Whats going on Spyderco?

BenchCo Spydermade said:
BladeScout BladeScout
And since you asked what are the blatant production flaws, Ill repeat, exposed blade on the tropen and the Ikuchi stabbing folks when closed. If you find calling those production flaws a problem, you may be a bit biased and defensive. But continue with your case prosecutor :)
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Okay, since you tagged me.
I didnt ask but as for your following statement I could not agree more:
BenchCo Spydermade said:
If you find calling those production flaws a problem, you may be a bit biased and defensive.
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Your post doesnt make a lick of sense. This comes as no surprise.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
BladeScout BladeScout
And since you asked what are the blatant production flaws, Ill repeat, exposed blade on the tropen and the Ikuchi stabbing folks when closed. If you find calling those production flaws a problem, you may be a bit biased and defensive. But continue with your case prosecutor :)
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I don't think those are production flaws. They are arguably design flaws, but I know on the Tropen, Spyderco considered what many have complained about with the exposed blade in the compression lock cutout and decided they did not believe it was a serious safety issue. Now, you can disagree with that assessment, but the fact remains that it's not a production flaw, it was a deliberate decision to produce the design that way.
 
That exposed blade on the tropen is 100% by design*

Whether or not it's a flaw IDK never carried a blade like that before. I'd be worried if i had a lot of fat on my fingers tho lol
 
madcap_magician said:
I don't think those are production flaws. They are arguably design flaws, but I know on the Tropen, Spyderco considered what many have complained about with the exposed blade in the compression lock cutout and decided they did not believe it was a serious safety issue. Now, you can disagree with that assessment, but the fact remains that it's not a production flaw, it was a deliberate decision to produce the design that way.
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I dont think the exposed edge is a big deal, i love my tropen. But i do consider the exposed edge a flaw. Design flaw is better semantics.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
Why not make one new knife that will be available
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I'm NOT saying it's done on purpose , but having more demand than supply works to drive prices as high as possible .

There is also the tendency for consumers to grab a product immediately , if they perceive that may be the only chance .
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
BladeScout BladeScout
And since you asked what are the blatant production flaws, Ill repeat, exposed blade on the tropen and the Ikuchi stabbing folks when closed. If you find calling those production flaws a problem, you may be a bit biased and defensive. But continue with your case prosecutor :)
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Lol, this stuff cracks me up.

Dont sweat it dude, don't even explain yourself.

Anybody that's hinting on banning you over expressing your opinion needs to reevaluate. You're entitled to feel whatever way you choose to feel. Regardless of whether or not that conforms with personal or popular opinion.

What in the world are they trying to insinuate? A guy named after the brand that has been around for years is what? Going rogue? Subverting an established and well loved brand via subliminals?

Get a grip. Or some tin foil. Whichever works.
 
marcinek said:
I agree. Don't buy from them. Problem solved.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

But as long as folks have to have knife X with the LE red screws now or they will so just die!! .... The flippers will be there to fill their needs.
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There have been a couple campaigns here to expose and shame the flippers.

When it seems what we need to do is expose ourselves.

Wait. That doesn't sound right.

You know what I mean.
 
marcinek said:
I agree. Don't buy from them. Problem solved.

"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo

But as long as folks have to have knife X with the LE red screws now or they will so just die!! .... The flippers will be there to fill their needs.
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I'm in the minority for sure, but the flippers don't bother me. Markets settle themselves. The existence of a flipper just means the manufacturer either failed, or opted not to price their product as high as the market would bare.

I'm not a collector though. I understand a collector's frustration, having to overpay for the next rarity or sprint when they miss the drop, but I don't think that frustration makes what flippers do inherently wrong.

I have a bunch of knives and I enjoy them, but if they're going to cost more than I feel they're worth I just move along. I'd love a Vrango and there's a guy who's listed one several times... for close to Spyderco's MSRP which is always absurd. So I still don't own a Vrango.

This supply issue nonsense is just that though. Would the OP rather have Spyderco sit on a model until a stock of many thousands could be built? That doesn't make much sense. The shipments come in waves and their availability echoes that.

I remember a time when the g10 Native 5 couldn't be found anywhere. Same for the s110v golden models. Now they're reliably in stock at every retailer. Eventually supply catches up. Just sit tight snowflake, you'll be alright.
 
Some of the comments here are just ridiculous.

Spyderco makes a lot of models because they want to innovate and see what the market is interested in. They can't make enough for everyone because they don't know how many the market wants until they've started selling. Like literally every other manufacturing company, they want to keep demand a bit ahead of supply to minimize risk.
 
madcap_magician said:
Some of the comments here are just ridiculous.

Spyderco makes a lot of models because they want to innovate and see what the market is interested in. They can't make enough for everyone because they don't know how many the market wants until they've started selling. Like literally every other manufacturing company, they want to keep demand a bit ahead of supply to minimize risk.
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And bless them for it. Their QC and dedication to experimentation is why I have a rustproof compression lock knife with a full flat grind.

Spyderco is the brand I would back in the great brand wars of 20XX. I would fight and die on that hill. Almost certainly, I would die. I have zero fighting skills.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
BladeScout BladeScout And since you asked what are the blatant production flaws, Ill repeat, exposed blade on the tropen and the Ikuchi stabbing folks when closed. If you find calling those production flaws a problem, you may be a bit biased and defensive. But continue with your case prosecutor :)
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I own both the Tropen and the Ikuchi, have handled/carried both extensively and have not been cut or stabbed by either one.

As noted, both knives were designed to be just the way they are. If handled in a NORMAL way, neither can cut or stab you.

However, if you press your finger DEEPLY into the space adjoining the compression lock on the Tropen and move your finger along the roughly 1/2" of the exposed blade edge there, it would be difficult but you could/might cut yourself on it. The question is WTF would you do that? You could also cut yourself on the tip of the Ikuchi if you pressed your finger DEEPLY in between the liners when the blade is closed but, again, WTF would you do that?

So, I don't think that the possibility of being cut doing these things is the result of a design "flaw" but more likely the result of the negligent handling of the knives by people who do not know how to (or don't bother to) handle a knife safely/properly.

Just my opinion on the matter.
 
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I've gotten lucky a couple times going to my local owned small outdoor center. Went there once on a whim and it turned out to be knife heaven. Got a Sprint run urban LW well below market value and didn't even know until afterward that it was a Sprint run, and online retailers didn't even have them yet. So I'll keep that gem of a store secret. But I don't think it's Spyderco. If it's a limited run then it's a limited run. If you want it bad enough you'll find a way to get it.
 
BenchCo Spydermade said:
Lately it seems all the new and innovative knives they make are in such low supply they are gone the day they are released
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Sounds like (though I haven't experienced it personally) that Spyderco has picked up the disease that GEC seems to cultivate.
P____ on 'em . . . I have about all the knives I'm ever going to buy anyway. There are a couple of old time slip joints I would like to have. Maybe some day I will get so excited I will actually order a custom.

Other than that . . . heck I haven't even looked at the new knives for 2019 or blade show etc. I know they won't have what I want. What I want isn't popular (Popular = rad, bad, tactical or indestructible).
 
Wowbagger said:
Sounds like (though I haven't experienced it personally) that Spyderco has picked up the disease that GEC seems to cultivate.
P____ on 'em . . . I have about all the knives I'm ever going to buy anyway. There are a couple of old time slip joints I would like to have. Maybe some day I will get so excited I will actually order a custom.

Other than that . . . heck I haven't even looked at the new knives for 2019 or blade show etc. I know they won't have what I want. What I want isn't popular (Popular = rad, bad, tactical or indestructible).
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They haven't. Their manufacturing and sales model hasn't changed at all, other than another MAP increase.

Knives that people love sell out. Knives that people don't love are in stock. Same this year as any previous. Those that still haven't sold out by the end of the year will likely be discontinued and new models will take their place... then the OP can complain about those being out of stock too.
 
Idk much about their other knives, but I absolutely love the PM2. I have 2 in S30V steel. I would love to see a regular production run with M4 steel. I personally don’t own any knives with M4, but I’d love to try it out, and it seems to be a favorite among many of the members on this site. Maybe production costs are too high? I have a feeling they wouldn’t have trouble selling them tho, considering what they go for money-wise on fleabay.
 
I tried to buy a Shaman in carbon and S90V. I failed hard.
I got a regular G10 S30V Shaman instead and it was stiff. I Lubed it and exercised
it and it was still too stiff...so I backed off the pivot a tiny amount and...perfect!

The Shaman is an epic blade...sweet. But, I was still disappointed...I wanted less weight.
So I ordered a ZT 0452. And now I am done. Perfect big carry achieved!

My biggest knife is still my Police 4. But the ZT is corrosion resistant and the K390
of the Police 4 is not! And I love the action of the ZT too!

I am still a Spyderco fan...but being unable to get a sprint run opened new vistas
for me! Which is perfectly fine!

Spyderco rocks! I just wish their sprint runs were bigger. I will not buy from scalpers.

EVER.
 
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