Too big, too strong, too hard...

LOL.... IF it really is a big "Overkill"... I'm going to be struggling to justify the cash....

And limited run knives make me cry because I feel bad using them... Unless I buy two... one to use and one to keep.
 
Just looking at the photos and the previous collab with Hinderer, the overlay, scale texture; a FireTac/ZT collaboration come to mind. If so, I'll be all over this knife.
 
RevDevil said:
Negative. If you want a knife that badly, then as you say, you can preorder it. What exactly is the big deal with a preorder? If it turns out to be pure "hype" using your wording just sell it to someone that wants the knife. It's not like you'd be losing anything. On the other hand, Kershaw probably makes more knives that fit ANY budget than any other company to dayte. They have something for everyone. Why hate on this one? I don't see it.
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Umm, I think you miss read my post. Im not hating on anything. Im simply stating that I and many like me wont pre order a knife just because its the latest release. Many of us wait until a knife has been released and there are reliable reviews available. And many times like in the case of the 0777 the specs change as times go by. I like to know what im getting before I make a decision to buy. I dont see anything wrong with that. Its simply my opinion, its not wrong its just different than yours.

And re read my comment about "this is that knife" that you put in caps. I said it takes a pretty intriguing knife to get me to want to preorder with almost no information. I said that this knife he is showing pictures of is that knife. If your not getting my drift yet Im saying that "I like it, want it and will probably preorder it regardless of specs" And its a fact that many "limited production" knives tend to be more expensive than a standard run knife. Usually they will have special materials that cost more and more to machine resulting in a higher cost. Also due to the limited amount of knives available the company will have to sell it at a higher price to make it profitable. One positive is that you do pay for a certain exclusivity and you will have a knife that not everyone has. But Its still more expensive all the same.

Im simply a person that puts more value in value itself and not exclusivity. You can have a different opinion all you want but that doesnt mean either one of us is wrong. And im not saying anything negative about kershaw. Im not trying to insinuate that their products are all hype and no delivery. I was speaking about limited runs in general not specific to kershaw. The definition of hype in my opinion is to buy or commit to buy based solely on the talk about the knife before its been released. That in itself Is hype. No one has tried a knife that hasnt been released yet so no one has any hard facts or evidence of it. So any speculation to its performance is in fact hype. Its not a bad thing. It simply is what it is.
 
PURPLEDC said:
The definition of hype in my opinion is to buy or commit to buy based solely on the talk about the knife before its been released. That in itself Is hype. No one has tried a knife that hasnt been released yet so no one has any hard facts or evidence of it. So any speculation to its performance is in fact hype. Its not a bad thing. It simply is what it is.
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When you're taking about established, performance enhanced brands, how much risk could there be in their latest high end piece?
 
Thomas W said:
When you're taking about established, performance enhanced brands, how much risk could there be in their latest high end piece?
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Seriously! Stop using words like "high end" and "piece". And stop your avatars eyes from following me. We all want it. Why can't the teasing end? Thomas, I'm afraid I am going to have to fire you for letting us get just a little taste of what's next. Its just too cruel. You can come back with security and gather your things at a later date.

On the plus side, I shall be the new Thomas. Please send me all your pictures, prototypes, corparate e-mails and the like. Also your paychecks. Yeah, send em here. Thank you for your cooperation Thomas.

Oh yeah, can't forget the corparate looking stuff to make it seem official.

Thank you,
Uh, KAI Owner and Chief of Good/Bad News and Family Fun Days Organizer
KAI 1547 Something Kershaw St.
Oregon, maybe?
 
TriviaMonster said:
Seriously! Stop using words like "high end" and "piece". And stop your avatars eyes from following me. We all want it. Why can't the teasing end? Thomas, I'm afraid I am going to have to fire you for letting us get just a little taste of what's next. Its just too cruel. You can come back with security and gather your things at a later date.

On the plus side, I shall be the new Thomas. Please send me all your pictures, prototypes, corparate e-mails and the like. Also your paychecks. Yeah, send em here. Thank you for your cooperation Thomas.

Oh yeah, can't forget the corparate looking stuff to make it seem official.

Thank you,
Uh, KAI Owner and Chief of Good/Bad News and Family Fun Days Organizer
KAI 1547 Something Kershaw St.
Oregon, maybe?
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Funny...:)
 
Thomas W said:
When you're taking about established, performance enhanced brands, how much risk could there be in their latest high end piece?
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Reminds me of the phrase "He who hesitates is lost."

I would not have a Tilt, or a ZT551 if I had waited and bought one off of the street. If you didn't get in on the ZT0777 almost a year ago you might not be getting one when they come out.

Reminds me of the story of the snoozing and the losing.

best

mqqn
 
mqqn said:
Reminds me of the phrase "He who hesitates is lost."

I would not have a Tilt, or a ZT551 if I had waited and bought one off of the street. If you didn't get in on the ZT0777 almost a year ago you might not be getting one when they come out.

Reminds me of the story of the snoozing and the losing.

best

mqqn
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Can't that be responded with "undo haste makes waste?"
 
Judging by the pattern on the scales, it looks (at least to me) like a ZT version of the Kershaw Volt II. But with a titanium framelock and Carbon Fiber overlays...
 
Ore_Ele said:
Can't that be responded with "undo haste makes waste?"
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I suppose, but in the case of the knives I have mentioned, the waste is only in those who hesitate.

Paying $350+ for a Tilt, for instance, or just not having one.

I prefer that those who are prone to wait just do so, that makes it easier for the folks who want to lay hands on the product first.

best

mqqn
 
Not gonna lie... I hate Zero Tolerance.











Specifically, my wallet hates Zero Tolerance. It's always empty now.

I wasn't always into the Kai offerings, but decided to grab a ZT 301 one day, just to try it out. And I thought that was the end of that.

Sometime a few months later, I saw that the ZT 551 was coming out. Decided to grab one of those too. And I thought that was the end of that.

THEN, I saw the ZT 560 was coming out. Decided to grab one of those too, especially since it's based off Hinderer's XM18 design. And I thought that this was my final ZT purchase, ever.



WRONG AGAIN. I always wanted an RJ Martin but could never justify the relatively higher prices that they fetch for... Ugh. I need a new job to support my hobby...
 
Thomas W said:
When you're taking about established, performance enhanced brands, how much risk could there be in their latest high end piece?
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Not really that much risk is involved at all. I will completely agree that with something as special as some of kershaws limited edition pieces that if it were to fall short of someones expectations that it would probably hold its value or as even in the case of the 0560 will actually bring more money than was actually paid. But as irrational as my outlook on limited edition knives may be we have to simply amount it to me getting older and more stubborn on how I like to do my knife collecting.

Just like in other areas of my life Im not the first one to jump in the pool most of the time. And it takes something rather enticing to get me to do so. And like I said this new knife you guys are making has me going against my norm. And for the record I have more faith in KAI USA than I do any other knife company. You guys have never let me down. Even times when I had an issue with a product you guys took care of it. Unlike some other companies who claim perfection and therefore feel they have little need for an actual warranty on their products. Oddly enough they like to steal intellectual property as well, but thats another thread all together. Please understand I meant no harm in my statements. You asked what Is wrong with limited production items and I stated my views on it to give you a better understanding of that argument. My words were taken way out of context and in some cases was flat out NOT what I even said.

Bottom line Is im not a true impulse buyer. In a sense its on impulse as being a knife collector you make a lot of excuses as to why you just "Need" that new knife. But I like to sit and stew on a decision for a new knife. Especially if its rather expensive. And sometimes the limited amount of knives available doesnt leave me with much time to do that.
 
bad_juju said:
I can't wait till blade to say WE were right and guessed Sr. RJ Martin!
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Don't forget me!

I made the first guess way back on 5-8 in another thread:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...-has-ever-worked-with?p=10837879#post10837879

and also in this thread on page 4:

Scurvy092 said:
Well considering my guess of a RJ Martin collab hasn't been shot down yet, I'm guessing the 4.25 inch bladed knife is going to be the RJ Devastator:

devastator.jpg
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