THE Hollow Handle Knife Thread

Interesting notion... I do not like soft grinds myself, but I can see how they can be used to hide some flaws... I don't know what is the cause of the series of "flats" on my hollow grind's left side, but it is interesting to note that they appear on the same side in the same place on two different blades, one polished out to acceptable "ghost" remains (18), the other polished to an even overall grit tone, but with the flats remaining distinct from a true hollow curve... I did note on sharpening that I could feel edge thickness variations as I sharpened the 14 (much more than on the 18), something I have never, never noticed on any other knife... This was more pronounced in the area where the diagonal flats met the edge... According to Gary there was nothing out of the ordinary in the finish, even though the flats were plainly visible, and this despite my attempts to sand them out with rough grit... We'll see how it comes out...

The Model 18 is out to Razoredgeknives today, so we will see how it shapes up compared to the Model 14...

I do find the guard issue is a bit beyond what anyone would expect, but I did find one thing very impressive about Randall guards: The radiusing/polishing of the silver soldering around the base of the blade is exceptionally well done, giving a very high impression of quality: Even though my Seki City Junglee Waterloo is far more precisely ground in the blade (probably the best I have seen in one of my fixed blades), the silver soldering on that is just a thin whitish "filler" at the base of the blade: It does the job but not more...

I just got an Al Mar "Special Warfare" (large), and it is not without flaws itself despite also being from Seki City: The clip grind's lower edges are deliberately done soft, but even so they are not symmetrical, and the point was actually curved to the right side: By hammering it for a while (between a magazine on top and a book below: No damage at all, fffew!), the point was brought back to perfect straightness: It is a bit too thin for my tastes, but useable... I think the error was one at the grinding stage, not an issue of cooling, as I am almost sure I actually had to "bend" the point to make it look straight... It is perfectly straight now, but the clip grinds are not 100% symmetrical, so the point is straight but very slightly off-center: No problem for me, but look at a the clip of a Chris Reeves one-piece to see how unthinkable such an assymetry would be on that (or fixing it with just cold hammering for that matter!)...

Besides that, this Al Mar has the most incredible surface finish I have ever seen on any of my knives, with no scratches at all, and this despite the thing being made in 1993... The handle is overly large, but sound in shape for several grip styles (unlike some of their SOG bowies, with alien finger grooving), and the overall impression this knife gives is just astounding. The blade is a full 1/4" thick all the way down 3/4 of the blade, and so despite the overly thin point, it feels much heftier than the beefier-looking Randall 18... The edge bevel itself is comparable in thinness, or more, to the Randall, but is also not very sharp new. It is pretty clear to me that in most performance aspects, except point strength, the Al Mar would perform much better than the Randall 18 or 14, either for combat or survival, and notably while chopping, despite the design being somewhat comparable to a "regular style" Model 14 in appearance... As I said, the thinned-out blade stock really hurts the Randall's blade heft in my opinion... All this for under $400 US, despite 23 years of out-of production appreciation...

One of the reasons I went for it was the "Eagle" nylon sheath, which proved excellent as usual, but is probably not "transferable" to my Randalls as I hoped... One of the key to Eagle sheath excellence is that they were taylor-made to each specific blade... The only weird thing with this sheath is that, for right-handed people, the Al Mar knife can only be presented edge-up -[EDIT]with a small bit of slicing at the sheath "mouth", the blade fits perfectly "edge down" now: It is tigher and sounder fitting now, and I think I was putting it upside down-... Nice big pouch on the Eagle sheath, so still a survival knife by my definition! Will post pictures soon, even if it is not a hollow handle...

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I did put the green bank line on my Boker Apparo, and it really "livened" its appearance... Thanks Dave!

Gaston
 
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That is a nice Al Mar i've always liked his knives. Glad the bank line arrived and looks good on the Apparo it is some tough strong line.
 
I think you will be very pleased when you get your knife, did you go for the stainless s35vn model?

I've kind of wanted one of the cheap Rambo copies to mess with too, the lines are different from the Martin Mce2 by quite a bit, its closer in size and looks to the Rambo 2 knife I think, at least from pics. Now I'm wanting to pick one up and take comparison pics. Crap.

Yes, I'm getting S35VN. I also ordered a lugged hilt and two tone finish. I pretty much maxed it out. It is supposed to be here in another week. Dang, should have ordered a Cayman while I was at it.

Hollywood Collectables are producing exact copies of Rambo FB1, FB2, ect. These are officially licensed and apparently have Sylvestor Stallones blessing and approval.

I've scrutinized the FB1 clone pretty closely and it seems to be spot on as far as dimensions and design. Like I said, the quality is about what you would expect for $100, but, even at that, the grinds and everything are pretty good.
It will be perfect for visual comparison purposes.

I think I will like the MCE2 even better than a next generation First Blood Lile since I won't be afraid to use it, and it cost me $1575 less than the Vaughn Neeley FB1. (Besides, it's probably a stronger knife)

I did get a lightly customized HTM Madd Maxx 7 to play with while I'm waiting for the MCE2. I am about done buying knives and I wanted to get a couple of outrageous blades to end it all.

I figure these two blades, a folder and a fixed, are the coup de grace to my knife buying. Not much else out there interests me anymore.
 
Received my Blacked out MCEII last week from Newt. Not sure what my expectations were but this exceeded them! Feels great in the hand and sure it will do everything I need it to. Only casualty was a dead compass, will not move at all. Sure Newt will take care of that with no problem. Here are some pics before she gets soiled! .......and wrapped with SOS Orange cord some day. My 1st Martin.....not my last!

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Looks great Sled I like that all blacked out a lot, the orange cord will sure stand out when you rewrap it. Newt will take care of the compass no problem I'm sure. The sheath is really well done too and the taper of the blade to the point sure makes for a nice balance. Congrats I look forward to seeing some pics of it in use.
 
Thank you sir. It's a lot lighter than I was expecting....very quick and nimble. Thinking the S35vn is a lot more substantial.

It will be used and pics will be posted!

And thanks for all your advice!
 
Nope they weigh pretty much exactly the same, that taper really makes it quick in the hand. Now the Surv9 without saw teeth is much heavier. Both chop very well though and work great as all around knives. I'm glad you like it!
 
Very cool looking in all-black like this, Sled... Great pics as well...

I'm hesitating on my Randall 18's Cerakoat color, since I've seen there is a Coyote Brown Spec Ops sheath: I'm thinking about it being Coyote Brown overall, if the color exists in Cerakoat... Combined with the brown Spec-Ops sheath, it would give it a more "purpose built" look...

The Cerakoat paint is unavoidable in my opinion, because I find Randall's O-1 carbon steel to be very stain prone, more so than most other carbon steels I have seen... Too much trouble: I went by blade shape as a first criteria, but I failed to notice the missing "S" next to the Randall logo...

I didn't send in the pommel to recoat, so it will remain brass colored: I don't think that is a big deal, because it will be set off against the black cord anyway, so the rest of the color doesn't interact with it... I'm vaguely wondering if a green Spec Ops sheath with a green overall color would go better with a brass pommel...

I have made a crude rendering of what my actual guard-modified knife would look like in a sort of light gray with black cord, and I'm thinking light gray is not it... I was hoping for it to look like a Parrish, but it doesn't... Green or Coyote Brown, with matching sheath, would be better I think...

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Gaston: If cerakote is the way you're going, Coyote brown or Black would be my choice. Great looking knife by the way!
 
Thanks Sled. I was looking for someone's opinion... Colors can be hard to figure out. This is the Spec Ops Combat Master sheath I chose for it, because I figured the multiple colours would stand up better to staining, like it does for carpets...:

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I won't go for an all-black knife because I already have the Chris reeves Jereboam, and that is all the black I can take in my collection... I was even tempted to strip the blade on that at one point, but given it is carbon A-2, I'm glad I avoided that... (Although it seems A-2 is definitely less stain-prone than most carbon steels).

Given that this sheath is mostly green, I'm still thinking about green, but it would depend on the available shade, or if the knife will stay with the original leather (the Spec Ops sheath would then go for the 14, as its leather sheath finish was inadvertantly damaged: Remember 14 and 18 sheaths have different snap strap lengths, and are not interchangeable)...

Gaston
 
foliage green is pretty grey i'd go more od green if it was me. That or coyote brown, or flat dark earth, both shades work well with other colors, you could go od green for the sheath and that with a green blade or tan/coyote/dark earth and it would look sharp.
 
I just got the sheath and the green is much lighter than OD (more like a medium greenish gray), so OD green would be too dark: I contacted Josh and went with an equivalent of Coyote Brown on the 18, though Razoredgeknives calls the similar Cerakoat color "magpul FDE" instead....

The other contrasting colors on the sheath are similar to brown/beige, so it should look fine.

I have both the black and camo sheath now, and the camo looks quite a bit more impressive, even if quality is the same: Camo is worth the few extra bucks... Because the fabric is quite tough and rough, after a while the black picks up obvious lint particles that shows up clearly on the black. This doesn't quite happen as much with the smoother old Eagle nylon sheaths, so here a camo colour would seems to help.

One issue with the "universal" adjustable retaining strap/snap (an excellent basic concept, very well executed here) is that it has its distance to the "mouth" of the sheath much larger on the camo sheath compared to the black one (a production tolerance it seems), so much so that with the model 14 the camo sheath strap would wrap on the second finger groove and not the first, as it would on the black sheath... On a hollow handle the difference is visually not as obvious, but I wish the makers would understand how important it is to keep the knife from moving out by situating the strap as close to the sheath "mouth" as possible, so that the strap presses right against the guard: I'm thinking now only the Model 14 would be held perfectly still in the camo sheath... This is a basic design feature I wish all "universal" generic sheaths would understand to get right...

I cut the stitching of the snap, and will have to re-sew it lower...

Gaston
 
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I know this is probably a long shot, but here goes. I am searching for a Robert Parrish hollow handle 8" survivor knife. My father knew Robert personally back in the 80's and had one of these knives while in the military. He bought directly from Robert. We use to visit his shop in Hendersonville quite often as we lived in Saluda NC. After Robert closed his shop and my dad retired from the military, my brother stole and sold my dads knife. I have been searching for a very long time for a replacement for him. That knife was his pride and joy. It would be the greatest gift in the world if I could find one to buy, or if anyone knows how to get in contact with Robert, any help would be greatly appreciated. My number is 843-858-1711. My name is Jeremy Dukes. I am very serious in this matter. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Hey guys, I'm actually new to this forum, I know, I know, I should of been on here years ago but at least I'm here now. Ok here goes, I do build knives in my spare time and ONLY hollow handle knives, I'm having a problem finding my handles, USA knife makers is were I usually order my handles from which are made really nice but there on back order for I believe another 6-8 weeks. Can anyone help me find the same quality handle anywhere? I just designed my pattern and tomarrow I'm starting this knife, I guess I can upload a pic of the design just for something for you guys to check out. Hope everyone likes it.
 
F27 I haven't seen a parish knife for sale in a long time, you might keep looking on eBay they do sometimes pop up.

Radicalbearpaw you put the [ img]on the front of your pic address minus the extra space and the [ /img] after your pic address again minus the extra space.

Hope thats some help to you both

and just for fun a pic from the other night
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Nope, when you open your pic you need to right click or left depends on your computer and then copy picture address. Past that to your replay and add the img with brackets before the http and at the end add /img with the brackets again.
 
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