This is called "venom"

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Jamboi said:
So then, either Spyderco ripped off Mikkel, or Mikkel ripped off Spyderco, and Kevin ripped them both. Right? Y'all get so testy about people copying other peoples stuff. So many large knife companies copy each other anyway, but no one seems to care as long as they are American companies. Real collectors would never buy the cheap junk anyway. This is the kind of thing kids buy at the local gun and knife show cuz they look cool and are 12 dollars.
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Amen, I find it amazing that people are so quick to say, "Its a copy of this!" "No its a copy of this!" and now that we see that this chinese knife is in fact a copy of a mikkel willumsen who wants to make a bet then no one previously calling foul will say that mikkel ripped off the other makers they originally thought were being ripped off. Honestly, yes the chinese rip people off. But people the world over rip each other off. So why is it that china is the only one who gets the brunt of it? Easy, there is no one anyone is actually pointing a finger at. There is no one that needs or will defend themselves. Its easy to win a game that there is only one player. The knife in question appears now to infact be a mikkel copy. Certainly looked like his work. Again it aint right that they did it, but I still say I give em credit for leaving the original names out of it. This same thing happens in almost every single hobby you can think of. Homage and counterfeit watches, Kit cars, you name it this stuff happens. Again it aint right but I dont think its going away any time soon.
 
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Just google the maker's name in google image , it will come out soon and it seems to be a DealerSite in America . I really want to post the link but I dont want to break the rule of forum .

Ken44 said:
Why do you think most In This Thread are racist elitist ?

You need to stop with the name calling before you get an infraction, and no one here has been racist.




Good find.
edit- Or maybe this is China made??? I don't know much about this maker.
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Like I said before, I don't think that knife is a Willumsen Camp W-23!


This is a Camp W-23:

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I don't know what this knife is, but it looks totally different from a Camp W-23:

Just speculation here... could that "arscultri" site be selling a stonewashed Chinese "Venom" knife claiming it's a genuine Willumsen? :D

Because the edge grinds look... kinda... crappy and uneven!

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4 pages, no clear-cut alleged original rip-off...I dig this knife. The only site with the shot is that arscultri place, googlin' the camp w-23 only returns that persian flaired blade.
 
The venom is of original design by kevin indeed.

The design has been so welcome in china that ...there are counterfeit venoms though I won't show you the pix since someone else has shown earlier in this thread.
 
waterbeef said:
The venom is of original design by kevin indeed.

The design has been so welcome in china that ...there are counterfeit venoms though I won't show you the pix since someone else has shown earlier in this thread.
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That reminds me of the time a major American company posted a warning on their website about knockoffs of their knives.
This after they themselves had a reputation of taking designs from others.
 
Esav Benyamin said:
That reminds me of the time a major American company posted a warning on their website about knockoffs of their knives.
This after they themselves had a reputation of taking designs from others.
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Did that company's name happen to start with a 'C'?

...and end in an 'old Steel'?
 
waterbeef said:
The venom is of original design by kevin indeed.

The design has been so welcome in china that ...there are counterfeit venoms though I won't show you the pix since someone else has shown earlier in this thread.
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That's funny right there...
 
made by Carson Technology Laboratory in china

with the original super steel with the name type-x

there are also RWL34 and S90V versions

length when opend : 236mm
lentgh when closed : 135mm
blade length : 101mm
blade width : 38mm
blade thickness : 5mm
handle thickness :15mm

weight of the limited version : 284g (T21 special titanic alloy handle , Ni-Ti233 clip)
weight of the pro version : 277g (TB6 titanic alloy handle,TC4 (Al6V4Ti) clip)
weight of the standard version : 264g (TC4 titanic alloy handle,TC4 clip)

heat treatment : vacuum quench with both liquid and gas ,then deep freeze treatment
Hardness of the blade ：60-61HRC
blade shape ：drop and tanto

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Very nice! It looks nice and beefy. So is it an auto? Double action? button lock and frame lock?

how much did you pay? I wouldn't mind getting one

Maybe do some cutting test?
 
Hairlesstwinkie said:
Very nice! It looks nice and beefy. So is it an auto? Double action? button lock and frame lock?

how much did you pay? I wouldn't mind getting one

Maybe do some cutting test?
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not automatic but with original innovative design inside, which will be introduced later
now it is lunch time in china :)
 
Looks really friggin' nifty. Too big for me (unless that guy just has really tiny hands), but very nifty nonetheless. I wonder if any of these will make it into the western market...
 
Dorito Monk said:
Looks really friggin' nifty. Too big for me (unless that guy just has really tiny hands), but very nifty nonetheless. I wonder if any of these will make it into the western market...
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I believe the carson lab is with aspiration to explore for oversea markets.

That could be why a chinese lab is given an english name :)
 
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