What's your latest Schrade? END DATE 8/12

Ballenxj · Oct 20, 2011

tongueriver said:
Actually, it is just as likely to be a Camillus.

Really? That's OK, I'll take that too. Is there any way to be certain?
-Bruce

koldgold · Oct 21, 2011

thawk said:
Or a Schrade with a blade made by Camillus... or it could be an Ulster. Schrades usually have a glazed finish on the blades.

Hi thawk, the blade on the second knife looks like the Buck 301 made by Schrade.
I have some John Primbel,Camillus and Buck knives made by Schrade...
The S.C.C. 886UH also has a blade like that, I belive all of these knives were made pre. 1973 ?...Ken

Codger_64 · Oct 21, 2011

Camillus did not make knives with the Swinden bolsters.

edbeau · Oct 21, 2011

I can be found in three areas on this forum, Camillus, Schrade and Buck. I can say that Schrade only made the early Buck 301 it was made later by Camillus as most of the Buck 300 series folding knives. As Codger_64 said the bolsters are where you can tell the manufacturer.

koldgold · Oct 21, 2011

edbeau said:
I can be found in three areas on this forum, Camillus, Schrade and Buck. I can say that Schrade only made the early Buck 301 it was made later by Camillus as most of the Buck 300 series folding knives. As Codger_64 said the bolsters are where you can tell the manufacturer.

I have been using this forum for some years now, however I have not worked out, how to up-load.
I have all of the knives I list above - As they have a place in my Schrade Collection. These are some of my knives.
I think it is a Camillus Blade, it looks like the blade used in the Buck 301 made by Camillus...Ken

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4824
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4825
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4826
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4827
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4195

Dave Thinkstoomuch · Oct 21, 2011

Codger_64 said:
Camillus did not make knives with the Swinden bolsters.

Nice! A hard and fast rule for a change in Baer world. I will keep this in mind from now on. Thanks for spelling it out Michael.

koldgold said:
I have been using this forum for some years, however I have not worked out how to up-load.
I have all of the knives I list above... Ken
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4824
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4825
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/knife_forum/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=131&image_id=4826

Thanks for posting the examples Ken. The pins/bolsters do indeed tell the tale.

edbeau · Oct 21, 2011

If you can see the pivot pins the knife is made by Camillus. Sometimes it is hard to see the pin because of the nickle silver bolsters. No pivot pins it is a Schrade made Buck. Koldgold, some of your knives are mis-identified.

Ballenxj · Oct 21, 2011

Codger_64 said:
Camillus did not make knives with the Swinden bolsters.

How do I spot a Swinden Bolster? Sorry if that's a dumb question.

-Bruce

Codger_64 · Oct 21, 2011

http://www.collectors-of-schrades-r.us/patents/002977678.pdf

edbeau · Oct 21, 2011

Here is some more information that may clear it up. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ns-but-were-afraid-to-ask.?highlight=300Bucks

Dave Thinkstoomuch · Oct 21, 2011

Ballenxj said:
How do I spot a Swinden Bolster? Sorry if that's a dumb question.
-Bruce

...only the one not asked

Basically if the bolster completely covers the pins then it's Swindon construction if you can see the pins it's not.

If you compare the 804s a few of us posted recently in this thread you may notice what was immediately evident to me: the Schrade 85th Anniversary has clearly visible pins whereas the other ones utilize the swindon key to hide the pins. Wonder why they switched? Though I know I will never get an answer to that. Just a call that was made a long time ago.

Here's a good link to a thread that has good pics of the internal construction to match the blue-prints codger kindly supplied us with.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/489224-Old-Timer-Without-Swinden-Key

koldgold · Oct 22, 2011

edbeau said:
If you can see the pivot pins the knife is made by Camillus. Sometimes it is hard to see the pin because of the nickle silver bolsters. No pivot pins it is a Schrade made Buck. Koldgold, some of your knives are mis-identified.

Please let me know if you think some of my knives are mis-identified. That is the only way we can all learn from our mis-takes.
A Buck collector once told me, if you breathe on a nickle bolster you can see the pin - if it has one...Ken

thawk · Oct 22, 2011

koldgold said:
Hi thawk, the blade on the second knife looks like the Buck 301 made by Schrade.
I have some John Primbel,Camillus and Buck knives made by Schrade...
The S.C.C. 886UH also has a blade like that, I belive all of these knives were made pre. 1973 ?...Ken

Well, the one on the left is pre 73 with the Walden mark, but the one on the right, with what I call a "Camillus or Ulster swedge" is probably late 1970's. I've seen the 272 with a Schrade NY USA stamp too, which is is just after 1973. There are so many of the "Baer owned company knives" that shared the same frame size, there are interchangeable parts on knives that are very similar. I never have any proof, just anal observation tendencies.

edbeau · Oct 22, 2011

Have to admit I didn't read the bottom of the pictures only the upper left picture. I think you may be correct but the lines are blurred as thawk said. Here is another link to help in the quest.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...eries-History-1966-to-1990?highlight=camillus

thawk · Oct 22, 2011

Here is my latest Schrade, a custom LB5. It came from the same seller as Dave's 707UH. It was advertised as Staglon, but I suspected it was nicer than pictured. I added the sheath to the pics. Seems like a good match.

The rivets are not spun, making me think after market, but it is well done.

edbeau · Oct 22, 2011

Looks like a lot of work went into that knife and it came out very well. The sheath is a beauty.

Ballenxj · Oct 22, 2011

Codger_64 said:
Camillus did not make knives with the Swinden bolsters.

Then I still think it's a SCHRADE.

-Bruce

BTW, The knife was in much better shape than depicted by his photos, and while we're at it, please forgive mine. New PC and new photo programs that I'm not acquainted with yet.

-Bruce

rprocter · Oct 23, 2011

Hal, your LB5 looks similar to knives customized by Dale (Orvet). Good score for sure.
roland

sappyg · Oct 29, 2011

I've used the search function on this one and found very little. In fact, I think I have confused myself which is not difficult to do.
The tang on the clip is marked SCHRADE over WALDEN over N.Y. USA on the mark side and 834 on the pile side. The shield is stamped SHRADE. The only reference I have found show a different knife and the only pattern numbers I've found so far indicate 834UH (assumed Uncle Henry). It has Delrin handles and is 3 1/4"- 3/8" closed and is exceptionally well made.

thawk · Oct 29, 2011

Schrade Walden stamps like this indicate it was made pre-1973. The SCHRADE engraved shield is a little odd, as they also had SCHRADE WALDEN engraved shields that were used before 1973. Probably this one was made right around the time the name change included dropping Walden from the name. I've seen a few marked like this before. Nice looking knife your 834 is, and it comes from a time when that 1095 carbon steel was at its best. These jigged delrin "Open Stock" knives were made from the late 1950's into the early 1980's. Before that, they were jigged bone. The pattern itself dates back to the 1920's as the 8343 number.