The Problem with Buck Liner Locks

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Makael said:
Buck doesn't set out to make knives that get sloppy quickly. it just happens. Ford or Chevy don't set out to make vehicles that break down either but it happens. Planes shouldn't crash, Ammo should always fire, Tires shouldn't blow, trains shouldn't derail. etc.

There are things that happen that are just plain going to happen no matter how hard their are designed not to.
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Very Well Said! No One can perform 100%, 100% of the time. So the most important thing becomes how well it is handled when it falls short.

I do not like slippies at all because in my uses it is to easy for the blade to close on you. However I don't think a lock back is intended to take the place of a fixed blade, but to prevent it from closing on you under general use.
 
JD Bear said:
Exactly. I'm not quite sure the reasoning behind this thread. I'm sure this could be said about any liner lock if someone was to misuse it.
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I have to agree!
Now that I have watched the videos. This has been pointless time lost I will never get back.
1st video, in 40 years of using a knife daily I have never applied that type of pressure on any knife, let alone in a manner in which it would close up on me.

2nd video, it appears to be inline so I would think that's sufficient.

And I'm not even a fan of linerlocks.
 
I guess I need to find a pair of those fancy gloves so I can play with my folding knives. All these years I just used Band-Aids...:D:p:rolleyes:


Oh yeah, Happy Friday the 12th....o_Oo_O
 
Makael said:
Below is a small piece of what Buck does for alot of people. Knocking their liner lock which is no different than any other liner lock is a shame. People will read your post and second guess a purchase.
So if you could check out the positive then the negative isnt so big.
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So you are saying we can assume the issues that are present in Buck liner lock knives will be there in other liner lock knives?
 
JD Bear said:
Exactly. I'm not quite sure the reasoning behind this thread. I'm sure this could be said about any liner lock if someone was to misuse it.
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So a demonstrated failure of a Buck liner lock indicates a misuse?

Should we say that when using a Buck knife with a liner lock there should be no sideways pressure placed on the knife, or are you suggesting no sideways pressure should be used when using *any* liner lock knife?
 
st8yd said:
I have to agree!
Now that I have watched the videos. This has been pointless time lost I will never get back.
1st video, in 40 years of using a knife daily I have never applied that type of pressure on any knife, let alone in a manner in which it would close up on me.

2nd video, it appears to be inline so I would think that's sufficient.

And I'm not even a fan of linerlocks.
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The second video shows a Buck 290 Rush liner lock not fully engaged. The liner lock is not yet "over center" and has to be manually pushed into place to prevent accidental closure. Thus, it is not "inline."

I suppose the point of a locking mechanism on a folding knife is to prevent accidental closure. People do unexpected things, the point is to not loose a finger because the designer of Buck's liner lock didn't forsee that useage.
 
Stephen W Huyssoon said:
So a demonstrated failure of a Buck liner lock indicates a misuse?

Should we say that when using a Buck knife with a liner lock there should be no sideways pressure placed on the knife, or are you suggesting no sideways pressure should be used when using *any* liner lock knife?
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Watching your video you could see the sideways bend of the handle. This caused the frame lock to move away from the blade. As many years as Buck has made a frame lock I dont recall anyone using a knife in such a manner that would duplicate what you posted. Thats all.
you singled out Buck Frame locks. you know as well as I do that there are lots of liner lock knives that if you put sideways pressure on and it moves, the lock bar will move with it. Some of the knives are stouter than others and wont budge. but to state a case against all buck liner locks is where you received responses.

with your gloves on I would imagine you could twist and bend a Buck Bantam to the point of failure. what would be the point of it? to bash Buck about it?
 
Stephen W Huyssoon said:
The second video shows a Buck 290 Rush liner lock not fully engaged. The liner lock is not yet "over center" and has to be manually pushed into place to prevent accidental closure. Thus, it is not "inline."

I suppose the point of a locking mechanism on a folding knife is to prevent accidental closure. People do unexpected things, the point is to not loose a finger because the designer of Buck's liner lock didn't forsee that useage.
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The liner locks self adjust over usage. ( This means the Liner lock will slowly work its way to a sweet spot against the blade.) this is the spot the lock and blade will be married for a certain amount of time and wear and tear. ANY MANUFATURER OF A LINER LOCK will have lockup that is early and lockup that is late. Theres no manufacturing method of doing it different. Were talking a nats ass difference between one knife and another built next in line.

But they all break in. thats best part.
 
Stephen W Huyssoon said:
The second video shows a Buck 290 Rush liner lock not fully engaged. The liner lock is not yet "over center" and has to be manually pushed into place to prevent accidental closure. Thus, it is not "inline."

I suppose the point of a locking mechanism on a folding knife is to prevent accidental closure. People do unexpected things, the point is to not loose a finger because the designer of Buck's liner lock didn't forsee that useage.
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If you manually push the liner lock over you run the risk of lock stick.
 
STEELHEADBULLY said:
Threads need pictures, most of my liner lock Bucks, at least the ones I could easily find, no issues

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but honestly when I'm ready to kill something, I don't have time to unfold my knife. KALINGA STYLE:D:D:D

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You are smart like me to wear cut proof gloves. But there is no level 12. You need to work on your Buck Defenders training.

Tell us, do you carry that Kalinga around with you so you can be ready to kill something? Because it's pretty heavy. I think, perhaps, you are attempting to make my little thread here appear ridiculous. Well... I suppose you are just doing what any Buck Defender would do.
 
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