Thief--Kershaw1085--on Bladeforums: What to Do?

[Josh K]

What's funny about what you said, Josh K, about this not being an auction block, is that the way you want to do things is how some auctions work, like eBay. Bidders remain confidential. Some get stuff for a song, then turn around and post it for sale at a higher price. Those types of folks don't even like posting/exchanging feedback because it would make it easier for others to trace an item and see what the seller got it for, etc... .

What I meant by auction site is that you do not have any compulsion to sell to the person who says "I'll take it." first or wishes to pay the most. That's all.

What is wrong with buying a knife cheap and flipping it? Have a Dealer membership? Go for it buddy. What is this, some kind of anti-capitalism soapbox speech? One of the most prominent Busse dealers engages in the behavior you explicitly define, yet people seem to not have an issue buying or selling with him.

 

[Guyon]

Josh K and risen, could you two continue your bromance in a room somewhere and let this thread get back on track?

The key issue is kershaw1085 and his lying/thieving ways. Show a little respect to the OP.

 

[Knife Crazied]

Josh K and risen, could you two continue your bromance in a room somewhere and let this thread get back on track?

The key issue is kershaw1085 and his lying/thieving ways. Show a little respect to the OP.

+1 little harshly put but yep we need to get back on track!

I for one cannot understand why Kershaw1085 is still posting items for thread! That's scary business!

 

[Guyon]

FWIW, ASBOB, you can actually edit the title of this thread to reflect kershaw1085's name. That might be a good thing for anyone who searches by post title (for whatever reason) in the future. :thumbup:

It seems particularly relevant if this lying POS is still posting up items for trade. He needs to be shut down.

 

[risen]

I have a right to keep my deals private....You're deluding yourself. ...Why praise people for doing the right thing?...Maybe because it's not anyone else's business?

And, I have a right not to want to do business with you if you're only willing to do it privately.

Deluding? Nothing deluding about a Community wanting to protect its own.

It's not about praising the person for doing the right thing. It's about letting others know that the person is honorable and can be trusted for future deals, like the feedback system +1. Also, the feedback system here doesn't allow one to give more details about a deal, good or bad.

If a buyer/trader wants to keep things out in the open, it's every bit their right as it is for you to want to keep things hidden. If you and a trader/buyer can't agree on that, no prob, no deal.

 

[risen]

Josh K and risen, could you two continue your bromance in a room somewhere and let this thread get back on track?

The key issue is kershaw1085 and his lying/thieving ways. Show a little respect to the OP.

True, kershaw1085 is the main issue here.

However, the exchange between me and Josh K is related (for me, debating how folks can help prevent from getting screwed in deals by guys like kershaw1085, by dealing out in the open, so we can all pitch in and look out for one another).

 

[risen]

It seems particularly relevant if this lying POS is still posting up items for trade. He needs to be shut down.

+1 :thumbup:

Btw, I love that chicken/rooster. Chinese?

 

[Super X]

ASBOB,
Sorry you got taken, that's a given. Since this thread got a little off track, I have a question I have been really wanting too ask. I belong to several forums, one in particular, is formatted just like this one. To register, you must use your real name and address and phone number which is verified by the owner of the forum. I think the IP address is also tracked. You have to log in to get to the forum. I can think of 5 forums I belong too where this information is a must and you must login to view anything. Does anyone think this would cut down on the scams when your real name, address and phone number are known? Afterall, who is Kershaw 185, I don't have a clue????

 

[LorenzoL]

Maybe this forum got a little too big for that kind of due diligence...
I am really starting to regret renewing my membership for three years, enforcement here is starting to look like the U.N..

 

[Guyon]

Has anyone alerted kershaw1085 to the presence of this thread?
I'd certainly like to see him defend his negligence, shifting excuses, and (so far as we know it at this point) thievery.

 

[dericdesmond]

Has anyone alerted kershaw1085 to the presence of this thread?

I alerted him of the other one when I denied a trade with him. He never posted in that thread so I doubt he will post in this one.

The dude needs the boot, simple as that.

 

[xtonesterx]

ive started to pm this thread to unsuspecting members that he has sent trade offers to.

 

[Guyon]

True, kershaw1085 is the main issue here.

However, the exchange between me and Josh K is related (for me, debating how folks can help prevent from getting screwed in deals by guys like kershaw1085, by dealing out in the open, so we can all pitch in and look out for one another).

Your exchange is appropriate to the Service & Support forum. If you feel so strongly about the topic, you might start a thread there.

As for kershaw1085, I would encourage the OP to file a mail fraud complaint, assuming USPS was the carrier. kershaw1085 has claimed an item was sent when, quite apparently, it was not.

 

[JUST1MOR]

I refuse to let the scumbags that represent 1% of BFC remove the trust I have in the other 99% change the way I conduct business here. I have great faith in the Mods to remain ever vigilant against the few POS's who troll the exchange section and still believe strongly that the true knifeknuts of BFC are honest, full of integrity and whose word can be trusted.
And of course I will cram a 2X4 up the you know where of anyone who scams me!!!

wolfmann, you are a man after my own heart . . .
Be safe.

 

[ASBOB]

A couple of thoughts:

--I changed the title of this thread to include Kershaw1085's name.

--Esav is on this, and has emailed me updates on a regular basis. News will be forthcoming, I can assure you.

--I really don't know if it's legal, either under the law or under Bladeforum rules, to post a member's info. I don't want to get busted, instead of this guy. And some of us play by the rules. Besides, what would anyone do with this info? He's using his username to scam other folks; it seems that that is what's relevant.

--Esav works for the usps, and hasn't mentioned bringing charges; if anyone would know, he would. Also, I don't think this would be effective, given the slight amount, and far more important, the holiday season; their guys are probably beseiged with claims right now.

--Im am not an M.D., nor do I have a doctorate in psych. But this this strikes me as one troubled guy we are dealing with. The Skyline deal really pissed me off because...well, nobody likes getting ripped off, and plus he continued to do it. But in all fairness, it's an inexpensive knife to go to all this risk over. It's not like he was stealing a $10,000 custom art knife. This is really a lot of work and danger for a $30 knife. And after that, all the duplicity; he reminds of the old Jon Lovitz character on Saturday Night Live, Tommy Flanagan (The Liar). Not a stable kind of guy we're dealing with here, judging from his behavior. Just my opinion.

And definitely not an ethical one either.

My thanks for everyone's expressions of support, by the way.

Also, nothing in this incident has changed my views on Bladeforums, or on doing business here. This is a vast list, some kooks--and liars--are bound to appear. But I've also interacted with a host of folks who are incredibly generous and kind. And most forumites are just plain pleasant, including the ones I have traded with, even after this incident.

Thanks again.

 

[GWashington1732]

--I really don't know if it's legal, either under the law or under Bladeforum rules, to post a member's info. I don't want to get busted, instead of this guy. And some of us play by the rules. Besides, what would anyone do with this info? He's using his username to scam other folks; it seems that that is what's relevant.

You can post his name, that would allow others to avoid "doing business," getting scammed, by him elsewhere. I don't think this would be a rules violation in this case. It's been done before without any problems.

 

[risen]

Your exchange is appropriate to the Service & Support forum. If you feel so strongly about the topic, you might start a thread there.

Thanks for the suggestion. But, I still believe it relates here, regardless.

No need for me to go to Service & Support. As I've already posted (twice), "let me make this absolutely clear, I'm not suggesting we change/add anything" (no "changes/additions").

I was only agreeing with what someone else posted about how things are done on another forum. Maybe you should pass along your suggestion to the person who brought it up. However, since I don't believe anyone has suggested we change anything here, your own suggestion to post in Service & Support doesn't even apply, imo.

Besides, it's already been covered here, so to go there would be repetitious & unnecessary, imo. Also, I wouldn't expect much "Service & Support" on the matter, anyway. Different forums, different guidelines.

As for kershaw1085, I would encourage the OP to file a mail fraud complaint, assuming USPS was the carrier. kershaw1085 has claimed an item was sent when, quite apparently, it was not.

Guyon, the USPS? Really? Talk about disrespecting the OP.

Maybe you should show a little more compassion to the OP by not sending him on a fool's errand regarding this deal. It really isn't a very realistic thing to suggest, imo.

Besides, considering the value of the transaction, it wouldn't be worth the time & effort. I think all the post office will do is give the run around, draw things out, months later, nothing. Even worse, they'll add insult to injury in the end when they come back and say, "you should've gotten insurance".

 

[ASBOB]

Patrick Jones.

 

[risen]

A couple of thoughts:...Besides, what would anyone do with this info? He's using his username to scam other folks; it seems that that is what's relevant.

*If* it was allowed, knowing his actual name & address would help when folks got to the shipping part of their deal with him. Members would/could spot the name & address and realize this person used to be kershaw1085, and it wouldn't be as easy for him to scam under a different alias/es, here or on any other related forum (if word got out).

Esav works for the usps, and hasn't mentioned bringing charges; if anyone would know, he would. Also, I don't think this would be effective, given the slight amount, and far more important, the holiday season; their guys are probably beseiged with claims right now.

Agreed. If Esav has the inside track, that's good enough for me. (Btw, Esav, nothing personal about what I said about the USPS in my prior post. )

...It's not like he was stealing a $10,000 custom art knife. This is really a lot of work and danger for a $30 knife. ...

True. But, I think he's working his way up to nicer blades, if allowed to continue. Looks that way due to the level of knife he was wanting to trade for in that thread where he brought up the appendicitis thing.

My thanks for everyone's expressions of support, by the way.

Also, nothing in this incident has changed my views on Bladeforums, or on doing business here.

You're all right. You deserved better.

ASBOB, since it seems the Monochrome I got from kershaw1085 should've been yours, I'd rather you have it. It'd be bad karma for me to keep it.

PM me your contact info and I'll send it off tomorrow. Seriously.

I'll PM you after this to make sure you get my offer. Please accept it. I'd appreciate it if you did.

 

[Cougar Allen]

As for kershaw1085, I would encourage the OP to file a mail fraud complaint, assuming USPS was the carrier. kershaw1085 has claimed an item was sent when, quite apparently, it was not.

Guyon, the USPS? Really? Talk about disrespecting the OP.

Maybe you should show a little more compassion to the OP by not sending him on a fool's errand regarding this deal. It really isn't a very realistic thing to suggest, imo.

Besides, considering the value of the transaction, it wouldn't be worth the time & effort. I think all the post office will do is give the run around, draw things out, months later, nothing. Even worse, they'll add insult to injury in the end when they come back and say, "you should've gotten insurance".

Um ... I'm not sure I understand that post. Are you saying it is disrespectful to a victim of mail fraud to suggest he should report it to the Mail Fraud Division? Are you saying that would be a waste of time? A fool's errand? The Mail Fraud Division would give him the run-around? What planet are you talking about?