W2 Forged Integral Hawk WIP (FINAL PICTURES)

ScottRoush said:
So the technical term for my clipped point is a 'poon eh?? Well... I was thinking of keeping it because that's how I handle the really thin points I sometimes leave on the kiridashis I make as carpenter's scribes.... to give them strength. So scouter27... This thing may indeed sport a 'poon. Does that apostrophe indicate a clicking sound as in Kalahari bush tongue? A 'click' poon? Still fevered? maybe.

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This is what I meant, the prominent "hump" on the spine, or in your hawk's case, at top, near where the eye would be on a traditional style hawk. Maybe I'm just seeing things, because I only notice it in the first photo (looking again), not the others

The clip, I would call a clip, I guess. Vector001, of Equinox Coronado, showed a video of doing this to a Tramontina machete in a video to improve its stab-ability. He calls it a "sharks tooth" tip.

I like it on your hawk as well :cool:
 
ahhhh... it's funny because there WAS one. But I had to grind it down to get to clean welds. But I was thinking of grinding out to the front to bring it back. I like those because it gives you a clean place to stop the swedge grind.

You must've seen it's ghost.
 
Looks great Scott! I'm really diggin' the wrought iron and W2, can't wait to see what's next.
 
A 'click' poon?
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I think you can get a shot for that , sounds like a recessive genetic mutation....

Scott this is amazing project and truly interesting to follow. I love the ones that evolve....
I had some requests to look into doing a forged full tang hawk
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You passed my abilities at this line but the welding failures and recovery have been illuminating for us old iron bangers, plow some new ground Brother, we are watching with earnest....
 
good grief. I'm glad 'poon' got explained as something innocent, cuz where I come from it means something very specific that has nothing to do with steel.....
 
I think that sentiment was in all of our minds Zombiechopper. Scouter... I hope you know we are all just having fun. Poon is a word that is intrinsically funny.

Well I quenched it today. I've just completed the first tempering cycle at 405F and am waiting for it to cool off so I can sharpen it and do some preliminary testing. It's important to test blades that have been laminated with low carbon materials because you can get carbon migration into the outer layer reducing the hardenability. But, in all honesty, now that I have a press.. the welding and forging go fast with so few heats, it really isn't an issue. And I never noticed any problems before the press anyway. A more important concern is that I got hardness high into the blade. I've done wrought iron/high carbon axes before that had perfectly hard edges but the cores were soft enough (and wrought iron doesn't harden at all) that the blade wanted to bend when doing heavy chopping. Therefore... I test. I've got 12 logger cord of red oak sitting out by the shop. One of those will feel my wrath.
 
ScottRoush said:
Scouter... I hope you know we are all just having fun. Poon is a word that is intrinsically funny.
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And here I thought the internet was all serious business ;)

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I don't know... have you ever been scratched by one of those beasts?

Okay.. testing after the 405F temper. It passed, which is good.

The first thing I like to do is chop on some greenish bamboo and brass. Bamboo can be pretty rough on edges. And then go over it with a hand lens to look for either chips or roll overs.

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Then for some heavy chopping on oak to make sure nothing wants to bend. Especially the spike. I buried that sucker deep and worked it sideways splitting the log. By the way... before testing I sharpened it enough so that it could slice through paper unhindered. Just a bench mark to make sure it keeps doing that throughout.

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Anyway... it kept slicing paper and never saw any chips or rollovers. And the spike stayed straight and strong which was a great relief.

After it's done tempering... any suggestions for good testing methods? Within reason?

Oh.. and it now has a poon... and a clip.
 
I was worried that you lost your poon ...This thing is great Scott and that frozen Oak should be a formidable opponent...
I'm all beside myself waiting on the finished product....
 
Not all those who wander have lost their poons.

Holy Smokes I'm getting this thing done! But not really.

Filing the head to be flush with the scales:

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Milling the slot in the scales for the tang:

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Here it is almost polished and a test etch to see what the pattern et. al. will look like. I'm still pondering what to do with the top. File work. Bevel it. What? More curve? Still have some shaping of the spike to do as well. Stuff I need to think about.

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The spike. Look at that old iron. You can still see the blood, sweat and tears of the poor saps that smelted that stuff. This was iron made in the crudest, most economical way possible and done just well enough to get the job done. No more. Any less.. and it would still be rocks.

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Is that a poon I'm looking at? Very nice pattern, it's looking good. I thought your tang was going to be shorter, is that still a plan? What are you gonna call this, poon-tang?:eek:
 
the poon-tang hawk 'tis dubbed. A mighty name indeed. Men will slay dragons and sell their own Mothers to acquire such a fine thing.
 
Look what you've done Foxx!

Jay Goliath just made me realize I re-invented the BESH tip on my spike..

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I am sorry, it was late, my fingers just blurted it out. I would never try to name another guys creation, on purpose. It was just a hilarious thought, followed by another about axe wounds. Yet, Poon Tang does seem popular with you guys.;)
 
It's all just fun and games until you give somebody's axe an unfortunate name. No problem.. :-)

Well it's now down to the wire... but I now have to take a break and finish a knife due by Christmas.. and then take off for some holiday travel. I will be able show the finished pictures next week however.

Here is a pic showing the tang with one scale glued on. I didn't want to skeletize it since it's already reduced in weight... but I did do a little rough hollow grinding to further reduce weight and give more purchase for epoxy.

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And here is a preview of what the final thing will look like. I just put some dark brown leather dye on to get an idea of the grain... but I will back sand some of the darkness away before it's finished. It has steel pins and a copper lanyard tube. The over-all length is 12.5" minus the glass breaker. I'm still working on that... not yet sure how to handle it. The head is 3/8" at the thickest part. The balance, right now, is just between the first two pins. The weight is 1 pound 12 Oz. And I still haven't addressed the top of the head. I did some more bamboo chopping to make sure it didn't soften up too much after two more normalizing cycles at 420F. When I return next week I plan to do a lot more chopping so I can get an idea as to how to finish grinding the handle. I did a deep etch in ferric chloride of the head as this leaves a very resilient finish ... you will never lose the wrought iron character on this one!

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Looking forward to some feedback here. Just keep in mind the handle is still very rough in terms of finish so there is leeway for doing some things.
 
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