What's so special about the Busses?

Looks like Busses are good for a lot of things even turning a thread into an entertaining argument.
 
2dogs said:
Jaxx I think you missed post #75 by Evolute where he stated Jerry told him his knives will withstand 1,100 for an hour. I don't believe Busses or any other knife will live through that kind of heat and retain the proper temper. I would be happy to exchange knives with you and I'll go first. I will not damage your knife in any way because I don't damage my own. I will use it for mundane trail tasks, fire building, and food prep. I'll clean it and keep it oiled ( I live close to the ocean) and return it to you in good shape. If this sounds like something you want to do just post here, I'll be checking in every other day or so. If not, no hard feelings.
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2dogs, I'm in the process of moving into a new residence, but after participating in a passaround, and soon another, I want to pay back by giving some folks in the Busse forum a chance to play with one of my user Busses in a few months. If this is something that you'd like to be a part of, when I'm situated and get it underway, I'd be happy to include you in this. These can be very pricey to some, and a week with even a user Busse would definitely give you a chance to see if it's up your alley or not. I'll probably offer the Combat Grade FBM, but may decide based on a popular vote of a few choices... Maybe something smaller like a Badger Attack TAC as it would probably be better for trail tasks, food prep & such. But, LOL, let's skip the heat test. :D If you have a favorite type of fixed blade, I'd be interested in trying it as well. I love Busse's but am always willing to have my horizons expanded. :thumbup: A lot of words can be thrown around in threads like this one, but more might be learned by letting the knives do the talking, yes? :) Lemme know either on this thread or via my BF.com email addy, and if yes, then I'll reach out when I start the passaround. Like I said it could be a few months, but I'd like to include you. All I ask for in return is an honest review on the passaround thread, and would also like a chance at trying one of your knives that you have found to be worthy of recommending to others. :)

Jaxx
 
Ummm.... I must be missing out then.

I've been checking the Busse/SR/SY Exchange pretty much daily for about two months now and the starting price for a Scrap Yard appears to be around $125 (for a Scrapper 6 or Yard Hook). There are a couple Dumpster Mutts on the Exchange right now for $140 apiece.

Swamp Rats are generally more - around $200 and up. I was looking at a SR Howling Rat LM right now, with a sheath for $235. There's another HR LM w/sheath combo going for $248.

I guess one can find something at the shows for these prices... but I have not personally seen them online for anywhere near that. The most affordable Swamp Rat right now is the Rat Warden for $58. Unfortunately, they are sold out right now.

The asking price at the Scrap Yard store for a DM is $70, indeed it is - but there is nothing there. No DMs, no Yard Guards... Nada.

David E said:
BTW, to get back to a semblance of what this thread was intended, I'd like to point out that the Busse Family of Knives (Scrapyard, Swamprat and Busse) Can or could be found from prices ranging from $70 (Scrapyard Dumpster Mutt) to $128-198 (Swamprat) and $187-$227-$700+ (Busse)

Pick one and buy it !! Then use the snot out of it and be happy you did ! :D

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The hype.

If I were to pussyfoot, 'supply and demand'.

Not my type of knives (designs have superfluous features, their heavy, have a thick grind, expensive and hard to get) but if I did want a sharpened pry bar, I would pick up a Ranger and pocket the rest or spend it on a useful piece of gear like a sleeping bag.

I still have absolutely no clue what people see in this type of knife... Their not really good at anything, chopping and splitting fail in comparison to a decent hatchet/axe, and they way a ton. If I wanting to cut branches a machete wins hands down. And for wood for a fire a folding saw (or other backpacking saw) is the way to go. These 'knives' seems to excel at metal-on-metal and metal-on-concrete type tasks, something for which I don't have a need for... Oh, you can pry and dig with it too... (hence my use of 'hype')
 
Wabajack said:
The hype.

If I were to pussyfoot, 'supply and demand'.

Not my type of knives (designs have superfluous features, their heavy, have a thick grind, expensive and hard to get) but if I did want a sharpened pry bar, I would pick up a Ranger and pocket the rest or spend it on a useful piece of gear like a sleeping bag.

I still have absolutely no clue what people see in this type of knife... Their not really good at anything, chopping and splitting fail in comparison to a decent hatchet/axe, and they way a ton. If I wanting to cut branches a machete wins hands down. And for wood for a fire a folding saw (or other backpacking saw) is the way to go. These 'knives' seems to excel at metal-on-metal and metal-on-concrete type tasks, something for which I don't have a need for... Oh, you can pry and dig with it too... (hence my use of 'hype')
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My experience is 100% different than yours. I carry one tool that does it all.

Skam
 
Buffalohump said:
Ummm.... I must be missing out then.
I guess one can find something at the shows for these prices... but I have not personally seen them online for anywhere near that. The most affordable Swamp Rat right now is the Rat Warden for $58. Unfortunately, they are sold out right now.

The asking price at the Scrap Yard store for a DM is $70, indeed it is - but there is nothing there. No DMs, no Yard Guards... Nada.
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Yes, availability sucks. No argument. FWIW, I bought two DM's.....didn't like them and sold them fairly fast. I would not personally pay $140 for one.

I recently bought two Yard Guards from two different sellers on Flee-bay for less than the $139 retail, so it can be done. (I then had to sell them to fund another purchase, almost breaking even on the YG's)

Best bet is the Swamprat Uncle Mojo @ $198........it IS available now and a very good choice for an all around knife.

Otherwise, if one wants a Busse family knife, just pay attention to their sites and watch for upcoming announcements, etc. Busse will shortly list their Anniversary Knife 1 on their site as being available to order. That, too, is an excellent all-arounder. Cost has not yet been announced, but I suspect (and I have no inside info on this) that it'll retail for around $287 in standard grade.

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skammer said:
My experience is 100% different than yours. I carry one tool that does it all.
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How long do your backpacking/camping trips last? Big knives as a only tool loose their novelty after a few days, they suck at food prep and small cutting chores and aren't that effective for chopping or splitting... and their heavy. Sure it will do it all, but at a mediocre level (So will a Mora, SAK or good hatchet BTW)
 
skammer said:
My experience is 100% different than yours. I carry one tool that does it all.

Skam
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Come on though. No knife splits as well as an axe, not even a khukuri. No heavy bladed knife removes brush and small branches as easily as a machete.

Your one tool does it all, but its not perfectly suited for every task.
 
Sounds like you guys know all there is to know about Busse knives then.:rolleyes: It seems ludicrous that I keep reading about Busse knives can't this and can't that. They're just a sharpened prybar and so on. Why don't you get some experience with something before you talk crap.
I hike, camp, skin, cook, whittle, etc. with mine. It seems that if someone else isn't able to do this, maybe they are limited and not the knife.
 
mymindisamob said:
Sounds like you guys know all there is to know about Busse knives then.:rolleyes: It seems ludicrous that I keep reading about Busse knives can't this and can't that. They're just a sharpened prybar and so on. Why don't you get some experience with something before you talk crap.
I hike, camp, skin, cook, whittle, etc. with mine. It seems that if someone else isn't able to do this, maybe they are limited and not the knife.
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well thats a little on the harsh side, i agree with most of what you said. someone can specilize with one knife if you truly trust that knife not to fail you....... i don't own a busse YET it's in the works but i feel that batoning is faster and easyer than a saw. as for spliting have you ever try to hike with a axe :barf: talk about losing novelty. i mainly carry a hossom fb16 and it is my all around knife granted there are some task my mora is better at, and if weren't for fear of breakage my hossom would be the only one that i carry but hence like most of us here im a knife nut and carry about 8 knives or so just to play with and try out. the big trick is to find a knife you trust and master it. and let's play nice we don't learn buy stomping on each other. all knives a great as long as you use them as intend by the maker
 
mymindisamob said:
Sounds like you guys know all there is to know about Busse knives then.:rolleyes: It seems ludicrous that I keep reading about Busse knives can't this and can't that. They're just a sharpened prybar and so on. Why don't you get some experience with something before you talk crap.
I hike, camp, skin, cook, whittle, etc. with mine. It seems that if someone else isn't able to do this, maybe they are limited and not the knife.
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Yes yes. It is the perfect knife. No deficiencies. Can't be beat at any task. You are right every time on every point. :rolleyes::thumbdn:
 
Not trying to stomp anyone. I think everyone needs to find "that" blade for themselves. But let's face it. Many of the "Con" comments seem to be based on perception more than actual experience.
If you are going to choose any blade, I hope it's based on something other than nay saying and inability to trust your own senses. I can't stand Moras, but I don't shoot down others choosing them. I personally think they are as cliquish of a blade as anything else. I've used a few, and I don't like them. No dig on anyone else choosing them. As far as Busse being overpriced, I'm poor as the next guy, and I choose to spend my funds on what I choose. If I don't see why something is expensive, I ask, then decide without bashing.
 
Thats cool. I have nothing against Busse's. They're not my style, but they feel great in the hand, and are obviously well made.
 
Fiddleback said:
Yes yes. It is the perfect knife. No deficiencies. Can't be beat at any task. You are right every time on every point. :rolleyes::thumbdn:
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The same can be said of the Nessmuk phenomenon.

Same fan club around the Mora, and Scandi's in general.

The "knife, axe, saw" club.

The cliq in the HI forum is very tight and clannish, and for a while was VERY jumpy, dogpiles were a daily affair.

Ever ask a dumb question in the OSF? Interesting results.

Theres more, but I am trying to make a point, from my point of view some places I visit regularly are very opinionated and rather harsh on points that are out of the realm that encompasses that community. Seeing it from an "outsiders" pov, it gets nasty sometimes.
 
true true it's not cool to bash anyones loved one I.E. there knives thats one thing i don't under stand is is why someone would sour grapes or trash talk somthing they know nothing about. i feel that busse is over priced but the pepole at the busse forum seem to be very freindly from what i've read over there . i my self need to try a busse just to see what there all about. for the most part the owners all swear buy them. i like to do hard use chores with my knives batoning ect. dosn't the busse warrenty make you rest a little easyer know if you should break it the arm and a leg you lost to get it will be returned. i've not broke any of my mora's or spydercos as i said before it takes technique and pratice to use a knife right.
 
Why is everybody getting so upset. It's all a matter of opinion. It's like the Ford guy and the Chevy guy. The Glock guy and the Sig guy. The boob guy and the butt guy. I would like to try a Busse but 1-don't know of anyone near me that owns one. 2-I don't want to shell out that kinda money for one( the most I ever spent was 150. and that was for a big blade-RD9-and I thought that was way too much). 3-and if I did have one I think I would be too scared to use it due to the cost(I've only had my RD9 out once) I like the lower cost knives to beat up. I beat them hard -shy of chopping a brick in half- and have yet to have anything happen to them. The busse line of knives are pritty, hell I would own one just for the looks if I could. As for the hype... until I can hold and use one I will never know. That being said if anyone wants to GIVE me one...just PM me and I'll send you my address.
 
Fiddleback said:
Yes yes. It is the perfect knife. No deficiencies. Can't be beat at any task. You are right every time on every point. :rolleyes::thumbdn:
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That is not the point. There is more than one design. Basing an opinion on these knives overall, on a few common features does not decidedly make it so for every knife. You make more than one style of blade right?
Not once have I claimed any of my choices of knives to be the best, or for everyone. But informing me that Busse knives are limited for anyones use based on your experience is not conducive to friendly conversation.
 
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