What is one characteristic or spec from a manufacturer that disqualifies them for you

ThePeacent said:
All metal scales/handles
Flippers with no other opening system
Most linerlocks
Framelocks
Weight, 95% of the blades out there are too heavy, to me 1" blade length = 1.2 oz. weight increase max
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Oh, do you need your blades to be extra light so that you can zip-tie more nuts and bolts to them? :rolleyes:
 
Besides bead blasted blades........I don't do owners/designers that are full of hype and BS. Lynn Thompson, Spencer Frazier, Ernie Emerson. 😣
 
Spey said:
With all due to respect Google is your friend. Search P'kal

Will start you here with some very basics:
https://youtu.be/6Sk7B-XXCJY

Application, training & techniques of this philosophy run deep.

Spyderco recently released the Reverse, a fixed blade version that provides one knife that can be configured by owner to be conventional or reverse.

Regards,
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Oh, so it really is a blunted Spyderco knife, for learning to knife fight with your Spyderco. With holes drilled in a blade that's all of 2" to make it the "right weight and balance."

Right.

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I don't like metal scales on both sides. I can deal with one side, if I like the rest of the knife enough, and one side is G10 or something similar. I don't mind flippers, but I prefer unassisted.

22-rimfire said:
I generally do not like flippers or titanium handles, even on one side. That eliminates a lot of the higher end folder for me.
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Mecha said:
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Oh, so it really is a blunted Spyderco knife, for learning to knife fight with your Spyderco. With holes drilled in a blade that's all of 2" to make it the "right weight and balance."

Right.

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I always assumed they did that so it would unmistakeable as one of their training knives. I know they only use red handles on the trainers for that same reason.
 
Combo PE/SE blades seem like the "worst of both worlds" to me...

The serrations always hang at the wrong time when I'm starting a slice-- totally not zen.

The few paltry serrations on combo blades are NEVER enough to really crank a good rip through what they're meant for.

Plus, they look schizo and stupid.

Better to carry a dedicated PE and pony up for a full SE Spyderco Pacific Salt. They're almost negligible in weight and size.
 
Skulls, snake pattern, anything that takes a simple tool and makes it look like a prop that should be hanging on the wall of a Hell's Angels club.
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this ^^^^^^

Do you all remember the old hand gesture that isn't used any more where one sails their hand over their head repeatedly . . . kind of like "that was over my head" . . . "went by too fast to understand that" . . . "beyond me" . . .

yah that's the whole skull thing for me. I see them every where, very much on peoples skin, clothing, cars . . . knives.

I'm sailing my hand over my head repeatedly. SMHOMHR
 
Heavy knives and gym shorts don't mix
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It's not that I don't agree, I do agree, but every time I read the reference to the gym shorts and no heavy knives I keep picturing some guy in gym shorts strutting down the board walk wearing some kind of shoulder holster with a Medford in it.
 
I dislike a lot of knife things.
Stainless blades, coated blades, thick blades, long blades, serrated blades, metal handles, lock backs, thumb studs, wire clips, belly humps,... but occasionally make exceptions.
 
Mecha said:
Oh, so it really is a blunted Spyderco knife, for learning to knife fight with your Spyderco. With holes drilled in a blade that's all of 2" to make it the "right weight and balance."

Right.
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The blade is 2.95 inches.

Since the live version is sold as a MBC blade, not making a trainer would be silly.
A trainer version of more knives would be a good thing. :)

The trainer versions are also good for kids learning to operate various locks without cutting themselves.

So, they are handy for a few different things.
Price is high though, because the materials used in the handles is the same, it is pretty much as manufacturing intensive, AND uses the same lock as the live version.
Expecting it to be much cheaper would not be logical.
 
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trevitrace said:
I always assumed they did that so it would unmistakeable as one of their training knives. I know they only use red handles on the trainers for that same reason.
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The holes also are to keep people from sharpening the blade.
The trainer balisongs are generally that way also.
 
stabman said:
The blade is 2.95 inches.

Since the live version is sold as a MBC blade, not making a trainer would be silly.
A trainer version of more knives would be a good thing. :)

The trainer versions are also good for kids learning to operate various locks without cutting themselves.

So, they are handy for a few different things.
Price is high though, because the materials used in the handles is the same, it is pretty much as manufacturing intensive, AND uses the same lock as the live version.
Expecting it to be much cheaper would not be logical.
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I don't expect it to be cheaper, I just question its very existence. :D
 
If I had to pick one thing, it would be the number of bevels/grinds that a blade has. 1 or 2 including the edge is ideal, 3 is acceptable. Every time I see a 4 or 5-layered saber to-flat to- saber to- primary edge to-microbevel to- ultra microbevel my brain just screams WHY??!!
 
Mecha said:
I don't expect it to be cheaper, I just question its very existence. :D
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If it is to be carried as a defensive knife (whole other can of worms...), not being able to actually train with it against a partner, on the heavy bag and focus mitts is dumb.
At that point, it is a "feel good talisman" for those buying it with the express purpose of carrying it for defense.

Now since I carry for utility as the main thing, I don't worry overly that trainer versions are not available for most knives out there.

But doing the "folder into the fight" drill with my trainer Griptilian and Endura was a great dose of reality, and showed how many people are deluding themselves with their idea of how things work under stress.

I often take my Trainer Griptilian to the gym to work on the bag with...of course, I also bring a 10 ounce sap for the same thing, so some may question my ideas as to what constitutes normal. ;)
Last time at the gym though, the guy working his boxing on the other bag thought the sap was quite neat, and didn't have any issues with it. :)
 
The updated list. ;)

So, they can't be:
-Big
-Small
-Serrated
-CRKT
-Boker
-Hinderer
-Strider
-Made in China or Pakistan
-Benchmade
-Spyderco
-Coated blades
-Tip up clips
-Ganzo
-Mantis
-Expensive
-Hollow grind
-Buck
-Zero Tolerance
-Cold Steel
-Thick blades or handles
-Great Eastern Cutlery
-Thumb studs
-Waved
-Frame-lock
-Recurved blade
-Liner lock
-Lock-back
-Flippers
-Bearings
-Stainless steel
-Bead-blasted blades
-Two-hand opening
-Skulls
-Fixed blades made in Sweden
 
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I have 3.

-Partiality serrated blades.
-Recurves on anything smaller that a dedicated large chopper.
-Any handle that appears to have been designed by someone who has apparently never actually held something in their hand.
 
stabman said:
If it is to be carried as a defensive knife (whole other can of worms...), not being able to actually train with it against a partner, on the heavy bag and focus mitts is dumb.
At that point, it is a "feel good talisman" for those buying it with the express purpose of carrying it for defense.

Now since I carry for utility as the main thing, I don't worry overly that trainer versions are not available for most knives out there.

But doing the "folder into the fight" drill with my trainer Griptilian and Endura was a great dose of reality, and showed how many people are deluding themselves with their idea of how things work under stress.

I often take my Trainer Griptilian to the gym to work on the bag with...of course, I also bring a 10 ounce sap for the same thing, so some may question my ideas as to what constitutes normal. ;)
Last time at the gym though, the guy working his boxing on the other bag thought the sap was quite neat, and didn't have any issues with it. :)
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A 10-ounce sap, now we're talkin'! :thumbup:
 
Mecha said:
A 10-ounce sap, now we're talkin'! :thumbup:
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I have a few 16 ounce ones, but they're too nice to wail on the bag at the gym with.
I'll use them on focus mitts, but with the cheap 10 ounce one, I don't mind if it gets beat up.
In fact, I'm trying to see what it takes to wear it out! So far, it's proving to be surprisingly tough.
 
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