-swapping should one or both knives not operate or center properly after trying. Considering that the knives are hand-tuned and fitted at the Workshop, as has been stated, that could very well be the result.
 
ChazzyP said:
I'm not sure there's anything to be lost by carefully trying, TRfromMT TRfromMT . I think the key would be if the blades are identical, both for locations/sizes of features--pivot and detent holes as well as cut-outs for stop pin and lock ramp--and for thickness. Your knives are from two different series, one older and one R, so that's a consideration. My two 95s--older SRBS T and newer R--have different blade thicknesses (4 mm for the T and the fairly rare 3.5 mm on the R) so I'd not even attempt mine.

All other things being equal, I don't know that one knife being SRBS with the other MRBS would make a difference. Of course, as CPP CPP has indicated in his post, the blade swap would void the warranty, but, reading the Shiro warranty with Google Translate, it does not seem that dis-assembly voids it. Damaging components thusly does, however, so one would have to be careful not to cause any swapping and re-swapping should one or both knives not operate or center properly after trying. Considering that the knives are hand-tuned and fitted at the Workshop, as has been stated, that could very well be the result.
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I suppose I could keep the spacer and stop pin with the blade to match the spacing on the scales to the blade thickness if they are different (although I suspect they are identical). I doubt I'm going to do this, just a curiosity.... for now.
 
Casinostocks said:
Funny you ask that because @PharetH alluded to the same issues and had asked me the same question over at the Carothers Performance Knives subforum on this Site. After finding with them most of the afternoon, I've found that the NeOn Lite is a much better free dropper but both of them flip like a rocket (in fact, the HatiOn Lite may even be a little more rocketish!) but when it comes to free dropping, once I got the hang of the NeOn which is small in my hands just like the HatiOn Lite was, the NeOn free drops much more smoothly. I was not aware of such issues to this date and TBT, it doesn't bother me that the HatiOn Lite is more rigid other than the fact that its blade bit me once ever so slightly when dropping. As for the texturing on the CF side of the scale as compared to the Ti, yes its more noticeable when giving it the tactile exam, but as far as the grips go, the noticeable differences are negligible.
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Very interesting. Thanks for the reply. When I receive my HatiOn I’ll be letting either the neon or the HatiOn go. Be fun to compare both.
 
Not very enthusiastically into inlay scales, but if I was ever eager to own one, it'd be exactly what Tony has won. Another great score for TRfromMT :thumbsup:
 
I had one of my favorite work users with me today--my trusty F95T SRBS--working on a house I built twenty years ago. I'm outside doing waterproofing and re-siding on the ocean side in an area that couldn't have been designed more difficult to keep tight when storms blow in from the East. I took a break and hung out on the stainless and reclaimed longleaf staircase I built back when and took a few beauty shots of the Turtle there.

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