What's your latest Schrade? END DATE 8/12

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must like these kind of knives. just got this one for a very nice price. A Schrade Walden 163. with a little love should make a very nice addition.
 

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As in the past, my latest Schrade is a Imperial Frontier. This one is a P-II, special 45 year MAC knife with serial number 02165.

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was sold as pre 1956 with ram handles(whatever that is).
Beautiful grafting knife i think the scales are Ivory plastic (delrin)
interestingly one side is aged more than the other.
was blunt is now sharp.
i like it.
 
Dupont Delrin is post 1960 and correct on the stamp being post 1972. A very nice knife though.
 
just got this in, looks like a 15 OT but has not marking on tang to indicate what type or manufacturer? does have an etch on the blade midway "Schrade U.S.A.". any idea on what year it was made. the knife tells me it is genuine Scharde but have never seen one without any stamping.
 

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delmas2nd said:
just got this in, looks like a 15 OT but has not marking on tang to indicate what type or manufacturer? does have an etch on the blade midway "Schrade U.S.A.". any idea on what year it was made. the knife tells me it is genuine Scharde but have never seen one without any stamping.
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As I mentioned in another thread today, there are many variations on stamps, particularly on SFOs. Perhaps your knife was made for an SFO run and was an overstock, etched with the Schrade mark to send out as a warranty replacement. Some of these 15OT knives (and other patterns) were only identified with etches, long since worn off (regular production of this pattern had a fairly datable progression of tang stamps). I can only guess at the production period, but if the sheath is original to the knife, it would likely date after the really early years of the pattern. But not new enough to have the later full sewn sheath without rivets. No one, to my knowledge, copied the pattern (it had a design patent) during the existance of Schrade (pre-2004), so it is most likely genuine. Not much help, I know.
 
Meako, If you just purchased your 175 Florists knife recently on Ebay Australia, I actually advised that seller that it was not pre 1956 and indeed had to be post 1972...he did actually add my information to the bottom of his listing however a number of bids had already been placed...I feel he made an honest mistake...I rarely contact Australian Ebay sellers now when I see their intentional blatant attempts to make a knife out to be what it is not..however Schrade+ and pre 1956 stood out like dogs dates so I advised him...recently I saw a GDOT Grand Dads Old Timer Sharpfinger selling as original 1975 and its blade tang stamp was about 20 years younger than the handle and seller then changed his listing after I advised, just didnt know another honest mistake..
Yours is a great knife in either case....I have a Schrade 1990 Catalog which shows your knife as 175 Florist knife Schrade+ Steel $19.95. so yours is post 1972 through to at least 1990....Hoo Roo
 
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The rivets look the same on either side. I think the difference in the scales is slight-like it may have lain on one side on a shelf for a while.I'd say its a factory original. Thanks for all that good info you guys .much appreciated
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If so, they did an excellent job on the spun rivets. Unless they are peened on the other side.
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thanks Larry. I wasn't taken in by the description either.I think the plus stamp means stainless & it had a very poor edge.That has been remedied.
cheers
 
the one a couple of pages back looks the same as my one except mines got 3 pins-is that pic the actual knife?
years ago my girlfriend who was a horticulturist had a budding & grafting knife
which became my benchmark for sharpness.
 
Speaking of 15OT's, here's a VERY early one that I recently snagged. Has the etched Pat. Pend. instead of stamped:

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ea42 said:
Speaking of 15OT's, here's a VERY early one that I recently snagged. Has the etched Pat. Pend. instead of stamped...
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Nice one! I have one of those also. Does your sheath still have the aluminum and fiberboard sheath protector inside? The laced sheaths often had the laces cut by the blade when the protector was removed or lost. Thus the soon change to the riveted sheaths with a gusset layer.

The choil retaining strap was commonly cut as well when the blade was inserted and withdrawn from the sheath. Those changed soon as well to the handle retaining strap (why they tried it again ten years later on the Sharp Finger, I'll never understand).

And of course the waffle-impressed sheath "leather" wasn't very durable, being leather fiber composition, not true split cowhide. Those three flaws in the earliest sheaths make the surviving few in good condition quite scarce. And as for the etched blade, we can only suppose that was a stop-gap measure used so that the knives could be sold (mostly to Sears at first) before the Pat. Pend. tang stamp was made. Lack of a serial number on these earliest examples also bolsters my confidence that they were the earliest production, as with the Pat. Pend. stamping we begin to see serialization on them.

Nice acquisition! Did it come with the bling?
 
j man said:
My New old stock USA made Old Timer.
Mod. Bruin EXT 550TG
Stainless steel..44A???????
Chisel grind
Brass line locker.
One hand opener.
Green handle
Not a classic But still, its made in the USA & its a Schrade:)
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Hi J man, I have some 35OTG Schrade knives. Same as your 55OTG, just not as big. The 35OTG is quite a hard Schrade to find... Ken
 
Michael, has the aluminum but the fiberboard has parted ways. Did you notice on these earlier examples that the tang is colored but the covers aren't finished quite flush. The shield on this one also appears different; the letters are a solid line rather than the double outline. I'll have to snap some pics of my other examples to show the difference. Did you know that there was actually an earlier sheath? it was purple (I kid you not!) with white lacing!

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Yep. The covers along the spine and on the butt weren't buffed flush, leaving the "bone" colored areas as they were later on. It seems they were attached as molded without further fitment. An some of them the shield inleting was rougher/deeper than later production as well. I thought I remembered a difference in the typestyle on the shielding stamps, but until you mentioned it, I had forgotten what it was. I do remember the white lacing. But I guess I remember it from ad cuts which were mostly black and white. Purple though? One hopes that was a defective brown dye that changed as it aged, not a design decision by Henry!

We also should note that at this point, the 15OT had not been given it's association with James Fenimore Cooper's Leatherstocking tales, "Deerslayer", but was simply called "Hunter".

We know that Henry Baer applied for the design patent on this pattern on August 7th, 1964 and it issued on November 9th of 1965. Records show that 5,346 of the Schrade Walden knives, and 836 of the Sears #10600 were shipped in 1964, before the patent issued. 6,244 of the SW shipped in 1965 along with 2,552 of the #10600 Sears knives. Of this 1965 shipment it is unknown how many bore the “PAT. PEND” etch. and how many had it stamped and bore serials. We do see however that examples of the Sears SFO of these early production knives is less common, albeit the only differences were the Ted Williams etch and the box they were sold in.

Your original photos of your knife with the waffle sheath still exist in the archives somewhere. If I run across them I'll add them here.

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Micheal and Eric, thanks for the info. I want to see the purple sheath.

I didn't realize some of the early sheaths were reconstituted leather either. I hate those! When did they switch to real leather and what did the first real leather sheaths look like?
 
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