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Whats going on Spyderco?

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by BenchCo Spydermade, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. BenchCo Spydermade

    BenchCo Spydermade

    Feb 10, 2014
    Spyderco has always been one of my favorite companies. Have many of their knives, sharpmaker, etc. Lately it seems all the new and innovative knives they make are in such low supply they are gone the day they are released, have some huge production flaw, or both.

    Exposed edge on the tropen, after being a year late almost. Its still a great blade, but thats a big oversight.

    I wanted a smock, those are gone.

    I wanted an Ikuchi. Those are gone and have also apparently been pricking people when closed for those who got one.

    Should i even get excited for the native cheif? Will it be obtainable? Will it prick me?

    I get it, spyderco doesnt owe me any knives, but these are production knives and not even sprint runs. Why not make one new knife that will be available when you say and in stock more than one day? I thought spyderco was about quality, innovation and consistency. Lately they have been disappointing the heck out of me.
  2. MolokaiRider

    MolokaiRider Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 13, 2017
    I’ve always considered Spyderco to be chance takers. They make top notch knives that in some cases knock it out of the park. Sometimes...you gotta swing away to hit the homerun. Spyderco ain’t afraid to swing hard.

    That means there’s gonna be a miss or two. But when they connect...watch out!
  3. BladeScout

    BladeScout Basic Member Basic Member

    May 16, 2010
    If not being able to chase down (yet another) knife is the biggest problem you have .... :rolleyes:

    Spyderco makes innovative knives, of which many are popular and sells fast. In that sense, the company is a 'victim' of its own success but that you are not fast enough out of the starting blocks ordering a certain Spyderco model is not something you can blame the company for.

    Names one model. Prone to wild exaggeration much?

    Caveat; Spyderco have on occasion misjudged the market and there have been manufacturing glitches.Nobody is perfect. Compare the occasional stumble to the innovative knives and that Spyderco practically re-invented the folder and continue to bring high quality knives to the market.

    First world problems. Groan....
  4. BenchCo Spydermade

    BenchCo Spydermade

    Feb 10, 2014
    Yup, my rant on the knife forum is a first world problem. I want all the knives. Just how I feel.
  5. marcinek


    Jan 9, 2007
    Seems like Spyderco making knives that sell so fast that you cannot get your hands on them is not their problem, but yours.
  6. Cscotttsss

    Cscotttsss Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 3, 2015
    Native Chief is readily available, just have to poke around.

    I don't agree with any of your QC statements but yes, it seems like demand for some popular models is high. I slept on the CQI Spydiechef, Kapara and a few others I had my eye on. Now they're gone, but really that's my own fault. It's fine, I have plenty of Spydercos to carry and keep me satisfied until they come back in stock. I could complain but it does no good. The anticipation is part of the fun.
  7. 91bravo

    91bravo Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 29, 2008
    1st world problems. :rolleyes:

    Nobody thinking about the hungry ducks in Hungary?
  8. SeppukuSamurai


    Aug 19, 2014
    A lot of competition these days, man.

    I notice a lot of these manufacturers are spinning those wheels a mile a minute in hope of staying ahead. It's not easy running manufacturing plants all over the world that create dozens of different models. Spyderco isn't a small shop, tens of thousands of knives, if not more.

    I think that Sal's son is taking things in a good direction. I've watched a few interviews and he seems to really care about correcting previous mistakes.

    Me personally, I've held two of the best Spydercos I've ever held in my life at Blade and they were both this year's models. The Paysan was soooooo choice. I could gush, lol.

    Spyderco will always be one of my favorite makers. Is there really another company out there as steeped in tradition and influence that's still actively breaking new ground left and right? Way to go, Spyderco.

    @Sal Glesser, you're a legend. Sorry I didnt get to introduce myself at Blade, understandably, you were busy ;)
  9. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    I guess I don't have this problem. I don't go after the latest and greatest hotness. I can be patient and wait, especially since I usually buy on the secondary market at a steep discount.

    We also must consider production capacity. Spyderco logistically can't even make everything they want, much less everything you want. Remember years ago when they couldn't pump out standard pm2s fast enough and they weren't in stock anywhere for months on end?

    As for production flaws, that is why spyderco has the best CQI in the industry. If there truly are problems they will get fixed.
  10. Cscotttsss

    Cscotttsss Basic Member Basic Member

    Mar 3, 2015
    What was the other model besides the Paysan?
  11. 22-rimfire

    22-rimfire Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 20, 2005
    I also don't have this problem with Spydercos. I used to try to pick up some of the GEC made knives that I wanted immediately. After a couple misses, I stopped trying. This urge has passed and I refuse to make the kind of effort. I own too many knives already to care about it to be honest. So I buy another one.... probably will just sit unused anyway.
  12. SeppukuSamurai


    Aug 19, 2014
    Now I'm going to sound foolish.

    I believe it was a drunken, I got to hold it at their booth and there was a lot of choas....I went for the Paysan. Regardless, both were amazing knives. Stellar action and all around function. Was really nice to feel motivated to spend some money with Spyderco again (I usually buy higher dollar stuff.)
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  13. jstn

    jstn Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 27, 2012
    Spot on. I like that they try out new, funky designs. Some are amazing, some ho-hum, but it is nice to have a ton of options and variety, unlike many other companies. I would say I carry a Spyderco 95% of the time.
  14. GatorFlash1

    GatorFlash1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 28, 2012
    If you can't find a new one, not available, take a look at some of the older models on the for sale forum link. There are a bunch of older Spydercos that I would like to buy that are new-in-the-box.
  15. Hackenslash

    Hackenslash Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    I love Spyderco for the chances that they take. Sometimes they stumble but I think they have the most reactive CQI program in the business. The Advocate is a great example of their CQI in action.

    To most other companies "CQI" means Cash Quick Income.
    mdrgn79 and craytab like this.
  16. LEGION 12

    LEGION 12 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 8, 2009
  17. Ajack60

    Ajack60 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Apr 21, 2013
    What I've learned is that when demand is greater than supply, someone is always going to be left out. Spyderco isn't the only company with this favorable problem.
    Have you looked in the Traditional forum lately?????? https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...drops-etc-a-place-for-people-to-vent.1668783/
    When the demand isn't greater than the supply, then getting what you want is more attainable. Case in point, I've been able to purchase three Military sprint runs without any problems, however, the PM 2's sell very fast and the secondary market is the only way I can get one if I'm willing to pay the price.
    Personally, I'm glad Spyderco runs their business like they do. You know, make a limited supply of a new model, see what the demand will be and ramp up production based on demand. If demand is not there, go to the next project. I'm thinking it keeps them profitable so they can continue to offer innovative knives.
    BTW, the Native chief is a great knife and not hard to obtain.
    Pharmagator, TenShun705 and 91bravo like this.
  18. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Honestly there likely have always been flaws in Spydercos and anybody else’s lineup of knives.

    I was pretty unimpressed by the Tropen particularly though; that has been done to death though.
    The geese in Hungary get all the food.

    Spyderco made the Tropen with the exposed blade gaff. Now that I have handled one myself I cannot see how the exposed blade is not an issue.

    The Ikuchi pricking people when closed is definitely a thing I have heard complained about too but I haven’t seen one in person so I can’t really say anything. The Paysan I have handled 3 of all of which had such weak detents that it was bordering on a real flaw.

    I think any company has some poor design choices in its portfolio of knives. Spyderco just puts out ALOT of models so they roll the dice more often and eventually individual knife designs will be released with flaws in design.

    In a way its kind of better to know and just avoid certain models than a company with QC issues where any knife has a high likelihood of being F’ed up.
  19. ScooterG

    ScooterG You mean Ireland? Yeah, it’s mine. Gold Member

    Mar 15, 2016
    Spyderco is going to have some misses. Remember the Lum Tanto fun? How about the T—Mag (ugh). Some even thought the Tuff was terrible :eek:

    But...looking at 2019

    Para3 LW - huge win
    Native Chief - huge win
    Smock - huge win
    Native Salt - huge win
    Endela - we didn’t even know we needed it
    Drunken - win for those that want to spend
    Figuring out Maxamet - huge win
    97 different blade steels (or something like that) - huge win
    Moar whancliffe - huge win
    Police & Sage LW - not out yet, but come on...
    Z-Cut - we’ll see, but hard to mess up a kitchen knife!
  20. Comeuppance

    Comeuppance Fixed Blade EDC Emisssary Gold Member

    Jan 12, 2013
    Spyderco has been making ridiculous and experimental knives the entire time I’ve been aware of their existence. The difference is that, presently, most of their gambles are paying off and selling well. Given some of the flops they have had in the past, I can hardly blame them for having small initial runs.

    As for QC, I’ve not experienced a problem personally and cannot really make a valuable broad judgement of the company based on the few nearly useless self-selected samples of stated issues on forums that are specific to individual models, sometimes even just specific runs of models.

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