WARNING Black Starr knives scam !!!!

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Esav Benyamin said:
Don't worry about them. If anyone is tired of reading your posts, they can click on another thread.

There was a problem at first, we solved it, FEEDBACK is for updated information about people we deal with, good and bad. Some people are tired of this topic, they can read something else; others have been participating with interest.
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thank you Esav im not trying to upset people im just extremely upset about it and trying to expose at has been done to me to people who I figure care about this stuff
 
darthrambo said:
I told him I am very unhappy and not satisfied and now he did it on purpose and he blames the carbon steel then says "you don't know enough about steel" even though I have plenty of carbon steel knives and his answer to make it right is send it back and he will refinish it ya I said it someone who has given me the runaround and lied to me for 8 months about sending a knife to me wants me to send it back so he can re beadblast it and trust him to not screw me again
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Carbon steel does not rust in two days unless the package was soaked. This guy sounds like he has a problem? Tell him you want your money back for this knife that is sounding more & more like a put together from overseas parts?

Can you post a picture of this knife?
 
Rhinoknives1 said:
Carbon steel does not rust in two days unless the package was soaked. This guy sounds like he has a problem? Tell him you want your money back for this knife that is sounding more & more like a put together from overseas parts?

Can you post a picture of this knife?
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ive tried several times over the 8 months to ask for a refund and he refuses saying things like its a custom knife when I asked for nothing custom just a exact replica like he advertises and claims he gave me a discount price and paid 50 out of his own pocket even though I paid 500 with out a sheath and he sells them today for 550 with a sheath. I think I have to be a pay member to post pics but I can email them to you if your interested. I wish everyone could see what he claims happened in two days
 
I am knifemaker Andrew Clifford...

I'm tired of my name being put in the same sentence as "Black Star Knives", or "Brit G.". I don't consider the guy, either negatively or positively...I just don't consider him. I don't wish him any ill wil, nor do I wish him good luck. This thread was brought to my attention by another BF member. I think I registered before, not sure, but I no longer care to get on forums due to all the bashing that happens-whether true or not. I choose not to care either way. I don't have the time to live online, but I had to register, get on to post this.....

I had a negative situation between BSK and a customer, which was nothing more than a mix up over a misidentified knife on eBay, of all places. During the situation accusations were made that were untrue. The very same accusations being made against Britt here. He doesn't seem to keep that the parts from his knives are made elsewhere, afterall he told/blamed the other people for the parts not being ready, from what I gather. If his buyers are aware that he is not making the parts, being forthright about not being the one who makes all the parts, then there should be no issues on how the knives are made. As a knifemaker a good chunk of us have gone through something close with a disgruntled buyer at some point. Not delivering in a timely manner can cause issues for anyone. I'm not sticking up for Britt, he can do that on his own. I'm not discounting the buyers experience, that is unfortunate. If you are unhappy then ASK for a refund, plain and simple. If he refuses then what you are saying here is just.

Without getting into this, injecting any more of my opinion..."TheDemonBeast" I appreciate the praises, but I want my name out of any future posts in regards to FB knives, Britt G. or BSK! Every time my name is mentioned in the same sentence, situation I hear negativity through the grapevine. I do this knifemaking because I enjoy it, NOT to be in a perpetual pi$$ing contest with other makers, makers mentioned on/in this thread. Some of which I know like Ray Matton, whom also is a great knifemaker that does not want to be known for ONLY producing, making First Blood style knives. He makes many other styles, designs of his just as myself. I do not make exact "replicas", copies of other knifemakers with the exception of similar knives of makers no longer making theirs. And perhaps I should rethink using names, words that explain them as so....

I do hope DarthRambo gets his refund. It is my opinion that rust shouldn't form on a blade in two days UNLESS poorly tempered/heat treated and as mentioned above, stewing in water. NEVER should a knife be sent out in that condition to begin with. I find it surprising that BSK would do that. Pictures would speak a thousand words as to the truth for those that are reading this thread. Claims such as this can damage a makers reputation. It's unfortunate that Britt has been banned on BF and cannot stick up for himself here.

Good luck-

-Andrew Clifford
 
DarthRambo.. can you take pics, click the "Go Advanced" button and post a pic for all to see? I really think it's important for all reading this to see this rusting on the knife. Justifying your claims helps your "case"...and to be fair to Britt.
 
Rez_Dawg said:
I am knifemaker Andrew Clifford...

I'm tired of my name being put in the same sentence as "Black Star Knives", or "Brit G.". I don't consider the guy, either negatively or positively...I just don't consider him. I don't wish him any ill wil, nor do I wish him good luck. This thread was brought to my attention by another BF member. I think I registered before, not sure, but I no longer care to get on forums due to all the bashing that happens-whether true or not. I choose not to care either way. I don't have the time to live online, but I had to register, get on to post this.....

I had a negative situation between BSK and a customer, which was nothing more than a mix up over a misidentified knife on eBay, of all places. During the situation accusations were made that were untrue. The very same accusations being made against Britt here. He doesn't seem to keep that the parts from his knives are made elsewhere, afterall he told/blamed the other people for the parts not being ready, from what I gather. If his buyers are aware that he is not making the parts, being forthright about not being the one who makes all the parts, then there should be no issues on how the knives are made. As a knifemaker a good chunk of us have gone through something close with a disgruntled buyer at some point. Not delivering in a timely manner can cause issues for anyone. I'm not sticking up for Britt, he can do that on his own. I'm not discounting the buyers experience, that is unfortunate. If you are unhappy then ASK for a refund, plain and simple. If he refuses then what you are saying here is just.

Without getting into this, injecting any more of my opinion..."TheDemonBeast" I appreciate the praises, but I want my name out of any future posts in regards to FB knives, Britt G. or BSK! Every time my name is mentioned in the same sentence, situation I hear negativity through the grapevine. I do this knifemaking because I enjoy it, NOT to be in a perpetual pi$$ing contest with other makers, makers mentioned on/in this thread. Some of which I know like Ray Matton, whom also is a great knifemaker that does not want to be known for ONLY producing, making First Blood style knives. He makes many other styles, designs of his just as myself. I do not make exact "replicas", copies of other knifemakers with the exception of similar knives of makers no longer making theirs. And perhaps I should rethink using names, words that explain them as so....

I do hope DarthRambo gets his refund. It is my opinion that rust shouldn't form on a blade in two days UNLESS poorly tempered/heat treated and as mentioned above, stewing in water. NEVER should a knife be sent out in that condition to begin with. I find it surprising that BSK would do that. Pictures would speak a thousand words as to the truth for those that are reading this thread. Claims such as this can damage a makers reputation. It's unfortunate that Britt has been banned on BF and cannot stick up for himself here.

Good luck-

-Andrew Clifford
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I have asked him several times for a refund and he refuses I have not said anything about black starr knives that I cant back up with evidence in court I would not slander someone or a business im only telling exactly what he did to me that I have proof of. I will try to upload pics because I really want you guys to see
 
darthrambo said:
I have asked him several times for a refund and he refuses I have not said anything about black starr knives that I cant back up with evidence in court I would not slander someone or a business im only telling exactly what he did to me that I have proof of. I will try to upload pics because I really want you guys to see
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I opened a account on photobucket just to show you guys
 
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darthrambo said:
http://s794.photobucket.com/user/darthrambo1/media/knife_zps5f550400.jpg.html?sort=3&o=2
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Let's embed this for easier viewing:

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darthrambo said:
I opened a account on photobucket just to show you guys
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I tried to view your post via Photobucket and even opened an account with it. But when I clicked on your link I did not see any pics at all of your knife. I have never used Photobucket so maybe I am not doing it correctly? But anyway, I saw nothing as far as pics of your alleged rusty BSK FB knife.

OK, I see them now! I agree...for what you paid, you should of received an Immaculate FB knife....and you didn't. If you paid through PayPal you can go through them and get your refund. I agree, you should send that knife back and get a full refund. But also, if you know someone and you took that FB knife and had it re-sand blasted, that would take the rust off of it and make it to look immaculate. I am fortunate enough that I know a guy within a few miles from me that does sand blasting/ bead blasting of knives and other things. And he only charges me a few dollars ($7.50 per knife. Not $25 per knife like some ppl.
 
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thedemonbeast said:
I tried to view your post via Photobucket and even opened an account with it. But when I clicked on your link I did not see any pics at all of your knife. I have never used Photobucket so maybe I am not doing it correctly? But anyway, I saw nothing as far as pics of your alleged rusty BSK FB knife.

OK, I see them now! I agree...for what you paid, you should of received an Immaculate FB knife....and you didn't. If you paid through PayPal you can go through them and get your refund. I agree, you should send that knife back and get a full refund. But also, if you know someone and you took that FB knife and had it re-sand blasted, that would take the rust off of it and make it to look immaculate. I am fortunate enough that I know a guy within a few miles from me that does sand blasting/ bead blasting of knives and other things. And he only charges me a few dollars ($7.50 per knife. Not $25 per knife like some ppl.
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unfortunately I paid with two money orders but I have pictures of them and the numbers saved. I think your right I will have to find someone to bead blast it which will cost more money out of my pocket but for good reason im not going to send a knife back to a guy for repairs who kept the knife 8 times to long lied to me over and over then sent me that
 
thedemonbeast said:
I tried to view your post via Photobucket and even opened an account with it. But when I clicked on your link I did not see any pics at all of your knife. I have never used Photobucket so maybe I am not doing it correctly? But anyway, I saw nothing as far as pics of your alleged rusty BSK FB knife.

OK, I see them now! I agree...for what you paid, you should of received an Immaculate FB knife....and you didn't. If you paid through PayPal you can go through them and get your refund. I agree, you should send that knife back and get a full refund. But also, if you know someone and you took that FB knife and had it re-sand blasted, that would take the rust off of it and make it to look immaculate. I am fortunate enough that I know a guy within a few miles from me that does sand blasting/ bead blasting of knives and other things. And he only charges me a few dollars ($7.50 per knife. Not $25 per knife like some ppl.
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I wish I knew someone like that it probably will cost me atleast a hundred
 
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