The truth about Fällkniven S1 Pro

Fallkniven has been tested and passed Us requirements. Are you saying the Us military has been Duped by a slick Con Artist? Are you saying they seriously couldn’t test the Fallkniven knives to the exact strict requirements. Becouse they did test the Mad Dog /War Dog knife company ATAK that was made for the Us Navy. Perhaps Bobby Garza,Marc Bennaron,Aubrey Moore along with Seal Team Six must have been Duped in believing the Testing was sufficient. Because either the Testing is not enough or Fallkniven payed off someone to get passed thru. I’m trying to see your logic comparing to reality in the world.
Think about that for a second, Your saying a con job.... and the Us military who test special forces knives say “Solid tool sufficient for our Extreme requirements”. I think I’ll take the word of Uncle Sam- with there studies over your Interweb data keyboard. Sorry buddy
 
Lnd Crzr said:
She very much abused the Knife. The DBK fellas did a video and battoned all sorts of items that still didn’t do the damage she did. Pretty sure she did it to get talked about and get her name out there.
Regardless- Fallkniven sells some pretty awesome and robust knives that are used and abused. Occasionally a lemon like many other companies.
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I only posted Survival Lilly as a parody and a joke lol.
 
Lnd Crzr said:
Fallkniven has been tested and passed Us requirements. Are you saying the Us military has been Duped by a slick Con Artist? Are you saying they seriously couldn’t test the Fallkniven knives to the exact strict requirements. Because they did test the Mad Dog /War Dog knife company ATAK that was made for the Us Navy. Perhaps Bobby Garza,Marc Bennaron,Aubrey Moore along with Seal Team Six must have been Duped in believing the Testing was sufficient. Because either the Testing is not enough or Fallkniven payed off someone to get passed thru. I’m trying to see your logic comparing to reality in the world.

Think about that for a second, Your saying a con job.... and the Us military who test special forces knives say “Solid tool sufficient for our Extreme requirements”. I think I’ll take the word of Uncle Sam- with there studies over your Interweb data keyboard. Sorry buddy
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I mostly agree with you. And I like Fallkniven.
But heck Cold Steel, SOG, KA-BAR, Randall, Ontario, Buck, and many other companies aside for Fallkniven have passed US military requirements also. And the Seal Pup by SOG is still used by Seals. It's not really that big of a deal or hard to pass Uncle Sams requirements for a knife.

My knife of choice when I served in Desert Storm? A Buck 110 in stainless. It served me well. And was more useful than my Ontario fixed blade carbon steel sailor combat knife. Plus it was more rust resistant and a better slicer.
 
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HATTORI makes their fixed blades to their specs and then ships them to Fallkniven for finishing!!!!! Moki makes their folders. This is all pretty much common knowledge and easily accessible information.
 
Many Soldiers swear by a Randall, Like their father and grandfathers, not becouse they use the best stealz. The KaBar is a great example- cheap production, More than sufficient for the average requirements of a Grunt needing a knife.
Yet I’m sure that the Special forces and Air crew Survival knives probably required a tad more testing than a Kabar. I may be wrong, I’ll admit that... Yet I’m sure about one thing. Take a Kabar and a Fallkniven A1 and hold them in your hands. Now tell me what one you want to Jab between a rock while advancing underwater ocean currents and having 120 lbs of Explosive devices-Scuba gear, Firearms,ammo and your Life relying on if that blade will break or hold so you don’t get chopped by the Prop of a large ship passing by while your waiting for the time to proceed with your mission.
Or behind enemy lines when your plane crashes and your needs are extreme to survive on your own for extended periods of time relying on what you have strapped to your flight suit.
I don’t think the average everyday test requirements cover those circumstances, Yet my Tax money pays a guy to think about that for .................Ah Merica!!!”
 
Now take a Quality Carbon blade and stick it in the Same Calcium Chloride/ Magnesium Chloride/Salt mixture for a mmonth and see how it looks. Bet the Fallkniven still cuts. That’s my definition of Not failing.
 
Lnd Crzr said:
Many Soldiers swear by a Randall, Like their father and grandfathers, not becouse they use the best stealz. The KaBar is a great example- cheap production, More than sufficient for the average requirements of a Grunt needing a knife.
Yet I’m sure that the Special forces and Air crew Survival knives probably required a tad more testing than a Kabar. I may be wrong, I’ll admit that... Yet I’m sure about one thing. Take a Kabar and a Fallkniven A1 and hold them in your hands. Now tell me what one you want to Jab between a rock while advancing underwater ocean currents and having 120 lbs of Explosive devices-Scuba gear, Firearms, ammo and your Life relying on if that blade will break or hold so you don’t get chopped by the Prop of a large ship passing by while your waiting for the time to proceed with your mission.
Or behind enemy lines when your plane crashes and your needs are extreme to survive on your own for extended periods of time relying on what you have strapped to your flight suit.
I don’t think the average everyday test requirements cover those circumstances, Yet my Tax money pays a guy to think about that for .................Ah Merica!!!”
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Randalls pretty much are collectors and very tough knives in use. They sell like crazy for a reason. Huge collector and resale value.

If it were my choice I would want a Divers knife with a stainless blade and a soft rockwell from 50 to 54. It won't hold a great edge but it will be tough as nails. And easy to sharpen on a hard rock. 420 HC would fit that bill perfectly for a budget knife. And LC200N if I had the cash for a better steel.

Now your plane crashed and you need to cut your way out or what have you. I present the perfect survival knife. The Ontario 499 aircraft knife. 52 - 54 Rockwell and 1095 carbon steel.
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Oh and I’d Baton a good amount first with them ,to insure no “Bending of the edge” or “Rolling of the steel” as apparently happened to this one and only Time it’s been documented from the OP of this thread
 
Lnd Crzr said:
Now take a Quality Carbon blade and stick it in the Same Calcium Chloride/ Magnesium Chloride/Salt mixture for a mmonth and see how it looks. Bet the Fallkniven still cuts. That’s my definition of Not failing.
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Ontario Hunt Plus Camp knife. My favorite fixed beater blade. She begs to be beat silly day in and day out. And I bought 10 of these for the price of one Fallkniven. Gave away 9 for Xmas gifts and kept one for myself. 420HC. Not a super steel but tougher than shoe leather. In my opinion this would make a good diver knife and vastly underappreciated. Throws sparks from a ferro rod, Batons, Makes a good makeshift spear, agile in hand for fighting, balanced for throwing, And a great kitchen knife for meat and veggies.
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jfk1110 said:
HATTORI makes their fixed blades to their specs and then ships them to Fallkniven for finishing!!!!! Moki makes their folders. This is all pretty much common knowledge and easily accessible information.
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I would like to try a MCUSTA some day. I am just a bit spooked of liner locks. Their knives for the money look amazing. I wonder if Moki make MCUSTA?
 
brownshoe said:
Hattori is not identified on the Fallkniven site as the manufacturer. Their folders sure look like Moki.

Not all con jobs leave people unsatisfied. The best cons are slick enough to leave enough satisfied customers to fuel the future con.
If you buy one, keep your receipt, warranty applies only to original owner and then only if bought from an authorized dealer. If you live in the EU that dealer must be in the EU for the 10y warranty to apply.
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It appears that you have "something" against Fallkniven. Don't know exactly what or why. And your statement that "not all con jobs leave people unsatisfied" is perplexing. If people are not dissatisfied, where is the "con"?
I have already agreed with you quite some time ago that they really should put the COO on their knives so as not to appear even remotely "deceptive". And while I don't feel as strongly as you about it, perhaps Fallkniven should clearly state where and by whom their knives are made. Although I have my doubts that every other Knife company is doing that, in which case that would be holding only Fallkniven to a standard while exempting everyone else.
However, I have found that about the only people who do not know that Fallkniven Knives are made in Japan are people who don't know anything about knives, period.

"Cowry X: An extreme powder steel developed by Mr. Ichiro Hattori"
Steel - Fällkniven (fallkniven.se)

"Production has been moved to Seki Japan since Fällkniven replaced ATS34 steel with VG-10 and 3G (SPGS-powder steel) core laminates, in its products. Hattori manufactures all of their fixed blades, and Moki manufactures their folders."
Fällkniven - Wikipedia

I disagree with your view that Fallkniven is pulling a "con job". They are having their knives manufactured by two of the best and respected makers in Seki, both with a long history. That is in fact a major reason why Fallknivens are so expensive.
If they (or any Knife Co) were selling knives without COO, and charging the kind of prices that Fallkniven does, and it turned out that they were actually being manufactured for dirt cheap in places like China or Pakistan, then I would agree that it is a "Con job".
As for warranty issues, I really don't see the relevance to the question of "deception" or "con job".
The reality is that there are an enormous number of Fallknivens in the world owned and used by many people. And most are obviously satisfied. Every Knife brand will have the occasional lemon, be it Fallkniven, Randall or Ontario or whatever. But the customers of these knives are for the most part satisfied which is why they continue to remain in business.

A very simple solution for you is just "don't buy a Fallkniven", if you honestly believe it's a "con".
 
Mr opinionated said:
I would like to try a MCUSTA some day. I am just a bit spooked of liner locks. Their knives for the money look amazing. I wonder if Moki make MCUSTA?
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No. MCUSTA (Machined Custom Knife) is a brand of Marusho, a cutlery company that makes folders/kitchen knives(zanmai)/scissors and saws (Silky). They have nothing to do with Moki, a knife manufacturer.
 
I have two F1 models. I gifted one to my Father. The fit and finish is excellent, and the taper to the edge is a nice feature. The sheath is ok.

The grind is very nice, full convex with a micro bevel.

My Dad used his on a deer and the edge chipped immediately. He has not used it since, and I have not had an opportunity to tune it back up.

I have not used mine on anything hard yet. They are definitely an attractive knife though.
 
Lnd Crzr said:
Oh and I’d Baton a good amount first with them ,to insure no “Bending of the edge” or “Rolling of the steel” as apparently happened to this one and only Time it’s been documented from the OP of this thread
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I would rather use my Estwing camp axe if I had the choice. I usually pack it so I don't see too many situations r
KenHash said:
No. MCUSTA (Machined Custom Knife) is a brand of Marusho, a cutlery company that makes folders/kitchen knives(zanmai)/scissors and saws (Silky). They have nothing to do with Moki, a knife manufacturer.
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Thank you for the lesson and clarification. I do find MCUSTA knives to be very attractive.
 
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