The Knife Life (Minor Topics and Random Stuff Thread)

AntDog said:
Guys, it's ALL resin of some sort. Every man made handle material is some type of fibers suspended in some type of resin or epoxy. It's just what used to be broadly referred to as "phenolic", basically.

I can guarantee you that carbon fiber handle material made of shredded carbon fiber is no less strong than carbon fiber made of stacked up woven sheets. The only difference would be the look.
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You sure about that? I don't see bike frames made outta silver shred:p

I always thought the strength came from the fibers themselves and the weave, not the resin. Otherwise what would be the point of even making all of those little strands of carbon fibers and weaving them together?

Obviously when we're talking about knife scales, there's not going to be a noticable difference in strength between the two, but I'm sure it's there when the materials are pushed to their limits.
 
Also, I don't think I would ever use carbon fiber as a handle material on a knife I knew might get used hard or knocked around.
I've had it on a few knives, and I really don't baby my knives. I'm not abusive on them, but I use them like the tools they are. The carbon fiber handles I had looked like 10 miles of bad road after a while.
On a knife I intend to use pretty hard I prefer canvas micarta. It doesn't seem to dent, chip, or scratch as easily, or at least when it does it doesn't show it as readily.
You guys probably know all this, but just wanted to put it out there.
 
Krissig12 said:
Obviously when we're talking about knife scales, there's not going to be a noticable difference in strength between the two, but I'm sure it's there when the materials are pushed to their limits.
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Sure, of course. That's the context I was talking about. I'm sure NASA wouldn't use "decorative" CF on the space shuttle either!
I have no experience with CF bicycle frames, but I would imagine they'd use it in that application for it's weight, rather than it's strength.
Dang, now I wanna see a carbon fiber bicycle frame tested for torsional rigidity and it's ability to withstand impacts! See the tangent you created? Lol!
 
AntDog said:
Also, I don't think I would ever use carbon fiber as a handle material on a knife I knew might get used hard or knocked around.
I've had it on a few knives, and I really don't baby my knives. I'm not abusive on them, but I use them like the tools they are. The carbon fiber handles I had looked like 10 miles of bad road after a while.
On a knife I intend to use pretty hard I prefer canvas micarta. It doesn't seem to dent, chip, or scratch as easily, or at least when it does it doesn't show it as readily.
You guys probably know all this, but just wanted to put it out there.
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Sure, that's why my ESEE and ontarios don't have CF scales.

My CF folders don't see super hard use so I have no way knowing for sure, but I think they could probably take almost anything short of dropping them on concrete from 6 feet. As for scratches, It's no worse than plain Ti scales or g10
 
AntDog said:
Sure, of course. That's the context I was talking about. I'm sure NASA wouldn't use "decorative" CF on the space shuttle either!
I have no experience with CF bicycle frames, but I would imagine they'd use it in that application for it's weight, rather than it's strength.
Dang, now I wanna see a carbon fiber bicycle frame tested for torsional rigidity and it's ability to withstand impacts! See the tangent you created? Lol!
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Haha!

I think it's the strength AND the weight. And there's probably a pretty big difference between the CF we use for knife handles and the kind found on either bike frames or space shuttles. Like you said, the stuff for knives is mostly just decorative.
 
The CF scales will surely take the damage, but they might look like hell. Mine sure did. Mine were full of scratches, dings and dents. I'm not knocking CF - I LOVE how it looks, but it was hard for me to keep it looking good. I wish you the best of luck with yours. The cool thing is that you can polish out the scratches if they bother you. :)
 
I've dealt with crotch rocket frames (FRAMES! on 180 hp bikes!) and swing arms made from carbon fiber. Some F1 cars use CF for their shells and brake rotors. Engineered right its strong as all get out. For scales? Just pretty I'm sure.
Would be kinda cool to see a composite knife like the kershaw jyd with CF instead of stainless and a D2 cutting edge....
 
WuGod said:
I've dealt with crotch rocket frames (FRAMES! on 180 hp bikes!) and swing arms made from carbon fiber. Some F1 cars use CF for their shells and brake rotors. Engineered right its strong as all get out. For scales? Just pretty I'm sure.
Would be kinda cool to see a composite knife like the kershaw jyd with CF instead of stainless and a D2 cutting edge....
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Man, I swear I've seen something like that. It was a while back on a website specializing in custom knives. Bladeart.com maybe? It had a tanto blade and the outside layers were CF.
 
WuGod said:
I've dealt with crotch rocket frames (FRAMES! on 180 hp bikes!) and swing arms made from carbon fiber. Some F1 cars use CF for their shells and brake rotors. Engineered right its strong as all get out. For scales? Just pretty I'm sure.
Would be kinda cool to see a composite knife like the kershaw jyd with CF instead of stainless and a D2 cutting edge....
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AntDog said:
Man, I swear I've seen something like that. It was a while back on a website specializing in custom knives. Bladeart.com maybe? It had a tanto blade and the outside layers were CF.
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Until recently, I had no idea this type of thing existed. But I definitely saw one on here not too long ago. Freaking cool AF!

But how in the hell do they get it "attached" (for lack of a better word) to the steel? You can't weld it, that's for damn sure
 
Found one

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AntDog said:
That is beautiful! I bet it wouldn't stay that way though. I'd put that one away for the kids to sell.
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Yep, it looks like there's not many of them being used too hard. More of a novelty I think

Still fun to look at though:thumbup:
 
I've got a question that doesn't merit it's own thread: if you flame color titanium, for one thing, does it make it brittle, and does the color stay permanently? Also, for those who have done it - how difficult is it?
 
AntDog said:
I've got a question that doesn't merit it's own thread: if you flame color titanium, for one thing, does it make it brittle, and does the color stay permanently? Also, for those who have done it - how difficult is it?
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The color is not permanent (it is, but can be removed with abrasives or Multi Etch), it's more durable than electro anodizing, it usually does not weaken the Ti (if you follow procedure and stay careful). The most difficult part is getting even coloring, and not leaving ugly dark spots from essentially burning the finish.
 
Alright, so how's everone doing? Anything new in the knife life?

I'm still waiting on my custom. Hopefully itll be done soon. Dario says any day now, so I'm resisting the urge to send emails every five minutes

The cf is going to be fancier than I had initially assumed, but I think it'll look pretty great. He says it's not too slipperly either, so that's good

Here's a video he sent me of one of his folders with the type of cf he'll be using:

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Got some new pics from Dario today. He's just finishing up the cf scales and the knife will be done and shipped out on Monday:thumbup:

Grinding the FFG and tapering the tang

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