We want Calypso Juniors!!!!

Why D2? I find that VG-10 and S30V get sharper easier and stay sharper longer (though my only D2 blade is a Benchmade 806D2, so maybe Spyderco D2 would be better). Also, I think that S30V wasn't mentioned because these will likely be made in Seki.
 
Originally posted by Sal Glesser
If we made a short plain edge run, Would you prefer VG-10 or D-2?
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I don't have much trouble with rust, so D2 all the way, as far as I'm concerned.

I'd really like to hear what hardness Spyderco will run it, and just how much better edgeholding, toughness, etc, it has shown in your testing with the HT that will be used on the production knives-just so we can have a clear view of what to expect compared to VG-10...some details would be :cool:

Either steel will be fine for a knife of this type. I just hope you make them, and no pastels for the FRN, please:p
 
Base the steel choice on your opinion of relative performance.

This knife'll be pitched at knowledgeable knife users, right? So stain resistance might not be such a high priority as it'd be on a mass-market knife. If you think D2 offers a performance advantage over VG-10, it seems like this'd be the perfect opportunity to try it out.

I think the creative decisions on this project should keep the expected market in mind. In my (limited) experience, "knife people" appreciate both the practical advantages _and_ the "bragging rights" that come with "tool steels" and "anything-but-black" handles. I'd go with D2 and blue FRN (of course, I might sing a completely different tune if I didn't like either of the above :D )

[I also think there'd be a market for a short run of black Micarta handled Calypso Jr's, but that might be pushing too high an MSRP, too low a profit margin, and too many Calypso-related sprint runs in a short period ;)
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And while I'm dreaming, why don't we just throw in a sprint run of _large_ Calypsos, for luck :D ]
 
My interest in VG-10 and S30V has primarily to do with the fact that I live in a coastal environment. Very, very humid, very wet, you can watch corrosion like you watch the grass grow. I have D2 steel knives (mostly fixed blades) but everything requires great care. With all the nooks and crannies in a folder, I'm hesistant about D2. On the other hand, it's such a great design I'd likely get it no matter what steel. :D
 
OK heres a thought.Half this year is gone,if production was started now it would probably be next year before they were ready.So why not do a 1200 peice run with 300 #ed for this forum and 300 #ed for the Spyderco .com forum for the 2004 forum model.This would leave 600 to sell to dealers.This way 3 birds are killed with one Calypso and the forum model for next year would be shipping about the time income tax refunds come in.
 
D2 would be a good bet to reel in the knife knut. It's a novel steel, not available on too many production folders, and has been given high marks for performance. IMHO, a sprint run in D2 would generate slightly more interest, because you have the intersection of a good design and a novel steel. Some will buy for the design, some more will buy (this specific model as opposed to other spydercos or another brand) because it's a spyderco in D2.

Personally, I think I'd rather have it in whatever steel Spyderco believes works best, and I'm sure most others on the forum would agree. However, a forum announcement wouldn't reach every person who would be in the market for this knife.
 
D2 also holds an edge longer than VG-10 I believe. How bout a BLACK coated D2 version to protect against corrosion ??
 
Noooooooo :eek:
No Black coated Calypso Jnrs please :eek: I always feel like I've joined the mall ninja brigade whenever I handle a black coated blade.

I'd much rather spend a bit more time and efort and keep it corrosion free myself.
 
The thought of a Black Micarta handled Calypso Jr. with a D-2 blade @ 60Rc is giving me a big woody!
 
I agree 100% with you buddy. Black coated blades have made me stop from buying a few knives. I can't stand them!! Please no black blades...:barf: :mad: :barf:
-Kevin
 
I agree with this. Black blades are so ugly after a few scratches... And they will scratch eventually, that's for sure (unless if you keep the knife secured in the showcase) ;)
 
Although having only one black bladed knife a Microtech Socom, it sure never made me feel like a ( mall ninja ) b4, seems when Spyderco puts out black bladed knives the public grabs them up quickly since they are put out in limited numbers and are usually hard to come by pretty soon after. But I too am fond of uncoated blades myself it was just a thought for people that might live around a salt water environment thinking about a rusting problem.
 
Simply oil the blade once or twice a week, or every night if you use it heavily. This should keep rust off. Also if you don't live by salt water you should be able to oil less frequently.
-Kevin
 
And while I'm dreaming, why don't we just throw in a sprint run of _large_ Calypsos, for luck ]
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Oh baby...I just bought a large micarta Calypso last week and it is my new favorite. That would be too sweet to even imagine. As it is, I would like blue FRN on the Calypso Jr. I just got the new Rescue, and that color looks great. I like VG-10, but have no experience with D-2, so somebody else will have to make that call.
 
I love my Calypso Jr. in VG-10, I'd be interested in another (or a large Calypso) if they become available. VG-10 suits me, but so would D2, I'm pretty easy to please up in this range of steels. Grey, tan or black handle in Micarta.

A new name? I like Phoenix, because this discontinued knife keeps trying to rise from the ashes. If that's taken, Shrike. esp. if you issue it in grey, since 'butcher birds' are grey & black.
 
How about:

Dove
- bird theme, already mentioned, including non-violent connotation, simple yet mysterious, promising.

Inspiration
- the design is inspired, and surely a perfectly designed tool can inspire creativity in the user. This is what I love about knives, particularly the simple designs, the nature of a simple design is to remove the limitations that would be imposed by excessive features, to do away with everything that isn't 'knife' or 'function'. The idea of removing everything superflous leads me to:

Tao (or Zen) (my favourite!!)
- the utility of a cup lies in its emptiness. It is what is NOT there that makes it useful, rather like the hole. A blade is made by removing all of the metal which gets in the way of the function, cutting. To my mind the Calypso is a defining example of this principle. It even looks like a flattened out yin-yang (tao) with the black and silver, and the hole and moulded medallion and its behaviour is this way, too. Open and closed, sharp and safe, working and resting. Even violent and non-violent, depending on one's intent.

Lao tzu is viewed my many as the father of Taoism, although is not clear that 'he' was even an individual, the name however means:

Teacher
- speaks for itself. To me a teacher is someone or something which helps you to overcome your limitations.

Disciple (my 2nd favourite...but I think I've heard it before)
- this has great meaning. It can apply to novice and expert alike, as opposed to Adept, but with all of its positive connotations. It allows you to aim the knife toward a different market- imagine a Calypso Jr in FRN and AUS6 in a clam pack with a 'how to' on safe, effective use and maintenance of the knife. A booklet of this type would really add value to a novice user and you could offer free pamphlets (paper or online) for different activities, possibly including self defence. Aim it at Scouts and Cadets, the student traveller market and other people who, if they understood the value of a good quality, fairly priced knife, would probably buy one. What a way to keep a great knife alive?

Illustrious
- because it is.

Beauty
- is only the promise of happiness. Which is what I will feel when I get my new Calypso Jrs

Rose
- beauty with a thorn, and what's in a name? Would not a...?

I like 'Phoenix' very much. It's inspirational and fitting.

I especially like 'Adept' as it has connotations with philosophy and spirituality, as well as physical and mental skill, and hopefully descirbes the user and knife, as intended. I think it might also attract a chunk of the wannabe crowd.

The beauty of this knife is not in its colour or steel but in its design. Having said that a higher end steel for this run would suit me better, whether VG10, D2 or S30V. Not fussy...better that it happens.
 
Seems like many like the name PHOENIX. If the name has already been used, or if some originality is needed just change some letters:
PHEENix
PHinix
Foenix
...
-A
 
I've been trying to avoid reading this thread thinking that it would be futile to wishfully think the Calypso Jr. would be resurrected. I guess never say, "Never."

My preference for blade steel is VG-10 a proven, high performance, low maintenance material.

Suggested name: "Delta"
1. It somewhat describes the triangular shape of
the blade (the triangle is a structurally sound
design) and

2. It suggests a link to Delta Force
operations. (For those who need their daily dose
of testosterone) ;)
 
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