THE Hollow Handle Knife Thread

[sextant]

Maybe I should try and make myself a kit just like it - it should fit into my newest acquisition

 

[panzertroop]

Your nylon roll-up pouch was made by Bill Sanders, formerly with Timberline Knives. The pouch was an original Timberline idea from the early 80s. Bill Sanders and Vaughn Neeley still make and supply pouches with the survival knives they make under their own names.

Here's my Timberline pouch...

Thanks TAH! That is great info and also gives me ideas how to fill my kit out. Good stuff!

 

[TAH]

Thanks everyone! I do have a few comments on the pouch....

First, if you don't want to mess with trying to make one yourself, you might be able to purchase one from Bill Sanders or Vaughn Neeley. Both are very nice and would probably help you out.

Second, for those who are interested in making their own pouch. Tonight, I'll post the dimensions of my Timberline pouch for size reference.

Third, while the pouch does look cool and organizes and protects your survival items, IMO it isn't really practical. The nylon fabric takes up valuable space in the handle, which forces you to cut back on additional items (i.e. more matches, larger piece of fatwood, larger ferro rod, etc.) If I was in a survival situation and all I had was my knife, I'd want that handle packed with as much gear as possible.

 

[panzertroop]

That's a good point TAH! Rubber banding all your items together will give you more items to work with.

 

[thedemonbeast]

Did a little practicing starting a fire with just the fire steel I carry in my Martin surv9. I just cut some shavings and gathered a few dry leaves, sparked with the spine of my knife and fed a little more wood at a time.

Great job Dave. I have a friend who is an awesome sheath maker. His name is Bob Schrap. Anyway, the last few sheaths Bob has made for me, he had an idea to place an opening pouch on the Top of the sheath that would house and carry a firestarter key. His idea.really worked like a charm. And so now, anytime I ask him to make me a sheath for one my bowie or survival type.knives, I also have him add that little open pouch for a firestarter key. And best thing about it is that let's say I just dont need the firestarter. I dont slip it in that compartment. You cant even tell that something is Supposed to go there. It has no.bearing on the appearance of the sheath.without it. It was a fantastic idea.and was.all Bob's idea, lol!!

 

[cricketdave]

I've done a thin slit pouch like that for years for a scraper, usually a piece of hacksaw blade. Most of my knifes I have a pouch for a Altoids tin with all the extra stuff in. I want to keep this one pretty clean though. right now I'm keeping about 20ft of kevlar cord, a titanium razor blade, and fire steel in the handle. Next time I'm in walmart I'm going to look for a small cork sinker and some medium hooks and a couple of split lead weights. Need to dig up a tiny ziplock and stuff it with dryer lint too.

 

[TAH]

Tell me about the titanium razor blade. Do I need one of those?

 

[cricketdave]

Its just a handy little titanium razor blade with a hole in either end. It came in a e&e kit, along with a plastic handcuff key, rare earth magnets, arrow head, a card with tips and dental floss in it, a fire steel, compass, signal mirror and some map grid cards. I've used parts from the kit in a lot of other kits, there are ceramic razor blades available too, the intention is to put many of the items in the seams of your clothes if your traveling in unsafe area's and may need to use them to escape captivity. Not real likely for me anymore, but a good kit to have for a soldier overseas. I use it for any tiny fine cutting I need to do, or the backside for a fire steel scraper. Much easier to skin out a squirrel with it than a 9 inch knife blade.

 

[cricketdave]

Here is a pic of the titanium razor and kevlar and fire steel.

and I changed wrap color again lol, went with a tan and foliage cammo cord and I'm liking it.

 

[Mack]

Your nylon roll-up pouch was made by Bill Sanders, formerly with Timberline Knives. The pouch was an original Timberline idea from the early 80s. Bill Sanders and Vaughn Neeley still make and supply pouches with the survival knives they make under their own names.

Here's my Timberline pouch...

Would you please post the dimensions of the kit. I have an idea brewing and I think a few of us may agree with it.

 

[TAH]

Thanks for the razor photo, Dave.


Timberline nylon roll-up pouch dimensions:

Length side to side: 4 3/8"
Overall height opened: 2 7/8"
Pocket height: 2 1/4"
Average pocket width: 3/4"
Tie length: 6" each
Center pipe cleaner: 2 1/4"

My pouch has 6 rows of pockets. Vaughn Neeley has gone to five rows with no stitching running behind the pipe cleaner. Because of this change, the pockets are still spaced evenly, but are each a little wider. Don't forget the sides and top are folded in, so allow a little extra material. I have to admit the nylon pouch is classy.

Good luck! :thumbup:

 

[TAH]

Great looking CRK, Peter. It's a shame they're not made anymore. Congrats! :thumbup:

 

[thedemonbeast]

Hello,

As promised, here are pics of my awesome brand new Handmade Ray Matton First Blood Knife And Ray Matton Sly II style Sheath!

 

[cricketdave]

Looks pretty sweet I like the blade shape a lot. What is the string from the handle wrap sticking out is it coming undone?

 

[Sam Wilson]

Thanks everyone! I do have a few comments on the pouch....

First, if you don't want to mess with trying to make one yourself, you might be able to purchase one from Bill Sanders or Vaughn Neeley. Both are very nice and would probably help you out.

Second, for those who are interested in making their own pouch. Tonight, I'll post the dimensions of my Timberline pouch for size reference.

Third, while the pouch does look cool and organizes and protects your survival items, IMO it isn't really practical. The nylon fabric takes up valuable space in the handle, which forces you to cut back on additional items (i.e. more matches, larger piece of fatwood, larger ferro rod, etc.) If I was in a survival situation and all I had was my knife, I'd want that handle packed with as much gear as possible.

I agree with Tom on this. I include a type of pouch with my knives, and it is very handy for keeping things together and to make removal from the hollow handle easier. Mine is simpler than the very nice ones done by Bill Sanders and Vaughn Neeley. I simply take a rectangular piece of wax-impregnated, thin linen and fold the bottom up about a half-inch, and then roll it up and tie it. The string makes it easy to remove, and as shown in the Field Test video, you can cut a strip of the pouch off for emergency tinder. That being said, if it didn't serve the dual-purpose of being tinder, I doubt I would use it. It does take up valuable space, while not really contributing much else, unless its flammable. But as stated, it's definitely cool.

Here is what mine look like, very simple:

Hello,

As promised, here are pics of my awesome brand new Handmade Ray Matton First Blood Knife And Ray Matton Sly II style Sheath!

Demonbeast, that is a beautiful knife! Ray did an excellent job! You should be very proud, and I know that will give you a lot of satisfaction and enjoyment, not to mention bragging rights

Looks pretty sweet I like the blade shape a lot. What is the string from the handle wrap sticking out is it coming undone?

It looks like those are Ray's pictures, and I'm guessing that he took them as he was going along, to give updates. I'm sure the cord wrap is not coming undone. Ray does an amazing job. But I'm sure demonbeast will be able to answer that better than I.

 

[Sam Wilson]

I don't want to derail the thread here, but I would like to take a minute and say something. It isn't directly about Hollow Handle knives, but it is about a man who has had a great impact on the knife world in general, and HH knives as well. He is quite possibly the most collected knifemaker in the world, and has been a pioneer in the business for decades now. He is a very well respected maker, teacher, and friend to many, many people. He has had his knives in books, movies, attractions, restaurants, and pretty much anywhere else you might find a knife, and has done just about everything there is to do in the knife business, as well as making my personal favorite hollow handle knife of all time, the Rambo III Rescue Knife.

I am talking, of course, about Gil Hibben. Some of you may already know that he just had shoulder surgery earlier this week, and is recovering now. I don't know how long it is expected to take for recovery, but I'm sure Gil will soon be very anxious to get back in the shop and make knives, as he is a very hard worker, and enjoys his craft. Apparently the doctors were amazed that he was able to function as much as he did, given the condition of his shoulder. Just a further testament to his iron(maybe steel ) will and work ethic. I just wanted to put this out there for those that don't know, as I'm sure his family would appreciate the well wishes and knowing that people care so much about Gil. As he recuperates at home, his lovely wife Linda will be taking care of him, and I'm sure they would both appreciate knowing how many people truly care about this great couple who have done so much for the business, as well as other makers, giving selflessly to help others.

Thank you Gil&Linda, and get well soon!

Ok, now back to HH KNIVES!

 

[TAH]

Sam's flammable roll-up cloth is the best idea I have ever seen for protecting items and preventing rattle in a hollow handle knife. Still not sure about him doing chin-ups on his knives....alone....in his garage....with a video camera.

Gil Hibben....shoulder surgery

Gil is a good person. He gave me a tour of his shop many, many years ago. I wish him a quick recovery, but unfortunately, shoulders take a long time to heal. He will be out of the shop for six months if the doctor has his way. There is nothing more to say about Gil. He is one of the best!

 

[thedemonbeast]

Looks pretty sweet I like the blade shape a lot. What is the string from the handle wrap sticking out is it coming undone?

LOL Not at all dave.. The pics are actually from Ray. Ive not made any of my own pics yet. When he took these pics, Everything was made and finished as far as knife parts, stamping, the edge sharpened. But Ray had not Permanently assembed the knife. Thus, the cord was wrapped on there for pics Only. He then permanently put everything together. I will take my own pics later today. I have pics I could post but theyre with me in them also. And except for Facebook and a Few pics of me there, I don't really get into public pics of myself all over the internet. That being said, I guess me ever running for a public political office is out of the question, huh??!! LOL

 

[thedemonbeast]

I don't want to derail the thread here, but I would like to take a minute and say something. It isn't directly about Hollow Handle knives, but it is about a man who has had a great impact on the knife world in general, and HH knives as well. He is quite possibly the most collected knifemaker in the world, and has been a pioneer in the business for decades now. He is a very well respected maker, teacher, and friend to many, many people. He has had his knives in books, movies, attractions, restaurants, and pretty much anywhere else you might find a knife, and has done just about everything there is to do in the knife business, as well as making my personal favorite hollow handle knife of all time, the Rambo III Rescue Knife.

I am talking, of course, about Gil Hibben. Some of you may already know that he just had shoulder surgery earlier this week, and is recovering now. I don't know how long it is expected to take for recovery, but I'm sure Gil will soon be very anxious to get back in the shop and make knives, as he is a very hard worker, and enjoys his craft. Apparently the doctors were amazed that he was able to function as much as he did, given the condition of his shoulder. Just a further testament to his iron(maybe steel ) will and work ethic. I just wanted to put this out there for those that don't know, as I'm sure his family would appreciate the well wishes and knowing that people care so much about Gil. As he recuperates at home, his lovely wife Linda will be taking care of him, and I'm sure they would both appreciate knowing how many people truly care about this great couple who have done so much for the business, as well as other makers, giving selflessly to help others.

Thank you Gil&Linda, and get well soon!

Ok, now back to HH KNIVES!

GET WELL SOON GIL. MY SINCERE PRAYERS GO OUT TO THIS GREAT KNIFE MAKER AND HIS WIFE AND FAMILY!!!
I had the wonderful opportunity to meet and talk briefly with Gil and Linda his wife, at the Badger Knives Show last year. And I got my pic taken with Gil!! I tell you, that day I felt like I was a big star like Stallone, standing beside this awesome celebrity knife maker. LOL. It was a time in my life that I will always cherish and never forget!!!

 

[Nitro74]

Our prayers are with you Gil, get well soon,you're a great man.


That is one very good looking knife demonbeast.


Sam, love the wax empregnated linen pouch, great idea.