Underdogizhere Got Me Good!

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Originally posted by Lewis
If everybody is suddenly having problems with you then maybe you should look at yourself.

Badda bing. Right on target Lewis. I've learned to live by this axiom with the results being much greater peace of mind and better relationships.
 
This whole situation is very unfortunate. It is my opinion that if Jerry outright and purposely misrepresented the condition of the knife in order to cheat Timmer, then that is wrong. Plain and simple. But only Jerry knows this. I may have missed something in the 40 posts, but it seems that Jerry did offer to try and make the deal right, but has not been given an oppurtunity to do so.Instead he was given an "ugly" nomination in GB&U with no chance to salvage his reputation. This is the part that bothers me. What is it that he can do to make things right?

I do not know, nor have I ever dealt with either person in this dispute. I just feel that a post on this forum that could cause irreparable damage to a person's reputation should be a last resort when all other attempts to resolve a problem have been exhausted.

I feel that it should have never reached this point. I think that if somebody were to buy a knife from another person and received it in a condition that was unacceptable to this person, then the he or she should ask the seller for a refund or repair. If the seller outright refuses, then a post to GB&U as well as legal action should be considered. It just seems that this criteria was not met here.


Just my $.02 worth. Take it as you will. If I've stuck my nose where it does not belong I apologize.(I also do not know the content of Jerry's edited posts) I just hope that Jerry and Timmer can settle this issue in a civilized manner.

Best regards,
Joe M.
 
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Never did see that sucker again.
 
Gotta make sure you read the old "Good, bad, ugly" posts before you deal here.

Underdogizhere did the same thing to me -- misrepresented the knife, then refused to take it back. No inspection period.

Lesson folks -- INSIST on the inspection period. We'd all like to assume it's a "given", but it's not.

Mine worked out OK in the end, but I'd rather have not had to go through it in the first place.

Mike
 
folks, its real simple . you get the knives open the package , and they are ok or they are not ok . i would not want somebody opening and closing my auto for 3 days, seeing something come up for sale, and changing their mind . not cool . as for JERRY ROBERTS, AKA UNDERDOGISHERE - i did probably 10deals with jerry give or take a couple .always honorable . we did some haggling on price , but he always did what he said he would and the merch was as represented .those are my dealings with him .and yes , i would deal with him again .no hesitation he always was a man of his word in our dealings :) JAXURMAN
 
Underdog, you talked Duncan knives up to anyone that would listen.
On the subject of trades,you and I did one and the only way I found out you had received the knife,was you posting something about the knife on BF.
 
Look guys, this whole thread is not about trying to get Jerry to make it right. After all, if he did lie, than it's already too late to make it right. It's easier to ship the knife back to Mr. Vallotten than it is to ship it back to Jerry who will then ship it back to Mr. Vallotten. Either way, it's a pain in the butt - there's no way around it, and a lie is still a lie.

The point of this thread is to establish whether or not Jerry Roberts, aka underdogizhere, is a liar.

Timmer said he received a damaged knife - a knife that had been messed around with and, among other things, had had it's thumb stud sloppily removed and reattached for left hand use. Jerry, a left-hander, denies having done this.
originally posted by underdogizhere:
i shipped the knife in the EXACT condition EXACTLY as i got it from [darkman]
(There were other quotes as well, but underdogizhere seems to have this annoying habit of deleting his posts and retracting his own statements.)

So, is Timmer a liar or is Jerry a liar?

Once this question has been sufficiently addressed, this thread will have served its purpose.
 
Originally posted by darkman
ALL IT TAKES IS FOR YOU TO SAY.."WHEN I CHANGED THE SCREW OVER I MIGHT HAVE BEEN A BIT ROUGH WITH IT..AND DIDNT KNOW IT UPSET IT...
ILL OFFER TO HELP WITH THE REPAIR.." THATS ALL IT TAKES TO END THIS
JERRYDOG...WE'D ALL BE OK WITH THAT AND YOU DONT HAVE TO LEAVE AND
WE WONT THINK BAD OF YOU...

But what about the fact that Jerry has repeatedly denied that he modified the knife?


Jerry, just answer the following: Did you or did you not modify the knife?
 
..im gettin donuts on my
keyboard..wheres that beagle..here boy! get them crumbs...later..
darkman
 
originally posted by underdogizhere:
the mechanical condition of the knife had NOTHING to do with changing the thumb stud

So you did change the thumbstud.

However, you said earlier that you didn't. Again, I present to you the following quote:
originally posted by underdogizhere:
i shipped the knife in the EXACT condition EXACTLY as i got it from [darkman]

Jerry, you lied.

We don't tolerate liars here. I don't know if there's anything you can do to salvage your reputation at this point. I don't like saying this, but your actions speak for themselves.

originally posted by underdogizhere:
NOT A COMMUNITY THAT I WISH TO REMAIN!

You're not a straight shooter, Jerry, and as far as I'm concerned, you are no longer welcome in this community.
 
now youve made a great point! IN MY FAVORITE LETTER SIZE TOO!
OK... WE HAVE IT IN CLEAR..BIGGIE SIZE...LETTERING...
THE UNDERDOGZ IS OFFERING TO HELP PAY ANY REASONABLE CHARGE
TO MAKE TIMMERS KNIFE WHACKABLE AGIAN ! i know you said it
in passing before.. but jerry it needed to be said agian bro...
thats what im trying to tell ya... you needed to make the
one time..biggie sized impression that you were going to make an
effort to help timmer resolve this! yahoo! YOU DID IT!!!
NOW..I KNOW TIMMERS A LITTLE BENT OVER THIS...give him a little
bit to calm down and think about it...if he decides to let you
help by sending him reimbursement for the bill..then both of you
are good to go!!! if he doesnt..well..youve made the offer..and
he will do whatever he feels is right for him... this looks like
weve REACHED DE'TAUNT FOLKS!!!! WHEW! I NEED ANOTHER DONGUT...
HEY..BEAGLE..DROP THAT BOX OF DONUGHTS...*$*!!!$$#_)_()&%! BEAGLES~!


thanks dog...you did the right thing! be it a little late..but
you did...kent..your right..but the end result of that would be
what just happened,even though it took a crowbar.
 
The point of this thread is to establish whether or not Jerry Roberts, aka underdogizhere, is a liar.

Is that the point of this thread? I thought the point was for underdogizhere to display his character ... and for his friends to try to help him salvage his reputation ... and for him to respond to that by displaying more of his character ...
 
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