Time to stop whining about bearings...

Insipid Moniker said:
I strongly disagree. If we're going back to science we have to remember that controlled, double blind studies may be the gold standard, but given that there are many situations where such studies are impossible or unethical, observational studies are frequently used and no less important. This is a single data point, which means it's very far from definitive, but it allows us to examine the other variables and take them into consideration for future observations. If we insist on the kind of testing you're discussing before drawing any conclusions whatsoever, we'll likely be waiting forever as it will probably never happen. Therefore, the best course of action is to inform ourselves with the evidence available and remain open to reassessing our opinions as new evidence becomes available.
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The “double blind studies” you are referencing are for medical procedures performed on people. I think you have no clue what you are talking about and I am wasting my time debating with you.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
a single data point
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This must be some kinda new science , post-literate , post-modern type of virtual meta verse , post-logical methodology ? :rolleyes:

So, if I take some pictures of (both) a folder that didn't break doing basically the same task that broke a fixed blade ; I could claim this as "hard evidence " that folders are generally stronger than fixed ? 🤪
 
I’m a bit confused about the intent of this post. Was this one minute example supposed to convince us all that bearings are vastly superior to washers and we should all just shut up about it now because some rando on Bladeforums showed us some pictures of cleaned, disassembled knives? Or was it posted simply to stir the pot and watch people get really freakin angry about some flat metal donuts and tiny little balls? (which a couple of you really are, btw, it’s absolutely hilarious) Fine, I’ll bite. Emerson knives are overpriced and overrated garbage, of course they aren’t going to outperform a ZT, much less almost anything else. Second of all, there are WAY too many variables involved to conclude that bearings have a tendency to offer superior reliability over washers a majority of the time. Thanks, I’ll go be drunk and confused somewhere else now, y’all have fun.
 
Grayman1984 said:
I’m a bit confused about the intent of this post. Was this one minute example supposed to convince us all that bearings are vastly superior to washers and we should all just shut up about it now because some rando on Bladeforums showed us some pictures of cleaned, disassembled knives? Or was it posted simply to stir the pot and watch people get really freakin angry about some flat metal donuts and tiny little balls? (which a couple of you really are, btw, it’s absolutely hilarious) Fine, I’ll bite. Emerson knives are overpriced and overrated garbage, of course they aren’t going to outperform a ZT, much less almost anything else. Second of all, there are WAY too many variables involved to conclude that bearings have a tendency to offer superior reliability over washers a majority of the time. Thanks, I’ll go be drunk and confused somewhere else now, y’all have fun.
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I think much of this you wrote is nonsense. Either figure it out, or you could have just moved on.
 
DocJD said:
My take on OP = not intended to be taken too seriously .

I'm frankly amazed that anyone would . ;)

Edit : Stay tuned for a few pics that will end ye ole .45 vs 9mm controversy ...finally ! :rolleyes:
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I thought we weren’t being serious at first but it seems we are.



I can save you some trouble with the 9mm vs 45 debate, though…
 
t5brick said:
Not enough evidence to come to any conclusion besides what happened in this situation, happened.

I like both my knives with washers and knives with bearings. If I had to pick something that I knew wouldn’t fail to open…I’ll be using a fixed blade.
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You just hit the nail on the head. People get into these arguments about bearings versus washers, or whether one type of lock is stronger than another type of lock. If someone is doing an activity where the difference between one or the other is really going to matter, chances are that it wasn't a job for a folding knife in the first place.
 
DMG said:
The “double blind studies” you are referencing are for medical procedures performed on people. I think you have no clue what you are talking about and I am wasting my time debating with you.
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I definitely agree that one of us has revealed they don't know what they're talking about.
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Real world experience in which a bearing knife outperformed a knife with washers. You seem inclined to argue with the basic facts presented because of your preconceptions.
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was there a picture of a knife with washers in the beginning of this thread?

I'm not much on doing stuff just to do it, but adding bearings seems like that. There's a huge need in the world of knife making to convince someone they need a knife that is more ____ when they don't wear out the knives that they have or do things that would make them more productive in the first place (cutting sharpening time, understanding geometry better, etc).

That said, if it's just for the sake of buying, then go for it. If I only had things I needed, I wouldn't have much.
 
First off I have knives I like no matter if they are on washers or bearings. I do find though that I prefer my flippers on bearings. The only knife on bearings that ever got so bad, that it lost functionality was a ZT 450 that I thought I had lost, I find it maybe 6 to 9 months later in a bush in my yard. During that time the bearings rusted up, ZT sent me some new bearings and it has been great ever since
 
D-weaver said:
was there a picture of a knife with washers in the beginning of this thread?

I'm not much on doing stuff just to do it, but adding bearings seems like that. There's a huge need in the world of knife making to convince someone they need a knife that is more ____ when they don't wear out the knives that they have or do things that would make them more productive in the first place (cutting sharpening time, understanding geometry better, etc).

That said, if it's just for the sake of buying, then go for it. If I only had things I needed, I wouldn't have much.
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Honestly, I overstated my point and got caught up in arguing for the sake of arguing. Apologies to many in this thread.
 
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