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I bought an AG Russell Acies from TyFrameLock (Tyler _____ , don’t know his last name). He had Reese Weiland (a very good guy to work with) make an S90V blade for the Acies. Once Tyler received the knife back from Reese, he decided to sell it (see thread). He indicated it was because he decided he liked smaller folders.
When I asked about the lockup before the sale, Tyler indicated “I would say that it is equal to the tension of a sebenza but not as firm as an umnumzaan.”
When received, the knife had two problems:
1) The thumb stud was not centered laterally (too little exposed for right hander, too much thumb stud exposed on other side), was asymmetrical, and was not oriented so the flat side of the angled thumb stud was facing a right-handers thumb orthogonally when opening. Reese confirmed the thumbstud is press-fit, and that it would not be simple for the typical knife owner to re-center without a press. I own a stock Acies, so know the thumb stud on this customized knife was not oriented as per a stock knife, and was not oriented properly. This is something the seller should have easily noticed, and should have sent back to Reese to remedy. As-is, the current configuration of the thumb stud doesn’t allow the user’s thumb to hit a flat thumb stud ramp, it hits the peak of the stud, which is sharp. It simply isn’t right per a stock knife.
2) The lockup wasn't right. Unclear if this is from a flat spot on stop pin from flicking it open, or something that Reese needs to adjust. TyFrameLock specified to Reese that he wanted an "early lockup", which required Reese to make a slightly oversized (larger diameter) stop pin. The knife locked up a bit early (60% of frame lock bar behind the tang), but could be pressed over to be fully behind tang with some thumb pressure, but this locked the frame-lock so tightly that you couldn't unlock with one hand. Just simply not set up right.
These are all details, but they are issues that a conscientious and reputable seller would not pass on to a buyer.
I told TyFrameLock, within a day or two of receipt, that he should not consider this a "done deal" until I had a chance to talk to Reese Weiland about the fixes and costs. The PROBLEM was TyFrameLock denied that there could possibly be any problem with the thumbstud (full-on denial, it was, to paraphrase, just not possible that there could be a problem, since he didn't notice it, therefore it couldn't possibly be...), and kind of told me to FO and that the lockup was what it was. He refused the possibility of refunding my money… and in fact, eventually he said that “the funds had already been re-allocated” to some other purpose, and after a bunch of back-and-forth emails, he offered a $30 discount, on a $430 knife, for me to just go away. Well, this isn't the sort of honorable behavior I expect from any seller, much less a seller of a more than $100 knife on BF. Every indication in his communication told me that I’d be a fool to send the knife back to the guy and “hope” for a refund of the purchase price. Not even close. He suggested I just turn around and sell it on BF since there were numerous bites on BF after I offered to buy, and that I could "even make a few bucks" by re-selling. So he passed the problems to me and suggested that I now become the seller of ill repute. Truly unethical behavior for a seller.
Now, the reason I post this is just as a Caveat Emptor for future buyers. I only post this after confirming what a reasonable and cool guy Reese Weiland is to talk to and deal with. He was m-ore than happy to suggest that I send the knife to him and we'd make it right, no cost. That's super. Kudos to Reese for being a totally reasonable guy to work with. Unlike TyFrameLock.
I therefore punt on TyFrameLock, and suggest that you consider this post before you do a deal with him. I'll handle the knife fixes with Reese myself, end up with a suitable usin’ knife, and a good relationship with a maker (who I just now bought ANOTHER knife from)... and TyFrameLock can ... uh ... enjoy his status as a dishonorable seller in my book. Food for your thought. You are only as good as your last deal. Tyler clearly punted, and so I’ll punt on Tyler.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/852128-s90v-Acies-Sold!?p=9646845#post9646845
I bought an AG Russell Acies from TyFrameLock (Tyler _____ , don’t know his last name). He had Reese Weiland (a very good guy to work with) make an S90V blade for the Acies. Once Tyler received the knife back from Reese, he decided to sell it (see thread). He indicated it was because he decided he liked smaller folders.
When I asked about the lockup before the sale, Tyler indicated “I would say that it is equal to the tension of a sebenza but not as firm as an umnumzaan.”
When received, the knife had two problems:
1) The thumb stud was not centered laterally (too little exposed for right hander, too much thumb stud exposed on other side), was asymmetrical, and was not oriented so the flat side of the angled thumb stud was facing a right-handers thumb orthogonally when opening. Reese confirmed the thumbstud is press-fit, and that it would not be simple for the typical knife owner to re-center without a press. I own a stock Acies, so know the thumb stud on this customized knife was not oriented as per a stock knife, and was not oriented properly. This is something the seller should have easily noticed, and should have sent back to Reese to remedy. As-is, the current configuration of the thumb stud doesn’t allow the user’s thumb to hit a flat thumb stud ramp, it hits the peak of the stud, which is sharp. It simply isn’t right per a stock knife.
2) The lockup wasn't right. Unclear if this is from a flat spot on stop pin from flicking it open, or something that Reese needs to adjust. TyFrameLock specified to Reese that he wanted an "early lockup", which required Reese to make a slightly oversized (larger diameter) stop pin. The knife locked up a bit early (60% of frame lock bar behind the tang), but could be pressed over to be fully behind tang with some thumb pressure, but this locked the frame-lock so tightly that you couldn't unlock with one hand. Just simply not set up right.
These are all details, but they are issues that a conscientious and reputable seller would not pass on to a buyer.
I told TyFrameLock, within a day or two of receipt, that he should not consider this a "done deal" until I had a chance to talk to Reese Weiland about the fixes and costs. The PROBLEM was TyFrameLock denied that there could possibly be any problem with the thumbstud (full-on denial, it was, to paraphrase, just not possible that there could be a problem, since he didn't notice it, therefore it couldn't possibly be...), and kind of told me to FO and that the lockup was what it was. He refused the possibility of refunding my money… and in fact, eventually he said that “the funds had already been re-allocated” to some other purpose, and after a bunch of back-and-forth emails, he offered a $30 discount, on a $430 knife, for me to just go away. Well, this isn't the sort of honorable behavior I expect from any seller, much less a seller of a more than $100 knife on BF. Every indication in his communication told me that I’d be a fool to send the knife back to the guy and “hope” for a refund of the purchase price. Not even close. He suggested I just turn around and sell it on BF since there were numerous bites on BF after I offered to buy, and that I could "even make a few bucks" by re-selling. So he passed the problems to me and suggested that I now become the seller of ill repute. Truly unethical behavior for a seller.
Now, the reason I post this is just as a Caveat Emptor for future buyers. I only post this after confirming what a reasonable and cool guy Reese Weiland is to talk to and deal with. He was m-ore than happy to suggest that I send the knife to him and we'd make it right, no cost. That's super. Kudos to Reese for being a totally reasonable guy to work with. Unlike TyFrameLock.
I therefore punt on TyFrameLock, and suggest that you consider this post before you do a deal with him. I'll handle the knife fixes with Reese myself, end up with a suitable usin’ knife, and a good relationship with a maker (who I just now bought ANOTHER knife from)... and TyFrameLock can ... uh ... enjoy his status as a dishonorable seller in my book. Food for your thought. You are only as good as your last deal. Tyler clearly punted, and so I’ll punt on Tyler.
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