What "Traditional Knife" are ya totin' today?

[afishhunter]

If I carry a handgun for self defense, and get it out if someone attacks me, doesn't my assailant also have the right to defend herself or himself as soon as I pull my gun? Or is it a case of, "Mom, HE started it!" (That "excuse" never went over well with my parents if I or any of my siblings tried it.)

The rules may vary, but generally you can legally draw a firearm and use deadly force only when you are subject to/afraid of serious injury or death.
MOST (but not all) jurisdictions also allow the use of deadly force to protect others. (a LEO who was disarmed by the suspect (it does happen. more than one LEO has been saved by an armed civilian), or a woman or minor about to be raped ... or worse, for example.

The "bad guy" who is threatening with a knife or gun cannot claim "self defense" after he has started threatening you with serious bodily harm or death.
Once the threat is over; either the "bad guy" has been incapacitated and is no longer a threat, OR s/he makes an honest effort to leave, (without firing shots) the threat is over, and you can no longer use lethal force. E.G.: You cannot shoot at him/her while s/he is runniing away; provided they are not still shooting at you.

Disclaimer:
Check your state and local laws for the rules and regulations as they apply to you. The rules and requlations can and do vary by state.
Speak to an attorney if you have questions.

Even if you reside in one of the "Constitutional Carry" states, it would not hurt to get the CCW permit (even though it is not required). The classes cover the relevent laws.
Also, most states have agreements with other states regarding recognizing each other's CCW's.
Being from a Constitutional Carry state does not give you the right to carry while visiting any other state.
Even in the Constitutional Carry states, that right may apply only to Residents. Non residents may be restricted on where they can carry - only outside of cities/towns, for example.

I reside in Idaho. One of the Constitutional Carry states. I don't need a CCW to carry conceiled (or open) in Idaho.
However, if I cross the Idaho border going West, East, or South I would need a standard (no classes, issued upon request) or "super" (classes and qualification (I think it is 200 shots?) using the handgun the person is intending to carry) Idaho CCW to carry while visiting or traveling through that state.
(North is Canada. They don't allow non-Canadians (and very few Canadians, for that matter) to possess a handgun. The Exception might be active military personel on a military base while on duty, IF their MOS required them to have one, and some Federal Law Enforcement Officers?)

 

[redsparrow]

Here’s the answer .
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Viper and Grinling...

Beautiful pair, great photo!

 

[Johnnythefox]

It's a thrill to see that Arthurian legend again, John!


That 2-blade Catt teardrop is outstanding (as are your nature photos)!!


If I carry a handgun for self defense, and get it out if someone attacks me, doesn't my assailant also have the right to defend herself or himself as soon as I pull my gun? Or is it a case of, "Mom, HE started it!" (That "excuse" never went over well with my parents if I or any of my siblings tried it.)


Cherish the Churchill!


When my daughter was a kid and we'd watch Star Trek (of whatever vintage) together on TV, she'd always warn me, "Oh-oh, Dad, this looks like one of those time travel episodes that you think are so stupid!"


Nice Ankermesser, ED!
I've become a big fan of knives with a hefty sheepsfoot blade and a substantial wood handle:
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Splendid pair, Steve!


I have several Peanuts, but I have a yellow pen knife just like yours, Bart, that I'd prefer to carry over any of my Peanuts.


Maybe I'm weird, but for Case tang stamps, I always count the missing symbols (can you actually count what's missing? ) and add that to the "decade starter". So on a Case with 2 dots showing, I think "8 dots missing, 1970+8 = 1978." Or maybe that's exactly what you said, Mike, and I don't realize it.


Love the Schrades on parade, Jeff!


Didn't a lot of American knife companies make knives for the military during WWII that were only marked with USA?


I'm a big fan of shields that are recognizable "real world objects"!
(But I like abstract geometrical shields, too.)


Creative name!


Superb vintage Case!


I've enjoyed seeing your pair of old Imperials lately!


Awesome knife, and first-rate photos!
What's the "official name" of the black water fowl?





Keep helping your guys make memories, Taylor!


Thanks for the info, Todd. Your reasoning is basically what made me take up weekly carries way back when, and eventually go to a schedule that now lasts me more than a year at a time.

I have a million "great ideas" but a lot less than a million dollars from suggesting and/or implementing them.


Exemplary ettrick, Bart!

- GT

Sorry I dont know,I just call him Bob...

 

[sf fanatic]

The rules may vary, but generally you can legally draw a firearm and use deadly force only when you are subject to/afraid of serious injury or death.
MOST (but not all) jurisdictions also allow the use of deadly force to protect others. (a LEO who was disarmed by the suspect (it does happen. more than one LEO has been saved by an armed civilian), or a woman or minor about to be raped ... or worse, for example.

The "bad guy" who is threatening with a knife or gun cannot claim "self defense" after he has started threatening you with serious bodily harm or death.
Once the threat is over; either the "bad guy" has been incapacitated and is no longer a threat, OR s/he makes an honest effort to leave, (without firing shots) the threat is over, and you can no longer use lethal force. E.G.: You cannot shoot at him/her while s/he is runniing away; provided they are not still shooting at you.

Disclaimer:
Check your state and local laws for the rules and regulations as they apply to you. The rules and requlations can and do vary by state.
Speak to an attorney if you have questions.

Even if you reside in one of the "Constitutional Carry" states, it would not hurt to get the CCW permit (even though it is not required). The classes cover the relevent laws.
Also, most states have agreements with other states regarding recognizing each other's CCW's.
Being from a Constitutional Carry state does not give you the right to carry while visiting any other state.
Even in the Constitutional Carry states, that right may apply only to Residents. Non residents may be restricted on where they can carry - only outside of cities/towns, for example.

I reside in Idaho. One of the Constitutional Carry states. I don't need a CCW to carry conceiled (or open) in Idaho.
However, if I cross the Idaho border going West, East, or South I would need a standard (no classes, issued upon request) or "super" (classes and qualification (I think it is 200 shots?) using the handgun the person is intending to carry) Idaho CCW to carry while visiting or traveling through that state.
(North is Canada. They don't allow non-Canadians (and very few Canadians, for that matter) to possess a handgun. The Exception might be active military personel on a military base while on duty, IF their MOS required them to have one, and some Federal Law Enforcement Officers?)

Self defense is another way of saying…hope you have a good lawyer because you’re going to need one.

 

[Boattale]

These two for me today. Have a great day everyone. View attachment 2382581

That Barlow is something else. Wowza.

 

[Rufus1949]

Cool bone on that one Bob.

Thanks Todd.

 

[screened porch]

Didn't a lot of American knife companies make knives for the military during WWII that were only marked with USA?

I don't know.
Some of the unmarked knives I'm thinking of weren't very military looking.

 

[Jakeywax31]

Very nice trifecta Paul.

Thanks, Bob. Another sweet K'roo from your fine collection today my friend.

Nice trio !

Thank you, Steve. A nice pair yourself. That Voos looks brand new !!!!

The first step is to admit you have a problem so…

As we discussed during the Case barlow fiasco of 2023. You play a huge part in my knife addiction.

 

[mbkr]

Maybe I'm weird, but for Case tang stamps, I always count the missing symbols (can you actually count what's missing? ) and add that to the "decade starter". So on a Case with 2 dots showing, I think "8 dots missing, 1970+8 = 1978." Or maybe that's exactly what you said, Mike, and I don't realize it.


- GT

Yes, that's exactly what I said, except different

1980-2 dots =1978

You say potahto and I say potayto...

 

[Jakeywax31]

5K Qs I have an example stamped USA but only recently found out it represents United States Army and not United States of America.

Interesting time period for knives in America. I think they were just churning those suckers out as fast as possible.

 

[ebrandwein]

https://imgur.com/a/f7spMOa

 

[Modoc ED]

My brain is tired. We're going to town for an appointment with the Optometrist for Cindy and lunch at the local Chinese choke and puke restaurant. Been sitting at my desk trying to decide which of the following knives I'll carry.

Well used, worn, scratched up Case CV 6231 1/2 1 Dot 1979 Delrin Capped Jack


Pristine, never carried, never sharpened, never used, Case 6231 1/2 6 Dot 1974 Red Bone Capped Jack


Decisions, decisions - enough to tire my brain out.

 

[afishhunter]

Self defense is another way of saying…hope you have a good lawyer because you’re going to need one.

Could be.
Depends on the circumstaces, and what you used. I imagine if you used a knife, and "win" the battle, you will probably need a good attorney for both the criminal AND any civil trial the guy brings against you (providing s/he survived the injuries) for injuries, or their next of kin (s/he didn't survive the injuries) brings against you for "wrongful death".
If you use a firearm, and don't panic after (dispose of the firearm, not call the police, etc) you may not need one.

I didn't. There was enough evidence at the scene (holes in the windows, caused by his gun*, one of his rounds only made it through the outer pane (double pane windows) leaving his bullet between the glass, a few potato chip bags with bullet holes in them ... and enough witnesses, to prove I acted in self defense.
*He used a chrome plated Locern .380 (I had one just like it at home. Only difference was the serial number.)
I had a .45 ACP "1911 type" LLama on me that day. It was obvious who fired what, and from where.
All his shots were fired from outside. All mine from inside, at the walk-up window. (I took that position so he could not come back to it.)

Someone tried to rob the store at knife point a week before.
After I broke away from him and drew, he decided he "didn't want to play anymore", and left when I aked him to. (leaving his parng knife for the police ... there MIGHT have been fnger prints on it...) No shots were fired.
I locked the doors after that. The ONLY people who were allowed inside the store after that was the "boss" (we both owned 50% of the company stock) and the vendors.
All customers had to use the walk-up window.
The "5 finger discount" problem vanished at that time, too!!!


I do wish he had survived his injury, and was able to spend 15 to 30 (more? he had a rather extensive rap sheet ... "rap book" might be a better description.) in jail.

 

[JW225]

Bill Ruple Trapper Tuesday...

 

[315]

Took a morning off and did some sight seeing

 

[r8shell]

Random Tuesday carry:

 

[sunknife]

Cool pair greg but not nearly as cool as the archery photo. The chances of my wife taking up archery are less than zero. Maybe a -99.99999% chance. Very cool.

Thanks, Paul. My wife only gets out her bow a couple times a year to shoot and that's when we're attending a archery rendezvous/campout. She's very supportive and patient with it being my obsession though.

Your Kentucky friend sounds like a helluva craftsman, Greg.
And you’ve been blessed with a pretty cool girl.
Nice photos.

Thanks, Jeff. Yep, my buddy Bill from KY is a experienced outdoorsman, craftsman and all around great guy. I'll try and send you a link to an episode of KY outdoors that features him discussing self bows, I think you would enjoy it.
Your right I am blessed with a super cool girl, she's a way above my league to be honest.

I'm always really impressed with your handmade bows and arrows! May I hit you up for advice on making staves someday, in exchange for pick of the litter? A few of my parent's Osage Oranges are looking pretty sick, and I've been gunning for that lumber for years.

Thanks, my friend. I'm equally impressed with your knife collection, the fixed blades and the folders are all right in my wheelhouse. You have excellent taste.
I'd absolutely be willing to offer you any advice I can on stave prep and/or bow making. I'll PM you and give you my text and phone number as that would be a better way for us to communicate.


I've been away for about 7 days and I'm hopelessly behind on this thread. Leaving again tomorrow and it may be December before I get caught up.
I went camping and deer hunting for 6 days and took a handful of knives along but mostly used this LT Wright fixed blade and GEC 86 big jack for cooking and chores around camp.
One of my brothers joined me for two of those days and it was a very relaxing camp. I did do a lot of walking up and down ridges which actually was good exercise and energized me.
Since getting back home two days ago I've been carrying the GEC 72LB and a Case split back whittler. Everyone have a good week, may be awhile until I'm back from my next adventure.
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[RLB0414]

Took a morning off and did some sight seeing


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I enjoy Rushmore but was frustrated in 2020 with it all. The Mississippi State had been removed because someone was butt hurt about how it looked. It is history.
Your hunting photos are sight seeing photos to me

 

[Jakeywax31]

Thanks, Paul. My wife only gets out her bow a couple times a year to shoot and that's when we're attending a archery rendezvous/campout. She's very supportive and patient with it being my obsession though.

Thanks, Jeff. Yep, my buddy Bill from KY is a experienced outdoorsman, craftsman and all around great guy. I'll try and send you a link to an episode of KY outdoors that features him discussing self bows, I think you would enjoy it.
Your right I am blessed with a super cool girl, she's a way above my league to be honest.

Thanks, my friend. I'm equally impressed with your knife collection, the fixed blades and the folders are all right in my wheelhouse. You have excellent taste.
I'd absolutely be willing to offer you any advice I can on stave prep and/or bow making. I'll PM you and give you my text and phone number as that would be a better way for us to communicate.


I've been away for about 7 days and I'm hopelessly behind on this thread. Leaving again tomorrow and it may be December before I get caught up.
I went camping and deer hunting for 6 days and took a handful of knives along but mostly used this LT Wright fixed blade and GEC 86 big jack for cooking and chores around camp.
One of my brothers joined me for two of those days and it was a very relaxing camp. I did do a lot of walking up and down ridges which actually was good exercise and energized me.
Since getting back home two days ago I've been carrying the GEC 72LB and a Case split back whittler. Everyone have a good week, may be awhile until I'm back from my next adventure.
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Excellent photos from a perfect vacation. I have recently acquired the L.T. Wright bug myself. First one is being delivered this week.

7 days!!!!! Reading the bible from start to finish might take less time than catching up . Have fun on your upcoming adventures, my friend.

 

[Jakeywax31]

My brain is tired. We're going to town for an appointment with the Optometrist for Cindy and lunch at the local Chinese choke and puke restaurant. Been sitting at my desk trying to decide which of the following knives I'll carry.

Well used, worn, scratched up Case CV 6231 1/2 1 Dot 1979 Delrin Capped Jack
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Pristine, never carried, never sharpened, never used, Case 6231 1/2 6 Dot 1974 Red Bone Capped Jack
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Decisions, decisions - enough to tire my brain out.

Red bone is amazing, Ed. What a treasure. Have a great day, my friend.