THE Hollow Handle Knife Thread

robgmn said:
this reminds me of customers i used to have that could tell me a million technical things about their car and about how i should do the performance work on it.
These were the same guys that would ride the clutch for a half block because they didn't know how to drive properly, and would bring the car to me because they'd try to do work themselves and screw it up (i charged extra if i had to re-do something that they did wrong the first time).

I don't claim to know or care a whole lot about edge geometry, heat treat, billet cleanliness, how a hollow handle causes a harder blade hit, etc.
I leave that stuff to the experts and i just make sure my knives do what they are supposed to do (no spine-whacks, no chopping nails in half, no combat ops on stacks of cardboard, etc). It's simple: A knife is for cutting.

And i wouldn't give a sh*t if my survival knife had micro chips in the edge as long as it helped me survive and get out of the woods alive if truly needed, which is certainly what gaston's blade could do, despite the edgework that makes me think you want a chef's knife to do paul bunyan work.




Gaston, you seem like an expert in factual stuff, and perhaps a perfectionist, but might miss the big picture.
What may help you see that big picture is to have someone drop you into a true survival situation with any one of the knives you have that you think suck.
Survive for a few days with only the knife.
You may find that micro imperfections become a lot less important than you thought they were (and learn a little about what blade & edge geometry makes the most sens for a survival knife).
A true survivalist would make do with a $10 knife from harbor freight and be damn glad to have it over nothing at all.

Use tools as they were meant to be used.
You want to chop down a tree? Use an axe.
You want to do some target practice? Buy a throwing knife.
You want to clear thick brush and branches from trees? Buy a kukri or a machete or a hand saw.
You need to survive in an emergency situation in the woods?
Get a survival knife that can do it all, but no one thing as well as the proper tool, since it's not the proper tool.
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exactly!!
 
Sam Wilson said:
Thank you, Mist. It is my SSII with a 3/16" thick blade of CPM 154. I made the prototype with a 5.5" blade, but this one is a little closer to 5.75", which I think is what I will go with in the future. Stainless guard and handle tube, obviously.

Sam :thumbup:
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Thanks Sam, I can't send you PMs so I sent you an email a few days ago




On another note, speaking of hollow handled knives, I was told as I grew up that lots of things don't grow on trees. Over the years I have figured out that among those things are great friends, great knives, and great knife makers. So if you guys don't mind me asking this, sending prayers and good energy Newtons way would be a good thing right now. He could use all the help he can get.

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Hey Mist, I didn't get an email, it must have got bounced. If you want, just send it to wilsoncustomknives@gmail.com. I need to re-up my membership anyway. Also, I'm with you on Newt. I have seen his updates on Facebook, and I am glad to see he is in positive spirits.

Sam :thumbup:
 
In my opinion...and it is Just my opinion...But the absolute Best Handmade First Blood style knife that is Not a Lile or a Lile Next Gen version, is a very rare one-only handmade First Blood movie knife that was made by Canadian Master Knifemaker Bill Schiller. And I'm not saying this because I an sooo blessed with owning it. But I am saying this because even though it's not a Spot-On First Blood movie knife look-alike. But everything about this knife is as close to perfect as I have ever seen regarding the Rambo/First Blood knife line! The grind lines are flawless, the blade is nice and near-perfect straight, and there is not One smidgen of gap between the handle guard and blade tang of the knife. It is tight, firm, and level.

And the handmade hollow handle...Ohhh Man... I've never felt a more solid, heftier handle on a FB knife than the one that is on this knife. And just like the excellent high quality 440C steel blade which takes and holds a Superior edge,...But the handle is made with a thick 440C steel, just as the guard And the endcap. I might be wrong regarding the handle. But I do know that it's made with either 416 hardened stainless steel or the 440C. But all else I am positive of.

Bill Schiller puts a lot of emphasis on the quality of all his knife handles. I learned that part of his excellent knife making phylosophy is that the handle on a knife is just as important as the blade and should be made as such!! Paired with a super quality handmade leather sheath by sheath maker and my very dear friend, Bob Schrap...Owning this supreme quality handmade knife and sheath set makes me feel like one very Blessed man!! I also have a Ray Matton handmade First Blood movie knife. Schiller is actually the one that mentored and taught Ray Matton knifemaking. He also gave Matton a priceless acknowledgment as Ray being a "Surpassing Knifemaking Student!" What does one say when he receives such a high complement from his teachor/ mentor??!!

My next awesome high end hollow handle knife I will mention hndere is my handmade Sly II style knife made by super knifemaker and my Brother-like good friend, Mr. Andrew Clifford. To me that name just Plainly Says It All. It it the definition name for Supreme Quality Handmade Knives And Sheaths. And besides, that is the exact reason why I own 5 high end handmade Andrew Clifford Knives, aka ACK, with a 6th one in the works!!

Now, my next 2 awesome handmade knives comes from a good Ole Southern knifemaker, and while his grandfather started the company years ago, and he himself has been part of the family knifemaking company for years, I just recently learned of him. And what is even better is that, just as I was raised partially in Louisiana, this knifemaker was born and raised in Louisiana as well, which makes him a Southern Brotherhood to me.

Anyway, his company is Big Custom Knives aka BCK knives and I mean he makes knives that are Straight Badass Serious. He makes one that he has named the SOS. And it is his version of the Randall #18 survival knife. But aside from the super quality of his handmade SOS survival knife, where I feel that the Randall #18 knife, while it is an absolute Bestie, it is just too light and too small. N9w, Enters the SOS knife by BCK. Tom, the knifemaker there, will make that knife with any thickness and any length of blade. The first SOS knife that I bought from Tom and BCK has a 9" D2 steel blade and D2 steel handle. Both are exceptionally hand grinded (blade) and hand hollowed (handle). The guard and endcap are both made of beautiful elequent Brass. The whole knife is beautifully Black powder coated and baked on. The blade, at 59° hrc, takes and holds and Unbelievable edge!

I tell you guys, I loved my new BCK SOS knife so freaking much that I bought a 2nd one. Except it has a 10.5" D2 steel blade. And both SOS knife blades are 5/16" thick at the spine! So far I have bought 6 high end BCK knives. I have 2 custom knives being made by Tom right now!! And with my Andrew Clifford Knives and my BCK knife collection, there's just no way that I will Ever be knife poor, especially in the high end handmade hollow handle knives area!! Please stay tuned for more great news Including pics!! Heh Heh Heh!! Thank Ye Fer-A Readin'!!
 
TAH, I've done posted pics of my knives way awhile back. I think you even commented on them. No real need to repost them unless they are just no longer on here. I will skim thru later on. If I can't see them then I might repost them, lol.

No offense buddy...Just that posting pics really isn't my favorite thing to do. LOL!!
 
I'm just goofin' on ya, beast. Your posts are so enthusiastic, they make me want to see the knives that you're describing. I would like to see a pic of your Bill Schiller knife. If you already posted a photo of it in this thread, let my know the post number and I'll take a look. Thanks! :thumbup:
 
TAH,

It's all good, buddy! Thanks for the wonderful compliment. Just for that...for your compliment to me, I will re-post my Bill Schiller Handmade First Blood knife. Stay Tuned...
 
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Here ya go TAH. My Handmade Bill Schiller very rare one-only in existence, First Blood knife and handmade custom fitted Bob Schrap leather sheath!!
 
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Here it is TAH...My Bill Schiller Handmade First Blood knife and custom Bob Schrap handmade sheath...I think this will work anyway...Trying to figure out this Photobucket.com mess, so bare with me! LOL!
 
There ya go TAH...A few of my high end handmade knives!! I will post more pics later...Including my #1, Proto #1 Handmade Andrew Clifford Knives Sly II Style Hollow Handle Knife!! Ohh well, wait a min..I will go ahead and post that one. STAY TUNED...
 
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Here it is...My Awesome Handmade Andrew Clifford Knives #1, Proto #1 Hollow Handle Sly II Style Knife!!
 
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Well there ya go Folks...Some were asking for pics and I answered their requests!! And this is just a smidgen sample of all of my high end handmade and high end production knives!!

And when you have about 70 of them like I do, you are Never knife poor!! Ha Ha!
 
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Heyyyy, this pic posting in here's getting to be a lot of Fun!! LOL!! Anyway, here is my Newest, Most Awesome st, Handmade Hollow Handle Knife. It is called the SOS Model and it's made by Big Custom Knives aka BCK...My newest and Personally Endorsed knife-making family-owned and operated company. Out of Slidell, Louisiana, Tom, who took over the company for his Granddad and his Dad, and his knifemaking buds that helps him out, hand forges, hand grinds, and hand makes every single knife.

This knife which is the BCK version of the Randall #18, sports a 10.5" D2 steel blade, 5/16" thick at the spine of the blade. The handle is hollowed out from the same type of steel...D2 steel. The guard and endcap both are Brass and are made by hand as well.

Then handle and blade are hardened with the blade heat hardened at 59° HRC...Absolutely Perfect for D2 steel and ideal for blade wear resistance and edge holding!!

This particular SOS knife is powder coated with a Black Powder Coating and then baked on. This knife is absolutely Stunning, full of heftiness and yet well balanced. Comes with a quick-draw style handmade non-strap leather sheath!!

I first bought one of these baddies with a 9" blade and loved it so damn much that when Tom and his pals at BCK was finished with a 10.5" long blade version, I jumped on it!! I just Had to get it. And you good folks here at Bladeforums.com, I am Soooo glad I did!!
 
thedemonbeast said:
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Here ya go TAH. My Handmade Bill Schiller very rare one-only in existence, First Blood knife and handmade custom fitted Bob Schrap leather sheath!!
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Thanks Beast. Now I remember your Schiller knife and Schrap sheath. That is a great looking package. What is the purpose of the double snap on the guard strap? I see there is only one male snap on the sheath in the other photo.
 
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