Uninformed cocky users of bad knives

someone posted this

"The mountain men of yore worked the woods with a thin-bladed butcher knife, a small axe and a pocketknife. A small stone was enough to sharpen it up. Somehow, though, that's not enough anymore. We demand the best S30V, ground thick as an axe, and diamonds to put an edge on.

Makes me wonder what we're doing wrong."


If they had s30v and diamond stones and titanium you sure as hell know they would use it.As society progresses and so does technology (powdered steels etc) would you rather use a iron blade and take 15 min to do a job or a friggin M390 or CTS-20CP one and get it done in 5 min?

just because i can dig a hole with a teaspoon doesnt mean its the best idea...
 
Super steel doesn't make it a "good knife" quality and workmanship do

A "bad knife" is not just a "lower grade" steel or whatever it's a poorly made knife

I'd rather have a well made knife of 420 than a poorly made and badly finished piece s30v(or whatever the hell you think is "good")

My opinion
 
I dunno, but I'm wondering, would the mountain men be satisfied with their muzzle loaders if the had access to the firearm technology today?
 
Everyone should enjoy the knives they like whether cheap or expensive. But realize not everybody will share their view of said knives.
 
singularity35 said:
First we had radios then black and white TV's. Now we have streaming video on our phones. Whether that's good or bad, I can't say. ;)
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Well sort of..

You left out the step where we went from having land line telephones to sending email (an arguably slower form of communication). At some point we decided that while cell phones were great, perhaps we could take another step back and remove the ability to effectively convey tone by using text messages.

Not sure if those concepts have any parallels to this thread or not, but the idea that we are doing something wrong (i.e. mountain men had it right) would require for us to first understand what we are doing...then we can decide if it is wrong.
 
unit said:
Well sort of..

You left out the step where we went from having land line telephones to sending email (an arguably slower form of communication). At some point we decided that while cell phones were great, perhaps we could take another step back and remove the ability to effectively convey tone by using text messages.

Not sure if those concepts have any parallels to this thread or not, but the idea that we are doing something wrong (i.e. mountain men had it right) would require for us to first understand what we are doing...then we can decide if it is wrong.
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I don't think it's really progress, more like regression really in a lot of ways for a lot of reasons.....

Now when talking about knives there has been some real progress although the way some talk if they had there way we would still be in the Bronze Age as long as it was cheap. ;)
 
At church yesterday, I had my knife out to cut some tape. A fellow member picked it up and gave it the once-over. "That's a pretty knife."

"Thank you. It's genuine abalone shell."

"Where did you get that?"

"It was made for me by my friend Andre Thorburn of Pertoria, South Africa."

"I'll be that cost... what? $50?"

"Ahhh.... $500."

"You use that?"

"Of course."
 
Gollnick said:
At church yesterday, I had my knife out to cut some tape. A fellow member picked it up and gave it the once-over. "That's a pretty knife."

"Thank you. It's genuine abalone shell."

"Where did you get that?"

"It was made for me by my friend Andre Thorburn of Pertoria, South Africa."

"I'll be that cost... what? $50?"

"Ahhh.... $500."

"You use that?"

"Of course."
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Reminds me of the story I once read about a dealer at a knife show that had some knives for sale.

A guy came up and asked how much..... It was Three Seventy Five... The guy said OK and walked away....

The next day the Guy came back and said how much..... Three Seventy Five.... The guy said Ok and walked away....

The last day of the Show the guy came back and said how much...... Three Seventy Five....

The guy pulled out a $5 Bill and said what he wanted in change......

Ahh NO, that's Three Hundred and Seventy Five..... Not $3.75....

The saddest thing about this is the total idiot that was stupid enough to think that the knife was $3.75 and was trying to get a discount on that...... That is totally pathetic and a lot of reason why the US and now the world is going down the tubes.

Most consumers are complete idiots really when it comes to most things, even down to gas they put in their cars. They will drive 10 miles to save 5 cents a gallon never comprehending they not only Burnt up all their savings just getting there and that cheap gas won't last as long most of the time. So they lose both ways, but are too stupid to realise it.

Or the Morons that will drive across town to save a Dollar on something, well they spent more money getting there than they saved in the end.

With over 25 years in Customer service of one type or another I have pretty much heard it all and see complete stupidity everyday to the point I wonder how some people even tie their shoes by themselves..... Oh that's right they wear flip flops so they don't have too......

And these people are allowed to Vote, reproduce and raise kids.... The horrors of those thoughts....

Makes me think if the Current Society and way of life in general is really worth saving.....


In the knife industry today we have the best designs and the best steels that have ever been available, we really are living in awesome times as far as knives are concerned.
 
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only folks with serious mental problems get upset over what some total stranger thinks of their ANYTHING. The seriousness of the mental issues are only compounded by the incident happening on the inna-net :D
 
I've made this comparison before, but likely the very same people who cannot rationalize $400 for a pocket knife are the same ones that spend $500 on a golf driver or a smart phone.

Our kids will be using our pocketknives while their obsolete golf drivers and smart phones are sitting in the landfill.

Prof.
 
Ankerson said:
I don't think it's really progress, more like regression really in a lot of ways for a lot of reasons.....

Now when talking about knives there has been some real progress although the way some talk if they had there way we would still be in the Bronze Age as long as it was cheap. ;)
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Yeah that whole line of thought is idiotic to me. Stone knives worked for our ancestors so why use steel?:rolleyes:
 
Professor said:
I've made this comparison before, but likely the very same people who cannot rationalize $400 for a pocket knife are the same ones that spend $500 on a golf driver or a smart phone.

Our kids will be using our pocketknives while their obsolete golf drivers and smart phones are sitting in the landfill.

Prof.
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Not to mention those expensive cars and other stuff people buy..... ;)

Like the dude who is driving that $50,000+ car and thinks that $300 is too much to spend on a knife....


REALLY........? :rolleyes:

Heck their wife likely spends way more than that a month just on makeup.....

Not even getting into the salon bills per month....

How about the money spent eating out all the time......

There are lots of things people spend money, or should I say blow money on....
 
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Ankerson said:
Most consumers are complete idiots really when it comes to most things, even down to gas they put in their cars. They will drive 10 miles to save 5 cents a gallon never comprehending they not only Burnt up all their savings just getting there and that cheap gas won't last as long most of the time. So they lose both ways, but are too stupid to realise it.

Or the Morons that will drive across town to save a Dollar on something, well they spent more money getting there than they saved in the end.
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Let us not forget the truly "smart" shopper that will call every place in town (while on the clock at their job) to obtain pricing so they do not waste their fuel.

I had an office next to a Senior Manager's (Civil Engineering) at my old job. A few months before I quit I sat at my drafting table and listened to him spend over 2 hours calling around town to shop for a brake job on his mini van. (The guy's time billed out at well over $150 per hour).
 
unit said:
Let us not forget the truly "smart" shopper that will call every place in town (while on the clock at their job) to obtain pricing so they do not waste their fuel.

I had an office next to a Senior Manager's (Civil Engineering) at my old job. A few months before I quit I sat at my drafting table and listened to him spend over 2 hours calling around town to shop for a brake job on his mini van. (The guy's time billed out at well over $150 per hour).
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Any people wonder why nothing gets done.... I would have fired him on the spot.......Then he would have had plenty of time to find the best price.......LOL

How about the ones who chat all day long at work instead of working and or text ect.
 
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I have seen people on all ends of the spectrum. I tend to be fairly good with money, but I enjoy quality things. This is something that was passed down to me from my dad and grandfather. They always favored buying quality, long lasting items and taking really good care of them. As such, most of the tools my grandfather bought are still in use by my family today and will survive for many generations. I've learned to take very good care of my cherished items (car, house, high quality knives, etc.) and I buy cheaper tools when I'm going to subject items to abuse. I don't want to chip the blade on one of my >$50 knives cutting copper wire. I tend to carry one nice knife, for when I need something extremely sharp, and a cheap knife that I feel comfortable abusing. I'll use both, for different tasks. The cheap knife will usually be sharp too, but when it's not I don't really care.

I know plenty of people who prefer to buy inexpensive lower-quality things because they are not enamored with things in the same way I am. They just abuse them and replace them.

I also know people who buy nice things and abuse them.

Many years back my dad and I each bought Kershaw Hawk Ti pocket knives. I used mine about as much as my dad, but I carefully maintained the edge (touched it up weekly) and didn't cut anything that would chip the blade. I typically sharpened it on fine ceramic stones. My knife still looks not much different from new (scratches on the handle, but the blade looks great), but that's because I used other knives for hard use. During this same period of time, my dad hard-used his Hawk Ti. the blade is scratched to hell, the width of the blade is a fair bit less and the blade is shorter due to so many sharpenings (he uses an electric water-wheel knife sharpener), and it is no longer the same knife. I have no problem with how my dad used it, but he's moved on to benchmade 940 which is being used in much the same way. Eventually he'll replace that with another knife.

To each his own.

The worst thing about this thread is all the elitism. Even from the guy who made his own knife. I commend him on making his own knife, but the smugness is unnecessary.
 
Hallucinosis said:
The worst thing about this thread is all the elitism. Even from the guy who made his own knife. I commend him on making his own knife, but the smugness is unnecessary.
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With all due respect, isn't it kind of a holier-than-though attitude to post up in a thread and make a statement like this?

I mean, I agree that there are some lousy attitudes, but it is pretty bold (dare I say, "elitist"?) to post up and call everyone out on it:D

Just jokes, man. Have a nice day;)
 
How about the guy that asks to see your knife then commences to stabbing it into the closest bench he can find to see how deep it will go.
 
that is the nature of opinion, when your clueless you have a firm one. the more you learn the less your opinion matters to you. until finally your so well informed that you dont bother giving your opinion anymore, you just enjoy the knives you have.
 
I've said things about CRKs that some people didn't like, but hey that's my opinion. Learn to respect it. Likewise if someone were to say something negative about my Benchmade or Spydie I may not like it, but hey it's their opinion.
 
ATF6281914 said:
I've said things about CRKs that some people didn't like, but hey that's my opinion. Learn to respect it.
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We don't have to respect each other's opinions.
We just have to accept the right of each other to have them (no matter how wrong they may be:D).
 
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