Wheeler Fighting Bowie Project :) ( UPDATED CUTTING & FORGING VIDEOS)

Just watch the video and wanted to say thanks again Joe for your “real world” feedback and design tips. Very important to a knifemaker like me. :thumbup:
 
Part 1 of 2 (still working on #2, these things take a lot longer than you'd think :foot:) following the heat treating process for this project... :)

[video=youtube;o1zcdSowErA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1zcdSowErA[/video]
 
If the lucky few that got these are not getting excited yet .............. Something is wrong :)

Great stuff Nick
 
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Patrice Lemée;13471996 said:
Just watch the video and wanted to say thanks again Joe for your “real world” feedback and design tips. Very important to a knifemaker like me. :thumbup:
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Thanks Pat

I do not know how real world it is other than trying to use a constant medium to get some kind of real world feedback into how the knife tracks and performs

A rolled up sheet of news print free standing can tell you volumes about your edge geometry and form :)
 
JParanee said:
I do not know how real world it is other than trying to use a constant medium to get some kind of real world feedback into how the knife tracks and performs

A rolled up sheet of news print free standing can tell you volumes about your edge geometry and form :)
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Well a lot more real than my previous source of knowledge on knife fighting which is basically Crocodile Dundee. ;)

I'll have to give the newspaper thing a try, thanks.

Great videos by the way Nick, following the series avidly. :thumbup:
 
I had no idea what you went through with your heat treat....

Most state 2 or 3 x's normalizing....an amazing amount of work you've done and haven't even begun to grind!

Neat trick with the washers....I know a friend of mine had a salt rig, put his blade in a pair of vise grips and accidentally touched them in the salt....the jaws curled back and that blade is STILL in the bottom of that tube, or what would be left of it.
 
JParanee said:
If the lucky few that got these are not getting excited yet .............. Something is wrong :)

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Nah, everyone is just sitting with their mouth hanging open and unable to talk. ;)

Nineteen pages (so far), yeah, there's plenty of excitement!
 
There's nothin' wrong with me here! I am very excited about this! I had to think for a few moments this morning when I saw the temp cycling before grinding. Makes sense now. I haven't forged 52100 yet, and have cycled AFTER grinding. BTW, 52100 is incredible steel :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:. Its well worth the effort to heat treat properly.
 
NickWheeler said:
Part 1 of 2 (still working on #2, these things take a lot longer than you'd think :foot:) following the heat treating process for this project... :)

[video=youtube;o1zcdSowErA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1zcdSowErA[/video]
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Nick, I get it. It takes about 1h of editing for every minute of finished video. Its the little things like normalizing the audio, fading the background sound in and out, timing the transitions, titling etc. It all adds up. I really appreciate the time you take to do these videos. I was watching one of your older videos as a friend was asking for tips on hand sanding, and noticed the improvement in both video and audio with the newer camera. Its quite the step up. The editing continues to improve an evolve. If I can offer another video suggestion, look up "rule of thirds." Its about framing shots to accentuate focus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_thirds
 
Patrice Lemée;13473109 said:
Well a lot more real than my previous source of knowledge on knife fighting which is basically Crocodile Dundee. ;)

I'll have to give the newspaper thing a try, thanks.

Great videos by the way Nick, following the series avidly. :thumbup:
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Patrick

Here is a video that I had to cut out of the full length one because of length

I had no news papers but I did have some cardboard tubes from gift wrapping paper

Great for learning angles and targeting

Strive for 45 degree angles

Reason being any shallower angle and its easy to cup the cut

If you notice I do not have an over exaggerated swing that leaves me exposed

[video=youtube_share;48R6K2dO83Q]http://youtu.be/48R6K2dO83Q[/video]

Thanks everyone else
 
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Dudley- Thank you my friend! :)

I used to drill a hole for the wire, but the washer is faster. And it actually works better, because salt can solidify in a small hole and essentially lock the wire in place... which can make the blade hang off to one side instead of hanging plumb. Then you get warping... bad warping. :grumpy:

I should point out that in that one shot of the hot blade in the dark, that was actually the first blade though, and I realized the salt level was low. So I replenished it, and that left the blades/tangs fully submerged in the salt. The little bit of tang sticking out of the salt is excess that will be cut off.


BTW- Just about the only way to get something back that gets dropped in the salt is to lay the ROOM TEMP salt vessel outside with a garden hose running into it. That will erode the salt out of the tube. But ya gotta have more salt. ;) :D



Warren- Thank you! :) I'm learning with these... I think the hardest aspect of these for me (and I know you can get this!) is how tough it is trying to make sure I explain enough of what I want to convey, without talking for an hour. All but one or two of them are still "too long :foot:" but I did my best to cut them down.

Your recommendation for the Premiere 12 was great for me, as it has been quite cooperative. ;) :D



Joe- Love that new video, thanks brother! :) :cool:
 
NickWheeler said:
I used to drill a hole for the wire, but the washer is faster. And it actually works better, because salt can solidify in a small hole and essentially lock the wire in place... which can make the blade hang off to one side instead of hanging plumb. Then you get warping... bad warping.

I should point out that in that one shot of the hot blade in the dark, that was actually the first blade though, and I realized the salt level was low. So I replenished it, and that left the blades/tangs fully submerged in the salt. The little bit of tang sticking out of the salt is excess that will be cut off.
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I see you're using lock washers, is there any special reason, or you just wrung what you brung ?


I'm assuming that they are black unplated because a zinc plating would contaminate the salt ?


does any old MIG wire work without cracking preheat or post heat ?
 
Hi guys- sorry for the lull...



It's been really crazy around here lately, so I just haven't had a chance to keep up on the videos just yet. I will get things up to speed on here when I get a chance though! :)


Sam- I got the box of washers from a family member for $0.00 and, like you asked, they're just black iron--- so no worries with welding or salt contamination. On big blades like these, I tack the washers closed so they can't open up with the weight of the blade pulling down.

I have also bent 1/8" welding rod into loops for the same thing, but the washers are obviously a lot faster.

With a simple, low amp tack (standard 0.035 wire with 75/25 shielding gas) on both sides of the washer, I have never had any issues doing it cold. The tangs on these are all at least an inch too long, so that all gets cut off anyway.



Thanks for following along with this guys!!! It takes a lot of extra work, but I enjoy doing it. :)
 
I've got a lot more of this stuff to edit together, but here's one of the updates... :)

Thanks guys! :)

[video=youtube;3EiuTsTZgtE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EiuTsTZgtE[/video]
 
Another great video Nick. Such an education for anyone interested. I appreciate every minute of it. So, did I get this right? The secret is to make sure there are some chicken atoms trapped in the matrix when going from austenite to martensite? Thanks again Nick. Mike
 
I didn't realize we get a family secret recipe chicken breast with each knife! :thumbup::thumbup::D
 
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