What's your latest Schrade? END DATE 8/12

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Here's a really nice older Schrade/Walden 34OT with a Craftsman 9513 etch and "34OT" on the pile side tang. I don't think i've seen one marked this way before.

any comments Codger ?
roland
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I'm no Codger, but I've a few Schrade Walden Open Stocks with Schrade Walden tang stamp and Craftsman shields. None though with Craftsman etched pattern numbers and a Schrade Walden stamp though. That sure is nice unsharpened example. Another version might say "Old Crafty" on the shield too. However, Michael's example like that is a 9546, and yours here is a 9513. :confused: Is yours sporting a pen blade instead of a spey?

I like that duck shield on that DU knife too.
 
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I managed to pick up a # 787, improved muskrat yesterday at an estate sale. Although research says bone handles, they look like Delrin to me. Nice knife regardless.
 
The mailman pulled through this morning. A pair of Old Timers with 3 line stamps. They make a nice pair. I'll grade these two "near mint". They did come with the white dust covers as well. The 34OT has the nice reddish corner tint on the covers.

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Russell, if you see these examples, they pass the "choil test" with flying colors. Even the spey blade on the 34OT, though the "c shaped notch" is hidden from view, due to camera angle. I was glad they were listed as a pair, with picture and description errors. Another sellers "No No" that often benefits the buyer.
 
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Very nice, 'complete', examples Hal.
What is the "choil test" ? hope i don't have to give this "test" to every one of my Schrades !
roland
 
I was at a hardware store today and saw a Schrade display with a couple of delrin stag stockmans and ta trapper with a USA stamp.The large stockman about 40 bucks. Should I be going back there?
 
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I was at a hardware store today and saw a Schrade display with a couple of delrin stag stockmans and ta trapper with a USA stamp.The large stockman about 40 bucks. Should I be going back there?
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If it is an 885UH, only if it is an old Brown Box example, IMHO. It might be an opportunity to try "Lets make a Deal" for the lot. They have been in the case for a while. I'd be interested in the "TA" trapper, but not sure what "TA" is.
 
well at least for me. it is always nice to leave money on the table at our fav or not so fav auction. this one i got for less than my max.
 

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Well, maybe I did good or maybe I didn't. I picked this one up last weekend on the bay and it had pretty crummy pictures. I was able to tell that the scales were not sawcut delrin and took a chance that it may have been bone. It isn't bone, but I'm not sure what it is. Any one have any ideas? It has gaps near the bolsters that are uniform in size and occur on both sides. It wouldn't be a celluloid would it? In any case, for $25 it's a keeper! Thanks in advance for the help!

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Man, now you've done it. Could you show us the link and see what you saw that everyone else missed? It does not look like delrin, that's for sure. Nicely done for sure!
 
Wow! Case and point on the value of taking decent pictures if you are selling something, but pretty obvious there was a slight case of oblivious seller. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup: So Calvin, are you thinking these are something besides bone or delrin?
 
I looked it over in the light and mine has the "gold dust" in it as well. It would be kinda cool to have found something almost as elusive as the coveted bone 8OT!

Chuck
 
It sure looks like early Delrin (or similar plastic) to me. Given the early appearance of these knives, and the only slightly earlier 8OT in smooth bone (1959), it makes sense that they tried their first shots of Delrin in smooth material, and possibly either the first mold was too short and later adjusted for length, or the Delrin molding process hadn't been perfected. We know that the factory in Parkersburg, W.V. didn't begin operation until 1960, but Dupont probably had sample quantities of the early material on hand before the factory came on line for full production. My investigations show that SW/Ulster was one of, if not THE first cutlery to make use of Delrin for knife handles.

So... guesses?
1. Purposely molded short to attempt to avoid the trim step
2. Material molded at incorrect temp or pressure to assure density/stability
3. Molded long and mistrimmed by earliest trim dies.

Comparing the wood grain paper covered box these came in to the first "redwood" boxes on the bone knives, it is pretty apparent that they weren't produced far apart timewise, IMHO.

ETA: supposition based on known facts? That make sense?
 
How does that material compare in "feel" to delrin? The earlier "Bonite" that Ulster used was harder and more brittle.
 
Mine feels and looks just like Delrin. There is absolutely zero shrinkage away from brass liners, at the top, or at the bottom (near the springs), or "away" from the surface of the liners. But a significant gap at the bolsters. I think the handles were "loaded" into the knife "short."
 
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