The idiot's guide to the AR-15 rifle (or an idiot building one)

From what I've read and figured out and been told in my quest of all quests over the last few months is that for a new rifle, no cheaper than $800 to get something worth owning.

Anything you spend beyond that buys you increased reliability and longevity.

Around $1200 seems to be the pricepoint to get a decent, reliable, quality gun. Something Mil-spec that will last for a long time and go bang when you want it to.

Seems that going beyond that, your buying extras and accessories or your buying a name or many names that aren't nessesarily any better.

YMMV though.
 
From what I\\\'ve read and figured out and been told in my quest of all quests over the last few months is that for a new rifle, no cheaper than $800 to get something worth owning.

Anything you spend beyond that buys you increased reliability and longevity.

Around $1200 seems to be the pricepoint to get a decent, reliable, quality gun. Something Mil-spec that will last for a long time and go bang when you want it to.

Seems that going beyond that, your buying extras and accessories or your buying a name or many names that aren\\\'t nessesarily any better.

YMMV though.

Right on!

$1200 is a good estimate for the costs of a quality AR build. $1200, give or take $100, will get you into a Daniel Defense, Colt, LMT, or BCM.

But like my grandfather used to say, you do not really own a firearm until you own all the support gear. For an AR the minimum would be a sling, mags (I tell people to get at least 8), ammo and training. Do not over look quality training! My personal baseline is the previously mentioned items plus more mags, an Aimpoint or ACOG, and a white light. It is easy to spend right past $3000 on a well configured rifle not to mention things like back up iron sights, vertical foregrips, rail covers, and better grips - all of which are useful when you actually train with them and understand why you are adding it to the rifle. Do not add the cool guy gear without an understanding of why you adding it! This understanding will come from training.
 
I\'m a lefty. How friendly is the AR for southpaws?

I shoot regularly with 2 lefties who run regular ARs very effectively. In fact somethings work even better for them! Neither will consider the Stag lefty builds for several reasons.

1. They get by just fine without them.

2. They are full of sub-par parts, 1 in 9 inch twist, lack of MP and HP testing, etc

3. You need a special BCG. This means that in order have a decent BCG you would have to replace the bolt with a quality one and use the wierd lefty carrier after you stake it properly. I am not sure whether the bolt is also proprietary which would make things even worse.

If you are able to take training from a quality instructor like Pat Rogers, Larry Vickers, and others, they will be able to help you deal with running an AR as a lefty. Then, after you have some experience, you will be able to make informed decisions on which, if any, ambi-controls you will use. There are ambi versions of just about ever control on an AR. However, most of the lefties that I know just use ambi-safeties and leave everything else alone. Heck, there are good reasons for righties to have ambi-safeties.
 
What kind of tools do you guys use on your AR's? Like the Armourer's Multi-tool, forearm removers, and such?
 
An AR wrench, aluminum barrel clamp, upper receiver clamp and something to hold the lower reciever. I made a piece out if some hardwood and hold it with the vice. Like a magazine well stand.
Other small tools.
 
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I'm a lefty. How friendly is the AR for southpaws?

I'm right handed but left eyed dominant so I should left handed. I have never shot a left handed rifle other than bolt actions. I have never had a problem shooting a standard (right handed) AR platform.
 
Yeah, they are battery powered. But the newest "F" revision of them will run hundreds of hours on one set. Plus the new ones use AA batteries instead of the button cells.

As someone that has owned EoTech and had a department run them before, I can tell you from personal experience with a number of Revision F units that they still eat AA batteries like they are going out of style and they still have wandering zeros...

There are many reasons why Aimpoints are seen to be the most dependable, reasons where Eotechs show numerous weaknesses, why the 553's were not allowed to be deployed by SOCCOM and were removed from service, and why Aimpoint once again won the contract to provide the M68's still.
 
As someone that has owned EoTech and had a department run them before, I can tell you from personal experience with a number of Revision F units that they still eat AA batteries like they are going out of style and they still have wandering zeros...

There are many reasons why Aimpoints are seen to be the most dependable, reasons where Eotechs show numerous weaknesses, why the 553's were not allowed to be deployed by SOCCOM and were removed from service, and why Aimpoint once again won the contract to provide the M68's still.

Amen and amen.

I said a while back that I would put down some thoughts about optics, so I guess this is as good a time as any.

Red Dot Sights (RDS) - This is basically a two horse race in my book (yes, there are others but no where near as common) - Aimpoint and EOTech. I have owned multiples of both. The EOTechs just have too many strikes against them - the turn off automatically after a predetermined amount of time, the battery springs eventually compress under recoil, and the battery life is short and no where near what is advertised in my experience. They have some big upsides like use of AA batteries, well designed reticle, and large "viewing window" but, sadly, these positives are out weighed by the glaring negatives. I understand that the new EOTechs use a different battery orientation that cures the compression problems which is a step in the right direction.

Aimpoints are rugged, they stand up to heat well, they have amazing battery life (I never turn mine off), and they just work. There are sizes and battery configurations available for any application. I own Comp M2s, Comp ML2s, a Comp M3, T-1, and M4 and they are all great. I simply can not say enough good about them. They are the measuring stick by which all RDS are measured. They play second fiddle only to iron sights in terms of reliability. Once you learn to use one as effectively and efficiently as possible (both eyes open, target focus), they are extremely fast and accurate. 300 yard hits on 12" steel are no problem.

When in doubt, just get an Aimpoint.

Magnified Optics - Col. Cooper used to say that magnified optics don't make you shoot better, they make you "see better". Magnified optics are not a crutch. Learn to shoot well with and without them.

ACOGs are great optics. Learn to really use the BAC concept (hint: it works with every magnified optic, not just ACOGs). ACOGs use well designed reticles that promote fast acquisition and many have ranging/hold overs built in. The reticles are pure genius - no dialing clicks, no kentucky windage, just find the hash that fits the shoulders, and squeeze. They are EXTREMELY rugged and need no batteries. The biggest downside is that, even if you have complete command of the BAC concept, they are slower than a RDS. I have also seen really great groups shot on targets up close with ACOGs; the only problem is that it was on the wrong target - field of view is limited. To mitigate the field of view issues, learn to shoot well with both eyes open (which is a large part of the BAC concept).

Variable power optics can be great, especially 1-4X types. ARs are really hitting that hard out past 300 yards so 4X magnification is typically more than enough for all but the most precise applications. On 1X these scopes can be quite fast but they still aren't in the same league as Aimpoints. There will be some distortion, some field of view issues, and it will still seem somewhat like you are looking through a toilet paper tube. These optics are a compromise. They do a bit of everything without being truly great at anything. That doesn't mean they don't work. I am especially fond of the Trijicon Accupoint line and the S&B Short Dot (the Cadillac).

Whatever you choose, I caution you to research and not go cheap. With optics, more so than just about anything else firearm related, you tend to get what you pay for. There are brand new Aimpoints that can be had for less than $400. You can find them even less than that on the secondary market. I have purchased used Aimpoints for as little as $200 before.

I would also caution you to put some thought into how you mount your optic. Don't cheap out here either. The typical ways of mounting an optic don't always apply on an AR so buy a mount designed for the AR. Low rings won't work. Be wary of eye relief issues. I like Larue mounts. Every one of my ARs wears one. Bobro and American Defense also make good mounts.

In case you are wondering (you probably aren't :) ), all of my ARs (and AKs) wear Aimpoints except for one, which has an ACOG (TA11G).
 
In regards to optics, I bought an EOTech when I got my rifle but I really wish I had bought an Aimpoint T1. Take a look at those on a LaRue mount if you are looking into optics. The H1 will also work at a slightly lower price.
 
For anyone considering building an AR, please take some time to research and familiarize yourself with this chart put together by Rob S.: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pwswheghNQsEuEhjFwPrgTA&gid=5

Sadly, gun shops are typically very poor places to get information on ARs. Parts are not parts. If someone says something like "Brand X is just as good as Brand Y and costs half as much." you can safely stop listening to them. There are reasons why some items cost a lot. That doesn't mean to have to buy the most expensive stuff to get good stuff.

As people who appreciate the little (and sometimes big) differences that make RAT Cutlery knives better than other knives that cost less (and often knives that cost more), you should take some time to learn what makes some AR components better than others. Things like intense QC, HP and MP testing, better alloys, taper pins, properly sized gas ports, H buffers, and proper springs cost more but in the end make for a better product.

In my experience, the lower that you use make almost no difference as long as it is in spec (yes, I have had out of spec cheap lowers).

Quality lower parts kits are hard to find. It used to be that you could get LMT parts kits that were great. Colt kits are pretty much the best but will run about $200. G&R makes a great lower parts kit but you have to buy a lower from them to get one. Until recently we were stuck with CMT or RRA which both leave a bit to be desired. I had better luck with the CMT parts kits. Now Daniel Defense has filled the niche for an affordable LPK. They can be had for $70ish and it is a TOP QUALITY kit with every metal part in the kit made right there at DD. You can avoid all sorts of breakage and tolerance stacking issues by sticking with a good LPK.

The upper is probably the most important place for you to not skimp. Most of what makes an AR reliable happens here. The main things you want to look for is that your bolt carrier group is MP tested, shot peened, and properly staked. If a manufacturer takes to the time to do all that, their BCGs are good to go. Look for a barrel that is HP tested and MP tested. MP testing is of less value on barrels unless they HP tested first (CMMG used to MP test only which is kind of misleading, I am not sure if this is still the case). These things and others are explained in the chart I linked to above.

I will no longer consider barrels with twists slower than 1 in 8" (no more 1 in 9" barrels for me). The versatility of the 1 in 7" and 1 in 8" barrels is excellent. Both will handle everything from 55gr on up to heavier projectiles like 75gr and 77gr. Remember, it is not the weight that dictates what twist you need, but rather the overall length of the projectile. Heavier projectiles are generally longer projectiles so it is usually easier to refer to them by weight rather than talking in hundredths and thousandths of inches.

I think the least expensive way to get most of the features above, is to just buy a complete Daniel Defense rifle or upper (if you already have a lower built). They can be had quite inexpensively if you know where to shop.

I would also point out that due to some of the nuances of the direct impingement gas system, a thousand slow fire rounds from a target bench may not give you the whole picture in terms of reliability. I had Bushmasters and Rock Rivers that would shoot great from the bench or when I was piddling around on the range. Taking your carbine to a high volume training class will tell the whole story. When hot gas is being dumped quickly into the chamber and things start getting hot, things get harry and sometimes things break. Training is so valuable because it tells you if your rifle works, if your gear works, and most importantly, if you work.

I don't mean to step on the toes of those who own any of the brands that I have listed in a somewhat negative light. I will say that I can back up what I have written here with a fair amount of time and experience invested in this stuff. There are Bushmasters (or RRA, or Delton, or whatever) that serve their owners very well. But it is more of a crap shoot. There really is no such thing as a free lunch anymore.

I could go on and on about more features that you may want to look for but I fear I am already getting too long winded. If I get a few moments later, I may type up some off my experiences with optics (hint: there are reasons that I own 7 Aimpoints). The chart really is a good resource so I suggest starting there.

I can't say it better than this, or emphasize these points enough. If you are looking for an AR for looks, occasional range time with a bench, or minimal shooting, then ignore the above post and pretty much see what you can get for cheap. If you're looking for a system that you want to stake your life on, invest in the higher grade parts, test them out by running your carbine hard at conditions similar to a high-round count training course, and look at the features that are touted as the ones to have. The quality control makes such a difference. The myth that the same company makes all the parts for everyone is a myth. However, PartMaker has a batch of parts that have the smallest tolerances, the best materials, and the highest grade of quality. They cost more, and they sell them to AR Company A, who sells them at a markup that makes them a higher retail.... The next batch of parts is made with a slightly lower grade material, and thus is cheaper to make and maybe has character flaws that will make it have a shorter life. They are cheaper to make, and AR Company B buys them and sells them for cheaper. Then you have the ones that just don't meet spec... AR Company C buys them, says they got them from the same company that makes AR Company A's parts, and they are just as good but as a much lower cost...

To echo the 1/7" twist recommendation, unless I was getting a gun to shoot varmints where I was going to purposely use very lightweight bullets in the 45-52 gr range, I would go with the 1/7. It shoots 55 gr just fine for what most of us are using them for, and allows for the flexibility of shooting the heavier ones as well. Lots of rumors regarding the 1/7 vs the 1/9's as well.

If you're saving up for an upper, look hard at Bravo Company Manufacturing (BCM). Buy one of them with a BCM Bolt Carrier group, and you can eliminate a lot of the BS that comes with various AR homebuilds in the first place, and you will have something quality-wise that many people already are staking their lives on.
 
The direct gas system is more accurate in terms of competition shooting, but the piston is much more reliable since there's no carbon being shot back into the chamber. The gas system is also a cheaper way to go on a build. The amount of carbon those things generate is amazing, I've cleaned my life's worth in the Corps., of course now that I'm out they're going to a pistion set up. It'll be neat to see the progress of your build on the thread. If you can pull it in at about $1000 that'll be a damn good price. Build on brother!

I'm not worried about the reliability of the various DI gas systems... have you seen how many thousands upon thousands of rounds the guns Pat Roger's has his students test go through? Keep them lubed, and they're going to run. I wouldn't even worry about cleaning. Just squirt some lube on the bolt every 500-700 rounds.

The BCM guns he has the students running are running as well as the LWRC piston guns he was testing. I shot one of the LWRC's, and while they turned out to be very reliable, the BCM's are just unreal as well... The three LWRC's had a combined total of around 75k rounds shot through them. I don't know specifically where the BCM's are at, but they're over 15k each at least...
 
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