Uninformed cocky users of bad knives

ol' smoke said:
I am a trapper(fox bobcat coon). My best skinner is a Russel- GreenRiver paring knife. Probably $7.95 IIRC. I put Axis scales on it and would not trade\sell it. You use other knives around the skull etc., but the skinner is sharp and stays sharp. I also rehandle the "butcher knives" (Ontario, Ecko, Dexter Old Hickory). I don"t like to pay more than $1.00 for my knife stock. Speaking of cutting ability, they were made to be used and sharpened. All carbon steel. The correct way to clean is wipe on on yer jeans. Just my two cents. Adios!
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sacrasm on
if you had a much more expensive knife that you can open car trunks with a flick of the wrist like they did on NCIS , your skinning would be of a higher standard and be easier
AND you can impress your buddies at the mall because you have a knife that has such an expensive tag , pretty paint job on the blade etc
sarcasm off

I have no use for pocket jewelry . I got a wife for doing the looking pretty business .
 
It's funny how every interest is like this: at first you hear that someone likes knives and you think "Cool", we have something in common. Then you find out they like XYZ brand and you think "what an idiot". I see this same attitude with bicycles, cars, trucks, motorcycles, etc. Recently, I was with a friend on a service call at a marina in Ft. Lauderdale where multimillion dollar yachts are serviced and customized. The lady who was showing us around smugly pointed at a certain brand yacht and told us how those are "off the rack, they all look the same". Keep in mind if I saved every penny I ever earned I still couldn't buy this particular boat, but this lady is dissing it because it's not exclusive enough. The only people who "really get it" are the ones with opinions just like ours.
 
Everyone needs to decide for themselves what they want, what they like, and what they need. But don't expect me to be impressed with tales of 2 dollar knives.
 
On the same token don't expect me to believe a $2000 knife is 100 X better than a $20 knife.
 
hmmm
this knife cost me $3 IIRC to make ( yeah , a little more than the $2 bracket that dont impress ya )

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This knife has been used to cut open a car hood ( with help from a bleeding great shifter spanner as baton ) and cut battery cables to save a guys life who was in the wreck . in the years since I first posted this and now , it has done the same thing at least another 4x .
I know its not really a big deal its just a beater I made in my backyard .It has no blade coating to be worried about damaging , it has no problem with loss of resale value , and it actually gets used . Owned now by a towie who is regularly at the accident scene ahead of police and ambulance , and used with reckless abandon doing unknifelike duty .

I would love to be impressed by more than recycled sales blurb and a price tag that is more than I paid for my car tho .
 
I carry well made folders. I know they are. So, If someone thinks their S&W is better than my Spyderco, let them believe that. I really don't care, and it won't hurt me in any way. If they are happy with it, so be it.
 
Myal said:
hmmm
this knife cost me $3 IIRC to make ( yeah , a little more than the $2 bracket that dont impress ya )

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This knife has been used to cut open a car hood ( with help from a bleeding great shifter spanner as baton ) and cut battery cables to save a guys life who was in the wreck . in the years since I first posted this and now , it has done the same thing at least another 4x .
I know its not really a big deal its just a beater I made in my backyard .It has no blade coating to be worried about damaging , it has no problem with loss of resale value , and it actually gets used . Owned now by a towie who is regularly at the accident scene ahead of police and ambulance , and used with reckless abandon doing unknifelike duty .

I would love to be impressed by more than recycled sales blurb and a price tag that is more than I paid for my car tho .[/QUOTE



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a whole 1/8 inch thick pry bar , yeah .... one that shaves , slices cheese , slices steel ...

I did not expect you to be able to show a hi end knife that can come close tho :)
 
Hey i think this is my second post here but when im looking through the forums i see lots of stories of uninformed knife users insulting peoples crk's striders etc and saying how much better there gerbers,s&w etc are. These types of posts never fail to crack me up so if you have some stories please post them here.
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I think you have this backwards. i see alot of Informed knife users insulting peoples Gerbers, s&w etc. and then showing off with there pristine CRK, striders and busse's etc. I know and understand the ins and outs of knife steel etc. but i also know that the 20 dollar special is far more than enough knife for 99% of knifecraft.

furthermore a cheap knife in the hand is better than two high end knives in the safe! I find that i use my cheapies more often than the premos, because i fear damaging the premos. even if the premo knife has steel X times greater than the cheap ones. it always comes down to what i paid and how easy it would be to replace the knife if i do manage to break it.

haters gunna hate.

Also, Myal thats a sweet looking knife.
 
This guy the other night told me he had just won a lockback and was bragging about how it had 440a surgical stainless steel, when i tried to tell him that was crap he was offended. so i just told him, "nevermind gratz"
 
Myal said:
hmmm
this knife cost me $3 IIRC to make ( yeah , a little more than the $2 bracket that dont impress ya )

Karlsbaby.jpg


This knife has been used to cut open a car hood ( with help from a bleeding great shifter spanner as baton ) and cut battery cables to save a guys life who was in the wreck . in the years since I first posted this and now , it has done the same thing at least another 4x .
I know its not really a big deal its just a beater I made in my backyard .It has no blade coating to be worried about damaging , it has no problem with loss of resale value , and it actually gets used . Owned now by a towie who is regularly at the accident scene ahead of police and ambulance , and used with reckless abandon doing unknifelike duty .

I would love to be impressed by more than recycled sales blurb and a price tag that is more than I paid for my car tho .
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I can do that with 1 dollar flat head screwdriver from Rona. You can also put a string loop or plastic zip for safety...
Use saved money to buy some crap cutters to cut cables - you for sure will get better performance from these specialised tools - ever from the worst of the worst.
The knife itself might be OK - I do not trying to badmouth it. Just the examples of the quality tests are so off - I do not like them at all, that is why I decided to comment. Nothing personal.
 
Myal, looks like you could cut open a can of beans with that blade. Who needs a can opener? :)
 
The other day, I was at an undeveloped "boat ramp" pulling my wave runner out of the water on a trailer. The GMC Yukon's tires spun out a little in the sand until I got it going and an onlooker said: "A Chevy would've done it." It's a running joke in our house now and reminds me of some of these knife comparisons.
 
Poez said:
I can do that with 1 dollar flat head screwdriver from Rona. You can also put a string loop or plastic zip for safety...
Use saved money to buy some crap cutters to cut cables - you for sure will get better performance from these specialised tools - ever from the worst of the worst.
The knife itself might be OK - I do not trying to badmouth it. Just the examples of the quality tests are so off - I do not like them at all, that is why I decided to comment. Nothing personal.
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I do not doubt your words . I designed and made the knife I did , after working with my bro ( the towie driver who got the knife ) . At times , one tool that will do what it is meant to can get thru a panel that is crushed and has others folded over it ... the same tool will cut copper cable like butter pretty much as well . It has , in the users opinion , saved lives , so Im not going to argue too much about it not being the right tool for the job .

I made it to cut panels , seat belts , pizza ... in short indestructible under normal and somewhat abnormal abuse I figured since it was made to cut car panels , it was fair enough to test it on one ... after all the edge geometry had to be such that it will handle sheet steel and still easily slice cheese .

I figured cheese test wasnt exciting but there is something so wrong feeling about cutting steel with a knife it was worth a picture .

I fail to see why as a quality test , testing this knife against car panels is "off" ... its being tested doing what its built to do ...

I am not trying to pain a glorious picture of a super knife , it is a $3 knife , made by a guy in his back yard using an angle grinder , I DO want to see the wondrous things a hi end knife can do tho that make such cheap knives unimpressive , that is all .
 
22-rimfire said:
Myal, looks like you could cut open a can of beans with that blade. Who needs a can opener? :)
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Its opened toyotas :) beans are nothing for it

I made this for kicks tho earlier :
cutting tin can
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and the nasty effect it didnt have on the blade

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its all about where the money spent goes .. into the actual steel used , or into pretty handle and fancy brand names stamped on it

I know that as a quality test , this is also probably "off" too but this knife was made so it could be used as a can opener , and still keep an edge that was good enough for food prep , I test knives I make doing the things they are made to do tho . I do not make knives for slicing rope endlessly , because I dont hang with people who do that , I do hang with people who seriously use their knives , and Ill make them knives they can seriously use .
 
nightman said:
So you glued two pieces of wood to a slab of steel and made a pry bar. I thought we were talking about knives here.
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Try not to confuse brand names and price tags with knives. Oh wait, that's what this thread is about.
 
I like to buy quality knives (which are not necessarily expensive). I will not buy myself knives that I won't use, so boutique knives are out, as well as gas station specials.

My Sister in law's husband keeps toting around this ghastly SAK knockoff, even though he has better knives ( which I have given him). Of course, he used it to make a working bow drill, so who am I to judge . . .
 
I like forged knives made by hammers and fire molded like clay into any shape the knife maker wants personally...I wish more knife makers made forged folders but that would be hard to do...I am starting to EDC smaller forged fixed blades and have some on order. :) As for making fun of someone else's shit...it depends on what someone else uses that knife for. If they like it for it's intended use it's a good knife for them...for me I am a steel snob. The stock removal method is slowly becoming a lost love being replaced by a sexy distal taper...Kydex is becoming hand stitched leather lately as well as natural materials replacing g-10. It does not make me good or bad...it makes me me. What i like and can afford is different than what you like and can afford. I have deeper pockets than some but not all. My mother told me her serrated bred knife was better than a dull and unsharpened shun knife she abused because it was serrated! LOL
 
I got started on this whole knife thing about a year ago, when I picked up a $5 folding knife in a bargain bin. It had a liner lock, which was entirely a new thing to me. I hadn't touched a folding knife in decades and knew only slipjoints. This new technology was a wonderment! And the 440 steel blade was sharp! But then I looked around and saw that I could get S&W knives that ALSO had liner locks! A brand name!

Then...well, I'm sure you can guess where the story goes from there. I'm not up to Sebenzas, much less custom knives. But, truth be told, in the year since, no-name knife #1 and the 2 S&Ws would have suited my knife needs just fine (I'm a self-confessed "light user"). So anybody whose actual knife needs are met by a "bad" knife have made the correct economic choice: a least-cost option that works for them. And I will continue to pursue higher-cost options that do hardly any work at all, but which I appreciate.
 
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