Virtual BBQ WIP West Coast Hunter

Ok, knife got back from heat treat yesterday and I made some progress this evening.

Once I got the knife, the first thing I did was soak it overnight in some distilled white vinegar. It gives the blade a nice etch and that way when I grind in the swedge and clean up the bevels I can see where material needs to be removed easier. It's like a cheap form of Dykem.

Here is the blade out of the vinegar etch, ready for some work. The bright spot on the tang is where Peters tested the hardness of the blade after heat treat. 60-61RC.
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Ground the swedge
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Cleaned up the bevels, getting close to being ready for handles and a maker's mark.

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Thanks guys! Glad you're enjoying it.

Going to have to take a break for a few days, heading to the mountains for my wife's birthday and won't be back in the shop until wednesday night. Next order of business will be drilling and profiling the handle slabs and then glue up.
 
Awesome as always buddy. Top notch grinds! Maybe I missed it, but what finish are you planning on the flats? Gonna keep the vinegar etch? If so, how well can you etch your MM over top of that?

Keep it up man, can't wait to see this with slabs soon! :thumbup:
 
Awesome as always buddy. Top notch grinds! Maybe I missed it, but what finish are you planning on the flats? Gonna keep the vinegar etch? If so, how well can you etch your MM over top of that?

Keep it up man, can't wait to see this with slabs soon! :thumbup:

Thanks guys! I hate to say it but I wish I wasn't going away for a few days with the family....I'd love to be working on this one:D

Wolffie, I've etched my mark over etched steel before without issue. For this one though the mark might go in the upper right corner of the bevel. Not sure yet.
 
Ok, got back to work on this one over the last two days.

Unfortunately I forgot to take pics of my etching process, but I use a personalizer with stencils from Ernie and Tracy Mickley's solution from USA Knife Maker.

First order of business was to get handles drilled for tubes and profiled.

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Next I drill some good sized divots on the back side of the scales for epoxy to collect in when attaching the handle to the tang. Coupled with the holes in the tang it allows a lot of epoxy into the area to create a good thick, strong bond. I figure the more contact the materials have with the epoxy the better. I'm careful to keep the divots away from the edges of the handle though to avoid exposing these epoxy pockets during handle shaping.

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Once I have the profiles roughed out and the back side drilled, I shape the fronts of the scales and get them finished up since I can't do it once the handles are epoxied to the tang.

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I finished the fronts to 600 grit but I had some voids in the carbon fiber, so I had to do a little filling. I use a good, thin super glue to fill the tiny holes then go back a couple of grits and bring it back to 600.

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Setting up for handle glue up. First I rough up both the tang and the back sides of the handles really good with 50 grit SC paper, then clean them all thoroughly with first acetone and then rubbing alcohol. I do the same to the pins. Make sure everything is completely dry before continuing.

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I prefer to use West Systems G-flex slow cure epoxy for my knives. I've tested it pretty hard and it holds up extremely well.

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After mixing up the epoxy, I first apply a little bit to the ends of my tubes and insert them in one side of the handle. Next I coat the handle slab really well making sure all of my divots are full. I wear latex gloves for this not just to keep epoxy off my hands but also to keep oils from my hands from getting on any parts. I want everything to be very clean for the best possible bond. Next I coat the tang with epoxy and slide it over the pins, then coat the top side of the tang, again making sure I fill up all of the holes with adhesive.

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Then I coat the second slab and lower it onto the knife. I like my pins to fit really snugly (my buddy Coty Handley taught me that very early on), so it is usually necessary to use a rubber mallet to tap the top slab down onto the tang. I don't hit it very hard but pretty firmly. If my laminated handles can't take a little bit of abuse, then what good are they!

Once the knife is all together, it's time to slowly compress the slabs to the tang for a good fit with minimal or no gap. This is when the fun begins and I go through about 87 Q-Tips wiping away all the excess epoxy that slowly oozes out the sides as I compress the slabs. This is also the most tedious part because my fingers get extremely numb and cramped after pinching the blade to hold the knife while I do the epoxy wiping process. It's a pain in the butt, but better than setting the knife down and having to deal with pubbles of epoxy all over the work bench.

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When I'm all done clamping and wiping away epoxy it looks like this. These 1.5" Kant Twist clamps are my favorites! You have tons of control over how hard you clamp them down and they are small but get the job done really well. No shop should be without a dozen or so at least. Also, if I'm not mistaken they're still made in the USA.

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Now the knife will sit like this for at least twenty four hours and we'll move on from there.

Thanks for looking!
 
Cool buddy,

I got a few things out of this last post that I can employ immediately. Thanks for sharing. PS, lpi on your checkering jig? I'm going to guess 20. I usually guess wrong. Except at poker.

EA
 
Cool buddy,

I got a few things out of this last post that I can employ immediately. Thanks for sharing. PS, lpi on your checkering jig? I'm going to guess 20. I usually guess wrong. Except at poker.

EA

Yeah, I think 20 LPI is right. More like 18 or 19 on mine.......those outer teeth snap off like nobody's business if you ain't careful!! :D

As far as poker goes, you'll have to prove it to me!
 
As you can see, Jon,

I was rated 96th percentile in 2009 among 1.7M players, 2010 sucked, but in 2011, I was on the rise until the government seized Pokerstars. I only played low stakes, but was about to chip up......

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Jonny, that looks great. I'm picking up all kinds of tips from your WIP. I appreciate it.

Since we're talking Poker. I entered my one and only No Limit Texas Hold Em tournament last year here in Washington for our Select Baseball team. 247 poker players and I smoked those fools. They were all telling me it was unfair because I'm from Vegas. It was pretty cool. I still have the deck the dealer gave me when I won the last hand at the big table.
 
Thanks guys! Glad you're finding some helpful info.

Erik and Michael, let's play some poker!! :D
 
Cool - almost there!

By the way, one little tip I'd like to share - when putting it all together and squeezing thong hole tubes or handle bolts into tight holes, instead of banging them in with a mallet you can clamp the whole thing in a vise and slowly squeeze them through in a very controlled manner - no shocks or vibrations this way and less chance of an errant hammer blow messing something up for you!
 
Very nice Jonny!!!! Liking the looks of this one. My next one from you will have a sweet swedge :D
 
Very cool jonny. I am looking forward to seeing your handle finishing process!

As for wiping away all the excess epoxy, is that mainly so you don't get a drippy mess on the bench? Or does it make finishing easier later?

Keep it up buddy :thumbup:

PS: Saw your elmax fighter in the C&H forum, wicked!
 
Great WIP, I've picked up a lot of little tips and tricks. :) I originally checked it out because I was curious about the finish on the flats. I saw it on your FB page and was wondering whether it was acid or blasted. I think I need to pick up a small blasting setup, it is too nice a finish to not be able to do.

You're doing outstanding work.
 
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