Unsecure package ... Empty

All is well.

The seller got in contact with me and will reimburse me in a few days.
 
tomcrx said:
So delivery confirmation allows the denial of insurance or any claim? That is the pits :(

Sounds like a dishonest person could just drop a torn, empty box into the Post Office drop box with Delivery confirmation by buying postage at one of the kiosks. Viola it is delivered and the buyer gets stiffed.
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Insurance is great. Lost or stolen items are covered and the postal inspector is not someone that bad guys want involved. Unless it is going to cost the USPS money they don't get too excited, but mail fraud has some pretty stiff penalties. Also, it is impressive how much better a package is treated if it says "Insured" on it. It won't get left on a ghetto porch for sure...

Charlie Mike said:
All is well.

The seller got in contact with me and will reimburse me in a few days.
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Great, sounds like things are working out for you.
 
knifeswapper said:
Also, it is impressive how much better a package is treated if it says "Insured" on it. It won't get left on a ghetto porch for sure...
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That's why I insure EVERYTHING now.
 
The shipper is responsible for the parcel contents until delivery, so it sounds like he's doing the right thing. I had a similar situation here recently where I wanted a few older FRN Spydies and the seller wanted to sell me an old Ontario Jet Pilots knife (that I didn't want) as well - at $10 extra I took the JP knife, but he shipped all three in, if IIRC, a plain manilla envelope.

Needless to say, all that arrived was a ripped envelope, the JP knife, and a note like CM's - the Spydies were lost somewhere in transit (the weight of the JP knife had shredded the envelope) - the seller did the right thing and refunded my coin for the lost knives. :thumbup:

I traded the JP knife to a friend last week for a factory SIG mag...
 
JTR357 said:
I agree with this.The seller owes you a knife or a refund.Should've got insurance.
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I once had a purchase here on BF for a sage 2 that did not make it into my hands. It was also via USPS Priority mail w/o Insurance.

In the end, I had to make a claim via paypal to recover my $100. As soon as the funds were received, I sent $50 back to the seller.

Whilst I would have agreed that the seller is responsible for the package regardless of the shipping methods (I have fully reimbursed a buyer an item damaged in transit once.), I did not feel the seller should have absorbed 100% of the lost. Perhaps it's naive but, I feel selling over the forums should be a bit different than venues such as ebay.

However, I was definitely not happy that my package was lost/stolen. & I was even less happy that I HAD to use the paypal dispute to get my money back. :mad: As soon as there was a problem with the shipment, I felt the seller should have been proactive & at least offered to refund be 50% (I personally would have refunded 100%.)

I hope it works out for you. Given the pic of the box, I would guess that "sticky fingers" somewhere along the lines of transport grabbed your knife.

-Scooby
 
The earlier question still hasn't been answered. Besides the visual theft deterrent of your package being insured, I doubt a claim would be paid for this type of knife. I have talked to many high volume sellers and traders who agree insurance on USPS shipped items of this type is a waste of money.
 
How would you ship a peculiar knife?
 
Me, I package extremely well and pray. ;)

I have not had to file a claim for usps insurance for anything, so I'm not sure the procedure of proving contents and value. Maybe both partys could lie and say it was another type of knife and get the claim paid. Friends of mine who mail dozens of these type knives a week say they would rather "eat" the cost of a lost knife then have to lie about the contents.

I would really be interested in knowing if anyone has collected on a knife of this type, and what they did to get reimberesed from usps.


BTW-Charlie...Really good to hear the seller is doing the right thing. :thumbup:
 
knifeswapper said:
Insurance is great. Lost or stolen items are covered and the postal inspector is not someone that bad guys want involved. Unless it is going to cost the USPS money they don't get too excited, but mail fraud has some pretty stiff penalties. Also, it is impressive how much better a package is treated if it says "Insured" on it. It won't get left on a ghetto porch for sure...
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I had a USPS package shipped to me with insuarance and delivery confirmation that was supposedly left on my doorstep. My wife was home all day and she never heard the doorbell and it wasn't there any time she looked. Postal insurance was useless because package was delivered. Ebay/Paypal dispute was useless because package was delivered. We assumed it was stolen, but can't be sure. It could have been delivered to the wrong house, but since the P.O. shows it as being delivered, it's not their problem.
 
Brian_R170 said:
I had a USPS package shipped to me with insuarance and delivery confirmation that was supposedly left on my doorstep. My wife was home all day and she never heard the doorbell and it wasn't there any time she looked. Postal insurance was useless because package was delivered. Ebay/Paypal dispute was useless because package was delivered. We assumed it was stolen, but can't be sure. It could have been delivered to the wrong house, but since the P.O. shows it as being delivered, it's not their problem.
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If it is insured for over $200 you must sign for it. I've switched to Signature Delivery Confirmation now on less expensive items.
 
Just for general information, with some few exceptions, none of which would commonly apply to most knife collectors, the shipment of "those" knives across state lines is illegal PERIOD. So, if you want to ship them by the USPS, OR ANY COMMON CARRIER, to be prudent and plan ahead for possible loss, you would need a receipt that specifies the maker, BUT NOT THE ACTION, and price to the buyer along with proof of payment for that amount by buyer. That should be sufficient unless the manufacturer/maker only makes autos. Whether it would bother someone to place a claim for an illegal shipment is up to that individual. Since some of these knives sell for well in excess of $5000, I'd be preparing ahead if I was the shipper. Also, if the value is very high FOR ANYTHING, SEND IT REGISTERED MAIL. The loss rate on registered mail is nearly zero, since everyone who handles it has to sign for it, there are special storage regs, etc. I just received $10,000 worth of small items (not a heavy package, less than a pound) by registered mail, cost less than $35 to mail and insure.
 
Interestingly I yesterday emailed an online knife dealer about a knife I bought from him which seemed to be a few days late in delivery, he used USPS and their tracking site is just about useless as far as pertinent information goes; here is what he had to say:

"We are not showing a scan yet either. Deliveries are usually 3-5 days. A few years ago the USPS seemed to be doing inspections on packages. We had a constant 1% of shipments that took 30 days for delivery and had been opened. Suddenly that stopped and we have not seen this for about 2 years. We will check back and let you know if there is new information."
 
I've been properly reimbursed. Cool beans.
 
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