Uninformed cocky users of bad knives

Personally I'm more impressed with this than a guy that spent $400.00 on a knife just because he could! I'm more impressed that this guy has the ability to make a knife with his own hands that from the proof of this pic can do just as good as the $400.00 knife. And IMO this knife looks as nice as a lot of knives out there.
Myal said:
hmmm
this knife cost me $3 IIRC to make ( yeah , a little more than the $2 bracket that dont impress ya )

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This knife has been used to cut open a car hood ( with help from a bleeding great shifter spanner as baton ) and cut battery cables to save a guys life who was in the wreck . in the years since I first posted this and now , it has done the same thing at least another 4x .
I know its not really a big deal its just a beater I made in my backyard .It has no blade coating to be worried about damaging , it has no problem with loss of resale value , and it actually gets used . Owned now by a towie who is regularly at the accident scene ahead of police and ambulance , and used with reckless abandon doing unknifelike duty .

I would love to be impressed by more than recycled sales blurb and a price tag that is more than I paid for my car tho .
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I don't care what is said about anyone else's knives but PLEASE don't badmouth my Dark Ops Vindicator.:D
 
Tentmaker said:
Or into pins to secure the handle, instead of glue...
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not a regular glue , I use the stuff that holds windshields into cars .. its one of the few glues I know that will not fail under regular knife abuse .
I have not got drills that will drill into let alone thru that steel I use .

fwiw , lets see what you have done tho , I am genuinely curious as to what work and experience you have to make such a call on my gear
 
I just laugh to myself about people who don't know better. If they assert to me that their crap knife is actually worth something, I'll point them in the direction of a quality product. It's essentially the same as people who know a lot about cars, guns, etc.
 
If there is one thing about the knife collecting hobby that really bothers me, it's this thread, or the mentality behind it.

Dad's worked construction for 40+ years at this point. The knives? A Case Sodbuster, a Schrade 125OT, and for the last 20 or so years, a small Craftsman lockback from Schrade. He abuses knives as badly as any of us, yet those three worked. I have the Sodbuster- it's worn but still snappy with no play. The 125OT got stolen. The tiny lockback was lost after about 15 years, then I bought another NOS one.

Even the years I worked the same jobs, a Schrade Old Timer stockman or Case large stockman was my constant companion. Both carbon steel.

You know what, though? I never needed more than that. Yeah, they were carbon. Dry them after a rainy day, and I never have seen rust on either. Keep them clean and sharp, and they're all that's needed.

The mountain men of yore worked the woods with a thin-bladed butcher knife, a small axe and a pocketknife. A small stone was enough to sharpen it up. Somehow, though, that's not enough anymore. We demand the best S30V, ground thick as an axe, and diamonds to put an edge on.

Makes me wonder what we're doing wrong.
 
Sword and Shield said:
If there is one thing about the knife collecting hobby that really bothers me, it's this thread, or the mentality behind it.

Dad's worked construction for 40+ years at this point. The knives? A Case Sodbuster, a Schrade 125OT, and for the last 20 or so years, a small Craftsman lockback from Schrade. He abuses knives as badly as any of us, yet those three worked. I have the Sodbuster- it's worn but still snappy with no play. The 125OT got stolen. The tiny lockback was lost after about 15 years, then I bought another NOS one.

Even the years I worked the same jobs, a Schrade Old Timer stockman or Case large stockman was my constant companion. Both carbon steel.

You know what, though? I never needed more than that. Yeah, they were carbon. Dry them after a rainy day, and I never have seen rust on either. Keep them clean and sharp, and they're all that's needed.

The mountain men of yore worked the woods with a thin-bladed butcher knife, a small axe and a pocketknife. A small stone was enough to sharpen it up. Somehow, though, that's not enough anymore. We demand the best S30V, ground thick as an axe, and diamonds to put an edge on.

Makes me wonder what we're doing wrong.
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First we had radios then black and white TV's. Now we have streaming video on our phones. Whether that's good or bad, I can't say. ;)
 
Sword and Shield said:
If there is one thing about the knife collecting hobby that really bothers me, it's this thread, or the mentality behind it.

Even the years I worked the same jobs, a Schrade Old Timer stockman or Case large stockman was my constant companion. Both carbon steel.

You know what, though? I never needed more than that. Yeah, they were carbon. Dry them after a rainy day, and I never have seen rust on either. Keep them clean and sharp, and they're all that's needed.

The mountain men of yore worked the woods with a thin-bladed butcher knife, a small axe and a pocketknife. A small stone was enough to sharpen it up. Somehow, though, that's not enough anymore. We demand the best S30V, ground thick as an axe, and diamonds to put an edge on.

Makes me wonder what we're doing wrong.
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No offense but with that philosophy we'd never have advanced beyond stone knives.
 
Stelth said:
No offense but with that philosophy we'd never have advanced beyond stone knives.
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Not true. There's a functional advantage for steel over iron, iron over bronze, bronze over copper, copper over stone.

However, when the reason for saying someone's daily user "sucks" is either a price tag or a whizbang steel that wouldn't work any better since it chips easier and is harder to sharpen? There's no advancement there.
 
For me I want a knife I can put a ton of trust into. I am currently carrying a SAK at work. I like it it functions fine and does what I want it to. Cut things. However if I had to cut someone out of a car wreck or something this knife is next to useless. Another comparison for me would be I recently bought a Kabar War sword. I went out and started chopping around with it alot. It takes a sharp edge, but, compared to the Sykco S5 I had its edge retention was way way less. I can also flex the 9.75" blade in my hands which is kinda scary. I cant ever remember being able to bend my Scrapper 5 which is the same thinckness in my hands. For me I think its very safe for my to say I could cut someone out of a car with my Scrapper 5 and could put alot of faith in it. I like fit and finish and to me there are differences with a quality blade and a cheaper one. But if it works for you that is all that matters. With a folding knife I in no way want to be worried that the lock could fail and cut my finger horribly. My Endura 4 has been dropped on concrete I have thrown it at posts cut cans and metal with it. It is a folder I can put trust into as well and it is just thin liners and FRN handles which really makes me want to handle ZT.

Another counter example. I hunt yearly with my Grandpa ( Pheasant ) We hunt with the man who invented the truck bed liner, he has more money than he knows what to do with. He and his Son in law and grandson all carry expensive shotguns. For him a Benelli and Berettas. Me and my grandpa both use Winchester Model 12's a gun that is long enduring, just look at half of the movie prop shotguns, model 12, Trenchguns are modified model 12's. Our 200 dollar gun easily shoots as well as his 1000 dollar one. And I would put my faith in the solid build of a 12 over the lightweight Benelli. But that is just me. Sorry for the book.
Variety is the spice of life, If it works for you then it works.
 
Sword & Shield:
Without setbacks there would be no advancement.
I doubt the first flint knife worked as good as the 10th iteration.
 
Wonder what the responses would be to "Too-informed cocky collectors of nice knives".
 
Sword and Shield said:
If there is one thing about the knife collecting hobby that really bothers me, it's this thread, or the mentality behind it.

Dad's worked construction for 40+ years at this point. The knives? A Case Sodbuster, a Schrade 125OT, and for the last 20 or so years, a small Craftsman lockback from Schrade. He abuses knives as badly as any of us, yet those three worked. I have the Sodbuster- it's worn but still snappy with no play. The 125OT got stolen. The tiny lockback was lost after about 15 years, then I bought another NOS one.

Even the years I worked the same jobs, a Schrade Old Timer stockman or Case large stockman was my constant companion. Both carbon steel.

You know what, though? I never needed more than that. Yeah, they were carbon. Dry them after a rainy day, and I never have seen rust on either. Keep them clean and sharp, and they're all that's needed.

The mountain men of yore worked the woods with a thin-bladed butcher knife, a small axe and a pocketknife. A small stone was enough to sharpen it up. Somehow, though, that's not enough anymore. We demand the best S30V, ground thick as an axe, and diamonds to put an edge on.

Makes me wonder what we're doing wrong.
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We have come a very long way, a very, very long way in knife design and steel technology since the 70's....

I was also one of those who always carried a stockman or some kinda of slipjoint... And I really used my knives back then also.

So having use my knives, really used them I can say what I did and I wish we had steels like S30V and S90V back then, they would have been heaven.

I currently carry a Para 2 in S90V to work and yeah it does get used a lot to cut cardboard, shrink wrap and other stuff...... And I don't have to sharpen it very often, sofar it's been 3 weeks and I haven't touched the edge yet and don't expect to for a very long time..
 
Sword and Shield said:
The mountain men of yore worked the woods with a thin-bladed butcher knife, a small axe and a pocketknife. A small stone was enough to sharpen it up. Somehow, though, that's not enough anymore. We demand the best S30V, ground thick as an axe, and diamonds to put an edge on.

Makes me wonder what we're doing wrong.
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Apples and oranges. What a mountain man carried on his pack mule is not what I'm going to carry on my back. They used their cutlery different then us and were heavily dependent on the axe for their woodworking. Their thin knife was for food, not woodworking. Also, they bought the best gear they had at the time. Axes and thin knives used less steel(which was harder to produce back then) and made the costs reasonable and in the quantities that were needed. If they had access to the steel we have today they would buy it. You have cultures the world over who use 1/4" or thicker knives as a matter of day to day life. We're not reinventing the wheel with there use here and now.

As to the OP this snobbery comes up a lot here. If someone shows me a "POS" knife that's razor sharp then I say it's cool. If someone shows me a dull Sebenza, I make fun of THEM not their chosen knife.
 
If someone is happy with their knife who am I to say different? Perhaps ppl look down upon my beloved blades.

Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do.
-Dale Carnegie-
 
Never Dull said:
If someone is happy with their knife who am I to say different? Perhaps ppl look down upon my beloved blades.

Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do.
-Dale Carnegie-
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Well, I know that a few guys here in our place, who love their no.1 hard use knives look down on my spydies. :D

But I don't care, it floats my boat.
 
I gave a spydie to my brothers girlfriend
it reminded me of her
small , sharp , can do a hell of a lot more damage than youd think just lookin at it , and when its not getting attention it goes all cold ...
I respect spydies
 
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