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Http://www.uberknives.com has disappeared :thumbdn:
Http://www.uberknives.com has disappeared :thumbdn:
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UBERKNIVES aka UBERTACS aka Dan Lee aka Edward Keating do not trust!
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Oh great!! I am working with them on a Sniper Bladeworks knife I received that has some pretty uneven grinds and the tip is almost touching one of the sides. I was debating about it and finally decided to return the knife. I emailed them the weekend before last and Edward Keating responded saying he would send me a prepaid envelope. A week passes, I don't get anything, I email again. He apologized and said he would get one out asap. I got a second email this morning apologizing again and thanking me for my patience. I responded and said I could just give it to him at Blade if he goes. Well, that message bounced back due to the domain losing its registration information and yes, that includes the website as well.
At least I got 20% off the knife and I am going to show it to Sniper Bladeworks and maybe see if they could correct it. And on an even better note, had I sent it back, I would probably not have been refunded. This still sucks.
At least I got 20% off the knife and I am going to show it to Sniper Bladeworks and maybe see if they could correct it. And on an even better note, had I sent it back, I would probably not have been refunded. This still sucks.
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They shut their website down - they're dead in the water. I'm still waiting for my paypal claim to be handled. They got me for $624.
When you look back on everything now, & see how idiotic that scumbag was acting in that thread (throwing around those discounts)...he knew all along, what he was planning to do...
This was so blatantly, pre-meditated. Maybe both of these guys are in on this?
This was so blatantly, pre-meditated. Maybe both of these guys are in on this?
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I'm really sorry, that so many of our member's have been cheated by, Uberknives. I hope that you're able to do an excellent job of networking at Blade, & make certain that these lying, thieving crooks, are done dealing in the knife business.
Best of luck!
BTW- Are these the 2 guys (Edward Keating & Dan Lee), in these Facebook pictures?
https://www.facebook.com/uberknives/photos_stream
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I opened a dispute with paypal last night explaining the whole situation.
Check out what I got this morning:
"Hey man sent over a pre-paid return label. Thank you very much!"
And the email was not signed, but I did get a separate email with the return label. What are the chances of me getting a refund after I send the knife back?........ Yeah, I agree. I am going to wait to hear back from Paypal.
I pasted this Bladeforums link into my dispute in which I said that I would send the knife back after my money was refunded.
UPDATE: I sent an email stating my concerns about returning the knife now as I figured, maybe, the site is down but their mail is back up. Nope, they can send email, but cannot receive. This is a rare occurrence as most mail servers now days won't allow a relay of this type when mail is not being received. So, if anyone falls into the same category as myself, DO NOT SEND YOUR KNIFE BACK!! Open a dispute to protect yourself.
Check out what I got this morning:
"Hey man sent over a pre-paid return label. Thank you very much!"
And the email was not signed, but I did get a separate email with the return label. What are the chances of me getting a refund after I send the knife back?........ Yeah, I agree. I am going to wait to hear back from Paypal.
I pasted this Bladeforums link into my dispute in which I said that I would send the knife back after my money was refunded.
UPDATE: I sent an email stating my concerns about returning the knife now as I figured, maybe, the site is down but their mail is back up. Nope, they can send email, but cannot receive. This is a rare occurrence as most mail servers now days won't allow a relay of this type when mail is not being received. So, if anyone falls into the same category as myself, DO NOT SEND YOUR KNIFE BACK!! Open a dispute to protect yourself.
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Do whatever paypal says. This will most likely include you sending the knife back before you get a refund. Don't know if I would use their prepaid shipping. Again, if paypal is involved, you should be fine to do this. Just insure it and get a signature confirmation. Once the package is signed for and in this douche bags hands nothing else matters to paypal. They should refund you. Again, do what paypal says and you should be fine.
I am glad their account is banned! That said, they are still on the paying dealers list.
Nope. Completely false. If you use paypal goods they will refund your money and then go after the seller for the funds. Please read paypal's user agreement before making such inaccurate statements: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full
Personal experience has proven me correct. I filed a dispute with Paypal and won and they told me they could not refund my money because there were no funds available in his account. Also feel free to point out in the policy exactly where it states this " If you use paypal goods they will refund your money and then go after the seller for the funds".
I can't believe I defended these thieves in the past. I seriously never had a problem at all, very good prices, quick shipping, etc. Had this thread happened a few days later, I would have sent my knife back and have nothing to show for it now.
Did you not read any of the agreement? Sorry you messed up and somehow got screwed but paypal is very clear on this.
Let's start with the seller:
"3.3 Liability for Invalidated Payments. When you receive a payment, you are liable to PayPal for the full amount of the payment sent to you plus any Fees if the payment is later invalidated for any reason. This means that, in addition to any other liability, you will be responsible for the amount of the payment sent by the sender, plus the applicable Fees listed in Exhibit A (Fees) of this Agreement if you lose a Claim or a Chargeback, or if there is a Reversal of the payment.
You agree to allow PayPal to recover any amounts due to PayPal by debiting your balance. If there are insufficient funds in your balance to cover your liability, you must reimburse PayPal through other means. If a sender of a payment files a Chargeback, the credit card issuer, not PayPal, will determine who wins the Chargeback."
This means the seller agrees to be responsible to paypal for the funds received from the buyer, even if there is a refund or lost claim. Got that?
Now, let's go to the buyer protection:
"13.4 Coverage Amount. If you are eligible for PayPal Purchase Protection and PayPal finds in your favor on your Claim, PayPal will reimburse you for the full purchase price of the item and original shipping costs with no cap on coverage.
PayPal will not reimburse you for the return shipping costs that you incur to return a Significantly Not As Described item to the Seller or other party specified by PayPal. If the Seller presents evidence that they delivered the goods to your address, PayPal may find in favor of the Seller for an Item Not Received claim even if you did not receive the goods."
See that part in red? That right there means paypal, not the seller, will reimburse you under their buyer protection policy. What paypal wants to do with the faulty buyer after that? Who cares! You are covered. Simple really.
Now, I don't know the specifics of you situation and nor do I want to, but I suspect it is not so cut and dry.
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I received a call from Hyojoo Edward Keating about an hour ago. He apologized for the problems, but reiterated the internal problems between Dan Lee and himself.
He said their site will be down for the foreseeable future and his immediate plans are to liquidate his inventory on eBay.
He refunded the money owed to me through Paypal and I have dropped my claim. I know there are others with problems to resolve and I wished him/them luck.
Anyone with issues may PM me for contact info.
He said their site will be down for the foreseeable future and his immediate plans are to liquidate his inventory on eBay.
He refunded the money owed to me through Paypal and I have dropped my claim. I know there are others with problems to resolve and I wished him/them luck.
Anyone with issues may PM me for contact info.
Glade you are at least being made whole. Also this from the trolls of June should make everyone happy: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ne-the-same-old-tune!?p=14840369#post14840369
Let me get this straight. Your understanding of paypal's buyer protection policy is that after a claim has been won by a buyer, the buyer will only be refunded if the seller has the money in their account to refund? And you still hold to that understanding after reading the policy? Sorry bud but that is absolutely ridiculous. That would make it super easy for every scammer to use paypal to scam people. That would make paypal utterly useless for buyers. That would make uberknives be able to rip all these people in this thread off.
I think your understanding of how paypal works is not based in reality.
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